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Originally Posted by CryingFreemancoa
Harnessing Hip-hop to teach kids to me is such a bad idea
Originally Posted by kickstart
Originally Posted by CryingFreemancoa
Harnessing Hip-hop to teach kids to me is such a bad idea
Why do you say that?
Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican
First thing I would tell those kids if that those artists are ENTERTAINERS. View them as actors/cartoon characters. Not as real people. Don't try to be like them.
i agreeOriginally Posted by nawlinsjunkie
Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican
First thing I would tell those kids if that those artists are ENTERTAINERS. View them as actors/cartoon characters. Not as real people. Don't try to be like them.
Exactly. I don't want my kids "learning" from semi-illiterate musicians with half @#$ "knowledge"Watching Boyz in The Hood>>>>>>>>>listening to NWA's "social commentary about the streets"(Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy their music) Besides, most "Educational" hip hop songs just talk about all black people being descendants of Egyptian scholars and engineers
Originally Posted by ElCatfisho
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Dont know what kind of music you're listening to, but what i listen to does the exact opposite.Originally Posted by CryingFreemancoa
Originally Posted by kickstart
Originally Posted by CryingFreemancoa
Harnessing Hip-hop to teach kids to me is such a bad idea
Why do you say that?
Because much of Hip-Hop is fiction and does nothing but promote ignorance and a lack of critical thinking
Originally Posted by KanyeWestJayZ4life
Dont know what kind of music you're listening to, but what i listen to does the exact opposite.Originally Posted by CryingFreemancoa
Originally Posted by kickstart
Why do you say that?
Because much of Hip-Hop is fiction and does nothing but promote ignorance and a lack of critical thinking
Its a new way to teach and students are reacting to it well.
Oh YoU MaD wrote:
First time hearing and listening to this. Thanks for postingElCatfisho wrote:
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We need more music like this
...and we wonder whats wrong with hiphop?
Originally Posted by KanyeWestJayZ4life
Dont know what kind of music you're listening to, but what i listen to does the exact opposite.�Originally Posted by CryingFreemancoa
Originally Posted by kickstart
Why do you say that?
Because much of Hip-Hop is fiction and does nothing but promote ignorance and a lack of critical thinking
Its a new way to teach and students are reacting to it well.�
......yeah, its comments like these that say so much about those that make them.
...its like me saying movies is mostly all sex and violence, when there's a WIDE RANGE of films from one spectrum to the other. its all about what you choose to watch. and spare me with the 'most popular' argument. its popular because people dont support the alternative, the same people accusing hiphop of being mostly about money, *++@, and clothes,�be the same ones bumping Waka and company.
Originally Posted by Brolic Scholar
When I saw this thread I instantly thought of this...
and one word; corny.
It could work as a way for kids to memorize things, but in order for that to work, it would have to be done by someone with enough clout for the kids to listen to. I could see kids spitting lyrics to recall an answer to a test question, but outside of that, how far do the same kids have to take it? I think this is an attempt to dumb down learning and assumes that "certain kids" can't learn the same way everyone else does.
The problem is that in the "real world" no one is going to rap the answer to you on your job or when tackling a complex problem. You may have to crack open a boring book or attend a boring training session and actually take in, analyze and apply what you've learned from standard methods.
Originally Posted by Deuce King
It sounds like a very good teaching tool or an option.
A Concerned Educator:
the untapped potential for integrating rap into the classroom is infinite.
no, not have a corny white math teacher rap math facts
but to define onomonopia, then use an example from RAP?
to define enjambment then use an example from RAP?
rap is no less literature than shakespeare sonnets
alot of close minded thinking
hence why our children continue to fail in a system not designed for their success.
i also think black kids should have ESL services accesable to them.
if a mexican kid can get 2 other tutors and a separate classroom with 2 dedicated teachers because she only hears spanish in her house and no english
certainly, if you expect black children to identify and employ STANDARD ENGLISH (as opposed to the dialect they learn culturally) then they should have the same access to ESL programs as africans, hispanics and asians.
Originally Posted by LDJ
Originally Posted by LDJ
Originally Posted by Brolic Scholar
When I saw this thread I instantly thought of this...
and one word; corny.
It could work as a way for kids to memorize things, but in order for that to work, it would have to be done by someone with enough clout for the kids to listen to. I could see kids spitting lyrics to recall an answer to a test question, but outside of that, how far do the same kids have to take it? I think this is an attempt to dumb down learning and assumes that "certain kids" can't learn the same way everyone else does.
The problem is that in the "real world" no one is going to rap the answer to you on your job or when tackling a complex problem. You may have to crack open a boring book or attend a boring training session and actually take in, analyze and apply what you've learned from standard methods.
I think that could possibly work. But making songs about dinosaurs, element chart, shakespeare etc... will just be just as pointless as it is children learning it in the traditional methods used today.
Originally Posted by seasoned vet
@ people still taking "Harnessing Hip-Hop to teach students" in the literal sense. (too the BOTH of you)
pointless? yep.
corny? sure.
....thats why thats NOT what they're talking about.
Originally Posted by Brolic Scholar
Originally Posted by seasoned vet
@ people still taking "Harnessing Hip-Hop to teach students" in the literal sense. (too the BOTH of you)
pointless? yep.
corny? sure.
....thats why thats NOT what they're talking about.
Word?
So instead of explaining it, you're trying to get your shine on with the rolling laugh? Go head and harness a dictionary my man.
no, not have a corny white math teacher rap math facts
but to define onomonopia, then use an example from RAP?
to define enjambment then use an example from RAP?
rap is no less literature than shakespeare sonnets
^ This. And I know I'm going to offend someone by saying this, but I don't care. I particularly dislike this option of using Hip Hop as a teaching tool when White teachers think it's cool to do it while teaching in inner city schools. I find it to be ignorant, disrespectful, and culturally insensitive. How can you assume that is the only way inner city kids can learn effectively. It may seem fun/creative, but it comes off as racist in my opinion. I've seen it done a few times.Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican
First thing I would tell those kids if that those artists are ENTERTAINERS. View them as actors/cartoon characters. Not as real people. Don't try to be like them.