GSWARRIORS THREAD VOL. ANDDD AGAINNNN NBA CHAMPIONS

[dland24]

 

 

I agree, it's another reason why this doesn't hurt as much to me as I thought it would. The story of this Warriors team isn't just this season - it's probably the next 3-5 years as long as the Warriors have Curry/Klay/Draymond in their primes. How they respond to adversity is probably just as important, if not more so, in how this goes. Looking forward to next season already, but I'm glad we finally get a break from all this at the same time.


I'm hoping Warriors go 2013-2014 Spurs next season, get the rematch against LeBron in the Finals, and win.

So basically you dont feel this hurts so much because you are assuming we are going to be right back in contention again next season.  That is fine, you are certainly entitled to think that.  However, I dont see how that assumption changes what happened this season.  And what happened this season is that we were 60 minutes away from back to back titles, and we blew it.  Blew it three times.  

That hurts.  I am shocked that some of you are in the place you are in today.  This is easily the biggest sports disappointment of my lifetime.  Nothing is even close really.

Yeah I totally see where you're coming from. I guess I looked the series from a different perspective...as I watched the games, it felt like it was LeBron/Kyrie taking their games to a different level and snatching the series from the Warriors rather than the Warriors choking the games away. So the Cavs won rather than the Warriors lost (at least from my point of view). They were the better team toward the latter part of the series, they figured out the mismatches and how to make the Warriors uncomfortable. I'm definitely assuming they'll bounce back from this (which could be wrong...I sure hope not of course) and get better next season.

Completely disagree with this.  Kyrie and LeBron went bonkers.  But if Curry would have played anywhere close to the level we are accustomed to watching him play at, I dont think this series is competitive.  Bron always will get his.  Kyrie to a lesser extent will too.  But even with those two going nuts, we still should have won if we played better.  

 

[acidicality]

Fair enough, I guess we can agree to disagree.

 

[dland24]

Yep.  Thats the beauty of sports.  We can all watch the same thing and interpret what we saw in many different ways.

 

[moe200069]

per sports illustrated, from Joe Lacob:

After Golden State’s NBA Finals loss to Cleveland, Warriors owner Joe Lacob said the team will be “very aggressive” in the coming months.

EMPTY THAT CLIP IN FREE AGENCY JOE!

Greg Monroe for Festus and HB

 

[monstar]

Completely disagree with this.  Kyrie and LeBron went bonkers.  But if Curry would have played anywhere close to the level we are accustomed to watching him play at, I dont think this series is competitive.  Bron always will get his.  Kyrie to a lesser extent will too.  But even with those two going nuts, we still should have won if we played better.  

As much as Steph wont admit or make excuses it was clear as day that he was playing for self preservation while hurt. All season he would mix it up and not settle for 3s. He did that all of this series, and for a majority of the OKC series. He just needs to focus on getting healthy and returning for next year.

This team played with no fire after game 4. We run a motion offense off of screens and rather then forcing the Cavs to play through screens they would let guys push them off the routes they should've taken.

I hope Steph replays that turnover in his head, bc its a problem he has had since he came into the league those lazy looping over the head passes.

We thought this team was battle tested, apparently not.


Now for Free Agency, Batum and Noah sounds good. However Noah will be on super limited minutes and not sure if Batum is an upgrade over Barnes on the defensive end.

Greg Monroe, man that sounds great actually but how much would that cost us?

 

[moe200069]

not too much more than what we'd be giving HB and/or Festus. under his current contract, which has two seasons left, Monroe's due to make close to $18mil a year. HB is likely going to get around $15mil and festus will command $10+ million. even with his injury history and poor showing this finals, Festus will likely get overpaid since big men are a premium. hell, look at how much the cavs poured into an unproven Tristan Thompson. they're looking like geniuses now

 

[grusumm18]

per sports illustrated, from Joe Lacob:
EMPTY THAT CLIP IN FREE AGENCY JOE!

Greg Monroe for Festus and HB

“We’re light-years ahead of probably every other team in structure, in planning, in how we’re going to go about things”

and they went 19-10 since said quote...

 

[dinkinflikka]

I'm already picturing a lineup of Steph-Klay-Batum-Green-Noah. That ball movement and defense would be absolutely beautiful. Please Bobbie and Joey make it happen.

 

[moe200069]

as long as Joe Lacob doesn't become Jed York, im not even mad at him. him and bob assembled a team that was minutes away from going back to back. if steph didn't forget how to complete a simple pass or kerr didnt refuse to take festus out, lacob's "light years ahead" comment wouldn't have back fired on him. folx are over blowing that comment. this man knows that winning is going to generate a fatter bank account. i have no doubts he's gonna make a splash in free agency. with kerr at the helm, I'm confident that this team could seemlessly incorporate another (fringe) all-star into its starting line up.

 

[geoff2005]

Completely disagree with this.  Kyrie and LeBron went bonkers.  But if Curry would have played anywhere close to the level we are accustomed to watching him play at, I dont think this series is competitive.  Bron always will get his.  Kyrie to a lesser extent will too.  But even with those two going nuts, we still should have won if we played better.  

Agreed, at least 2 games were for us to lose and the team as a whole dropped the ball, from harrison Barnes bricking, green getting suspended to curry not being as productive as he could be.

Was it just me but warriors kept biting into cavs switches. Sure cavs didn't captiolze a lot but I'm sure it wore down curry and kept getting bron and the team free throws. Seemed like lue was out coaching Kerr entire game 7


Either way I hope good moves will be made this offseason. I'm up for any of these guys Dwight Noah batum and KD

 

[acidicality]

The buzz now is that the Warriors might be targeting Dirk. Coming off the bench it would be intriguing, even at this point of his career.

 

[japanair21]

The buzz now is that the Warriors might be targeting Dirk. Coming off the bench it would be intriguing, even at this point of his career.

 

[D StaXX]

Dirk is retiring a Maverick.

 

[luong1209]

The buzz now is that the Warriors might be targeting Dirk. Coming off the bench it would be intriguing, even at this point of his career.

This guy really shows up out of nowhere the instant Dirk's name gets brought up .




How's the DVD collection JA?

 

[430AM]

A lot of you guys are in a much better place, or at least presenting yourself as in a much better place than I am in.  I am much older than most of the Warriors fam on NT, and I am absolutely devastated.  I am not gonna front like I am not.  Last night hurt so bad.  Being a 73 win team and blowing a 3 game lead is almost unfathomable.  This is easily the most disappointed I have ever been as a sports fan.  Giants in 2002 was really tough.  The Niners in the Superbowl was tough too.  However nothing compares to this.  

Just keeping it real and honest.  I am crushed.

I FEEL THE EXACT SAME WAY... Regardless of what era youre in as a Warriors fan this game 7 loss absolutely HURT.

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Moving forward tho, I really hope the rumors are true and this happens... IMO, Lacob and Meyers owe it to the team and their fans to make this move if it presents itself.

 

[sriracha hot sauce]

Man, this loss goes down as the toughest Bay Area sports loss for me. More than coming 8 outs away from winning the 2002 World Series and losing at the goal line at SB 47.

One thing I feel we missed was David Lee from last season. He would've been a presence in the paint and would've grabbed some 50/50 loose balls.

But life goes on, and we have a very young core and will contend for chips for a while -- It's a good time to be a Dubs fan.

 

[moe200069]

Man, this loss goes down as the toughest Bay Area sports loss for me. More than coming 8 outs away from winning the 2002 World Series and losing at the goal line at SB 47.

One thing I feel we missed was David Lee from last season. He would've been a presence in the paint and would've grabbed some 50/50 loose balls.

But life goes on, and we have a very young core and will contend for chips for a while -- It's a good time to be a Dubs fan.

DLand hates you right now for bringing up David Lee ...neverthless, David Lee's interior offense was missed; if he'd played minutes festus played, with his ability to finish and also shoot a few feet away from the basket, he probably would have at least contributed 10 points. However, he would've been a huge liability on defense. while festus looked dumb on that foul on lebron, with his length and quickness he did a decent job defending the rim at times and didn't get taken advantage every single time he was switched onto the primary ball handler. there's no doubt that the cavs would have targeted david lee into iso situations in which he was guarding lebron or kyrie. given his slow *** foot and lateral speed, we would've lost by double digits.

 

[TheGodFresco]

Dirk would be nice off the bench but he ain't doing that what's it gonna take to get Horford? I think he'd be the perfect center for the Warriors

 

[dland24]

Man, this loss goes down as the toughest Bay Area sports loss for me. More than coming 8 outs away from winning the 2002 World Series and losing at the goal line at SB 47.

One thing I feel we missed was David Lee from last season. He would've been a presence in the paint and would've grabbed some 50/50 loose balls.

But life goes on, and we have a very young core and will contend for chips for a while -- It's a good time to be a Dubs fan.

Agreed.

 

[japanair21]

Dirk would be nice off the bench but he ain't doing that what's it gonna take to get Horford? I think he'd be the perfect center for the Warriors

Harrison, Barbosa and Ezili?

 

[dland24]

Dirk would be nice off the bench but he ain't doing that

what's it gonna take to get Horford? I think he'd be the perfect center for the Warriors

Harrison, Barbosa and Ezili?

Fine with me.  Take them all.

 

[TheGodFresco]

Fine with me.  Take them all.

He's a UFA, so the Warriors just got to offer him a nice contract, let go of HB and Ezeli and should have more than enough to get Horford, probably can still afford HB if they wanted

 

[big1236]

i'd rather keep Ezeli than Barnes tho....

 

[japanair21]

He's a UFA, so the Warriors just got to offer him a nice contract, let go of HB and Ezeli and should have more than enough to get Horford, probably can still afford HB if they wanted

If they sign Horford I believe they'd have to give up rights to Harrison wouldn't they? It's been a while since I looked a ton into the salary cap stuff, but I thought if you reach near the cap, there's a hold on your former player that you may need to relinquish.

I don't see Horford taking less than the max.

EDIT: Just did some back-of-napkin calucations. 28-32 million? If he signs that with the Warriors, I don't think they can keep Harrison.

 

[clarkkent415]

Some thoughts on the finals:

They lost in game 4 after Draymond was suspended. In game 5, you could see the strenuous effort in the first half, they were trying their hardest to win that game.

In that game, Dre was doing things I haven't seen him do on offense since Denver which I believed contributed to his back going out. Klay was on fire the first half but on the other end they couldn't stop Lebron and Kyrie. Once Bogut was out for the series I knew they needed to win game 5.

Also, Curry was injured, he didn't choke. He cemented his greatness (at least for me) against OKC. I believe he just got ran down from all the attrition over the playoffs. When he came back, he had the bring them back from a deficit against PDX. Each series a comeback was involved.