FOX *CBM thread - RIP STAN LEE - Dark PhoeniX 06/07/19

Where Do You Rank LOGAN Among CBMs?

  • Best CBM to Date

    Votes: 13 16.7%
  • Easily Top 5

    Votes: 28 35.9%
  • Top 10, Maybe Top 15

    Votes: 29 37.2%
  • Mediocre at Best

    Votes: 5 6.4%
  • Not Good at All

    Votes: 3 3.8%

  • Total voters
    78
Currently watching i don't see where yall see teller looks like a jerk.
It has nothing to do with the movie.

Teller's face in everyday life is pretty douchey. It's the vibe he gives off as a person. A jerk. Plus ppl have actually said that.

He's a good enough actor not to let that seep in to the characters he portrays.
 
You're killing me Grace..
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"This is up there with Batman Begins."
She brought up some good points, but there's no protecting this film from backlash.
 
Like i said a few pages back. In his other movies i dont get that aura
From his speeches at awards shows he doesnt bring that aura either

Ill reserve judgement til i see him in person at a comic con or something
 
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Following news of its dismal opening weekend, it turns out that it didn't fare any better internationally either as the reboot debuted with a dismal $34.1 million from 43 markets for a global haul of $60.3 million.


Looks like a sequel and inevitable crossover are still in the plans.

What does this mean for the sequel? Fox are saying nothing about that movie (which is dated for 2017), but Fox domestic distribution chief Chris Aronson had this to say about these numbers: "While we're disappointed, we remain committed to these characters and we have a lot to look forward to in our Marvel universe."
 
They can't be serious about crossing over. They would be better off just leaving the XMen franchise by itself.
 
So do they need marvel's approval to make a crossover or not?
 
How would a crossover even work? The X-Men is still taking place in the 80's while the FF is present day (I'm assuming). Like I said before, the X-Men have enough characters that it can have its' own rich universe. Thinking about the early-mid nineties they had X-Men (blue team), Uncanny X-Men (gold team), X-Factor, X-Force, Excalibur and very strong solo characters. More than enough to build a solid set of films.

And really, at this point, if I were Fox, I'd avoid any FF involvement like the plague.
 
Following news of its dismal opening weekend, it turns out that it didn't fare any better internationally either as the reboot debuted with a dismal $34.1 million from 43 markets for a global haul of $60.3 million.

 
I hope all of you who are posting reviews and box office money have seen this for yourself. Because from what I just watched it was a solid movie. Yea the ending couldve been better but it was still a good watch
 
I hope all of you who are posting reviews and box office money have seen this for yourself. Because from what I just watched it was a solid movie. Yea the ending couldve been better but it was still a good watch

I saw it and thought it was decent for the first 50 minutes and then it completely unraveled. The Doom treatment was comical. I actually had a phone call come in around 1:10 in, left to take the call, and didn't bother to go back. I'm a big fan of Fantastic 4 and it didn't do justice to the franchise at all.
 
Just watched it with 5 people in the theater. Reviews were pretty spot on. Doom was a joke. Beginning was ok at best. 2nd half was terrible. CGI sucked. 

Chronicle just came on FX. I'll watch that.
 
I saw it and thought it was decent for the first 50 minutes and then it completely unraveled. The Doom treatment was comical. I actually had a phone call come in around 1:10 in, left to take the call, and didn't bother to go back. I'm a big fan of Fantastic 4 and it didn't do justice to the franchise at all.
yea but to say its elektra bad is unnecessary. It wasnt that bad.
 
So um yeah :{

I got that this was more grounded and had the sci-fi approach with the super science experiment gone wrong. I was fine with that concept a year ago before the rumors. Thought that would be cool. I also didn't mind more of a Ultimate F4 adaption.

The 1st third of this movie dragged, it was boring. I didn't know what it was trying to be but I'm sticking with it cuz it wasn't awful. You get the glimpse in to young Reed being really smart and some of Grimm's at home problems. The science fair stuff was kinda weak. The beginning just lacked pace and felt clunky. Same goes for the editing. Leaving out scenes from the trailer didn't help either. So suffice it to say this started off with a real bumpy start. I'm watching for free and it shouldn't make me feel like doing something else. Also, the intro of Johnny almost seemed out of place. Like it didn't fit. Didn't come off as the wildcard fun one that he's suppose to be (in that sense Evans did a better job as Johnny) that fits in this puzzle. His dad establishing that he's an engineer is the only thing that saved it.

Luckily things pick up 2/3s in with the science montage and the real sci-fi stuff with traveling to a different dimension/world. I liked that. I was in to it. I thought the movie found it's groove. When they go to that world it picked up and the sci-fi disaster comes in was all cool. However, I didn't like Sue not tagging along and my biggest problem was the guy playing Doom. If you're a Doom fan you will be disappointed and probably disgusted. I mean drinking with Doom? Doom smiling? The **** is that? Only time he should be smiling is when his enemies are laying at his feet. I don't know who this guy was playing but it was not Victor Von Doom. Just some cynical anti-gov scientist. Not the regal superior Doom with endless gravitas. This portrayal of Doom was worse than the Nip/Tuck guy's Doom.

Anyway, we get that time skip, we're like an hr in and now I'm wondering well where is this going? How does it end? If it continues on this sci-fi approach it could be good but I've already saw reviews and heard feedback and know it won't :lol And the lack of action didn't bother me as much if they had simply found a way to give us something else interesting to want to keep watching. I could've done with more Thing killing and Johnny fighting if they're just gonna make them soldiers instead of stuff on a screen. So Doom comes back now looking as lame as his personality was earlier :{ He can control electricity again, has his own force field, and could do that telekinectic exploding of ppl's heads. Just a weird power set which makes him overpowered in too direct way so of course his defeat makes no sense. Plus his whole reasoning has no backing, the movie could've shown us how humanity has doomed the planet and other stuff so his motive isn't so weak. One thing I noticed the 4 mailed it in acting wise with like the last 15 min. Unconvincing Franklin Storm death, interactions with Thing and Reed, the whole conflict with Johnny and his dad made it seem like a whole other movie went on with that :lol The rallying speech during the final fight was weak. The negotiations at the end made no sense if you want ppl to believe they're talking to the American gov't (I thought that scene would happen earlier in the movie). Also that Johnny line to Ben was just cruel. Mad out of place.

This wasn't Elektra awful or Ghost Rider so bad it's funny. This was just a boring mostly uneventful movie. Not good at all but not the worst thing I've ever seen. Definitely wouldn't watch again. Just didn't have anything in it that stood out and I mean like if this is on tv there aren't scenes you want to rewatch. The movie was drab in that sense.

2.6/8
 
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"What if we say no?

"Say yes"

I feel so bad for MBJ for being given that horrendous line 
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"What if we say no?

"Say yes"

I feel so bad for MBJ for being given that horrendous line :{ :(

MBJ is my dude and I will usually say in my best Marv Albert voice "OOOOOOOH WHAT A SPECTACULAR MOVE BY MICHAEL JORDAN" when he gets and kills awesome roles, but that line is almost as bad as it gets.
 
Some things I would've fixed to make this movie a bit better:

Not involve Doom AT ALL. Really, that would've been the best way to go given what we got.

If he has to be in it, the last time you see him is when they all think he died. He shows up at the end after the F4 save the day escaping planet zero going back to Latveria in armor he made with the rare metals on the planet cuz his face/body is badly disfigured (he figures his own way to teleport back to Earth). To begin with, he's introduced as Latveria's greatest mind and is working with the Americans in a sort of reach out establish relations sort of sense. By the end when he returns he takes over Latveria but that could be saved for sequels.

The main antagonist instead should've been Annihilus or Blastaar or some other random Negative zone bad guy that has minions. Once the 4 teleported there, they should've been attacked, and only after getting their powers by accident do they manage to escape and return home. You can still have Reed escape but then have the gov. scientists think they can rebuild the teleportation tech and they **** it up. Big tear in space which opens and closes randomly and now all the alien minions are invading Earth killing ppl. That way you at least get some action midway through the movie.

Have a better climax and final fight. I don't care how, bring in Bay if you have to.
 
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The film pulled in a ghastly 2.31x weekend multiplier, and (to the extent that it matters) earned a “C-” from Cinemascore. The film played 60% male, 51% under 25 years old, 45% Caucasian, 22% African America, 17% Hispanic, and 16% Asian. Point being, there won’t be any stretching of the legs on this one. At this point, we’re probably looking at a massive second-weekend drop. Even a 2.25x weekend-to-final multiplier along the lines of Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer ($58m/$131m) gives this new film a $60 million domestic total. So yes, even with a slightly leggier run, there is a really good chance that Josh Trank’s Fantastic Four ends up grossing less than Josh Trank’s Chronicle ($64.5m on a $12m budget). The best case scenario offers a 2.75x weekend-to-final, comparable with the 2005 Fantastic Four ($56m/$154m), which gives this film a $75m domestic total.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottme...ntastic-four-gets-clobbered-by-26-2m-weekend/


EW has a piece on some of the background drama. Feels like a LOT more stuff about this production is going to come out in the next few weeks.

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/08/07/fantastic-four-josh-trank-tweet
 
Some ppl like discussing box office. If you don't, just ignore it

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RBD, what you bolded is pretty crazy lol
 
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It's crazy that Chronicle literally cost one tenth of F4 :lol

personally I'm as interested in the business and technical aspects as I am with the finished product with a lot of these films. I know it's not for everybody but these threads are open discussions so idk what to tell you :lol
 
I'm not going to sit here and say it was a Great film... I can't
But it's really not as bad as some of these people are making it out to be.
It was watchable, and even though the end part with doom was stupid, they set it up for him to come back.
he was basically in God Doom mode. (someone on set had to had read a comic)

Zik's review is pretty spot on
but I personally thought the Ben/reed origin was very well done.
in the short amount of time that it was it was good.
They left ben out the story a lot but it's somewhat ok.

Everyone could've had more scenes but honestly short and sweet still got majority of the point across.

Zik already explained on the things it was missing. but no other MCU movie had to try and cover 4 different people's origin in one movie, cap, thor, IM already had their origin movies.
So yea more could've been developed between Johnny , sue , and ben
but it was enough imo.

I enjoyed watching it. probably wouldn't again but there aren't many movies I watch more than once anyway.


I think people more mad a black dad adopted a little white girl.. YEA I SAID IT!!! 8o

Some ppl like discussing box office. If you don't, just ignore it

no likes discussing box office, so irrelevant to the content of what we're really trying to discuss which is the movie's story
 
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