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I aint say nothing about no stop and frisk.So from a law enforcement and political perspective they don't care enough. They don't care to put an end to or even curb a bunch of gangs that have no leadership and are in the streets committing dumb crimes.
I can't completely buy you putting this on the incarceration rate and lack of good gang leadership. The whole reason you need an okay for a hit in LA from top brass is because of how severe their law is. Nobody want these kind of problems for the entire fam when **** goes down let alone when some punk makes a dumb move that can put everybody away. So they instill fear and a pretty strict organized structure. So if the Chi lacks that it should be even easier to round up a bunch of idiots with guns that don't value their lives.
I do not think it is easy to round up all the idiot gang members with guns who don't value their lives. There is an estimated 70,000 gang members with the city of Chicago. Also mass incarceration 9ie the war on drugs) has led to male leadership in the home and on the street vacant, so I really don't see how you cant determine this to be a factor.
I agree with you the strict laws in California do play some role. Some of the gang injunctions in California include already illegal such as selling drugs, vandalizing property and possessing weapons. Other activities that they are restricted from doing have included associating with other named gang members, curfew or riding bicycles. We see the stop and frisk policy in NY and some contribute that to the reduction in crime (They dont 95% of stop and frisks find no contraband).
Although these methods may work they are short term solutions and one's that i believe violate our basic human rights and perpetuate racism and stereotype. They increase the tension between youth of color and police and perpetuate the stereotype that youth of color are criminals. You go to any urban community in NY and CA when the police role up all everyone known to get against the wall to be searched. Laws like stop and frisk and crimes like riding bikes violate our 4th amendment rights which prohibits unreasonable search and seizures and sets out requirements for search warrants based on probably cause. Just because you are a person of color does not give the police or anyone a right to search or bring you to jail because of suspicion of illegal activity.
Lastly locking people up is the last thing we need. These gang members are still people who are capable of doing great things with their lives. Many of them are so young with their brains still developing. They are not animals or people who are considered less than and should be looked down upon. Like any person who is hurting they need help. And prison is not a rehabilitation center it is a punishment. Not only that, our brown and black brothers are punished even after they paid their debt to society by being labeled felons. Felons have more difficulty finding jobs are not allowed to apply for government assistance (food stamps, WIC, section 8 housing, college loans etc). They are also unable to perform their basic democratic right of vote and serve on a jury.
IMO proper mental health diagnosis needs to be performed. Many veterans of war are diagnosed with PTSD, which is induced from witnessing or experiencing traumatic events. Individuals with PTSD are far more prone to substance abuse, unable to sustain relationships, and violent outbursts. All of which we see in crime ridden communities. And we all know these communities are just as violent as war.
Giuliani didn't need no stop and frisk to curb crime in nyc. I mean you giving me a lot of info here but it seems to me the chicago pd simply sucks balls at their jobs.
Actual police work, constant patrols, routine traffic stops, an actual police presence in these specific areas where all the killing is going on would be a start but it sounds like since it's only happening in these specific areas the police have resigned themselves and are okay with these young fools killing each other off.
Hey I don't care that much for the nypd now and think they've gone too far given they're the biggest gang in the city but I aint gonna deny how bad it was in the 90s and early 2000s. What was done to decrease violent crimes and drug related crimes actually worked. **** if the youth don't have a good relationship with the police. Also you talking about gang members with potential who shouldn't be locked up and I'm talking about murderers with all sorts of illegal firearms committing senseless killing and other crimes. I say **** their potential; lock em up or kill em. There's plenty other youth in the area trying to do right with potential that aint killing ppl. As far as I see it you take a life you forfeit your own, you give up all your privileges and liberties. That's how it works in any modern society. You don't deserve more chances. You telling me they're so undeveloped they don't' understand the concept of taking a life?
To be clear ppl with mental illnesses is a whole other topic. If you're telling me they're vets with PTSD and mentally handicapped joining gangs in Chi town killin ppl then yall got a bigger problem than I thought.
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