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How can they value life if they've never been shown the value in their own?
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long term solution = investment, development, education
Unfortunately there are no grocery stores in urban communities as to why most food deserts are in these areas. The lack of car transportation doesn't allow for patrons to buy groceries in bulk. They have to take the bus and only buy groceries they can carry. Therefore it is not good business to open grocery stores in these communities. Which is why when you drive through these communities you see nothing but 7-11s, bodegas and fast food places selling food high in fat contributing to the obesity problem we see in low income communities.Open up a few Wholefoods / Trader Joes, problem solved.
I do not think it is easy to round up all the idiot gang members with guns who don't value their lives. There is an estimated 70,000 gang members with the city of Chicago. Also mass incarceration 9ie the war on drugs) has led to male leadership in the home and on the street vacant, so I really don't see how you cant determine this to be a factor.So from a law enforcement and political perspective they don't care enough. They don't care to put an end to or even curb a bunch of gangs that have no leadership and are in the streets committing dumb crimes.
I can't completely buy you putting this on the incarceration rate and lack of good gang leadership. The whole reason you need an okay for a hit in LA from top brass is because of how severe their law is. Nobody want these kind of problems for the entire fam when **** goes down let alone when some punk makes a dumb move that can put everybody away. So they instill fear and a pretty strict organized structure. So if the Chi lacks that it should be even easier to round up a bunch of idiots with guns that don't value their lives.
Agree with the rule of 12It is what it is really. We got our car shot up years ago for making a wrong turn. You have to understand that some gang areas have their rivals across the street from each other. Police can't be everywhere. There is a shoot first mentality and life really means nothing , but also if your out riding around at 2am in a bad neighborhood you have a higher chance to be a victim of violence. I like the herm Edwards rule of 12 that says nothing good happens after 12. One of the shootings I believe was actually someone with a conceal carry shooting at someone who pulled a gun on them first. Conceal carry is very new to the city.
Bro you're trippin. Propaganda will do that to a community.
The solution is so easy to understand, if we took the time to look within.
Use your mind friends.. be safe, spread the love nd most of all .... Stay freshhhh !!
An idle mind is the devil's playground.
[COLOR=#red]NYC should be the model city of how to slowly change a huge violent crime ridden metropolis into a reinvigorated vibrant city. What people don't know that the Times Square area of Manhattan used to be the prostitute ridden, 3 pr0n shops on every block, vermin infested mug-a-thin area. After Guliani came in with his controversial tactics New York City has turned its entire image around for the most part. Basically it takes a strong leader who gives no dams about people complaining bout how the city is changing.
Red Hook Projects which was one of Brooklyn's most notorious areas now has an Ikea...Harlem is cleaning up, and even Brownsville area of BK is being revitalized. Chicago can be fixed...NYC is a much larger and complex city and it worked for them...no excuses.[/COLOR]
Listen to this man, he is 100% right, I bug out everytime I go to red hook, Ikea, A DAM IKEA!!!!!
Didn't it all start to go really downhill when they decided to level all the projects like the infamous Cabrini Green homes etc. Of course these places were surely crime ridden but at least there was likely more gang structure and leadership simply because of the proximity of OGs to BGs. When they displaced tens of thousands of people who always lived together to random neighborhoods whatever semblance of community they ever had was prly shot to hell. So now there's prly a local gang on every random block in whatever neighborhoods they forced those people into which leads to all the random gun violence. Nobody answers to anybody anymore and it's just a free for all. The kids born in the 90s remember and glorify a gang culture that they never got to learn the rules for.
I can't imagine what would happen if nyc decided to tear down queensbridge, edenwald, Brownsville etc etc and randomly relocate the residents. Surely chaos would ensue.
Its the music, that whole Chiraq movement in music is giving the young kids someone to look up 2, just look at the ages of the shooters and the deceased
An idle mind is the devil's playground.
its deeper than rap though.
[COLOR=#red]Exactly my dude...Rap is the chicken, not the egg. Rap is the expression of their effed up situation...and the situation was there before the "Chiraq" movement.
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Rahm Emanuel is not the mayor to usher in change like Rudy was. Rahm too busy playing Obama politics to get anything done
Seems you actually do not know what gentrification islong term solution = investment, development, education
Be careful, your long term solution is what NT likes to call gentrification
Seems you actually do not know what gentrification islong term solution = investment, development, education
Be careful, your long term solution is what NT likes to call gentrification
I find it very difficult for to say other cities should take the same approach NYC has. NYC is unlike any other place is the world (NYC in the summer is the GOAT). The land in NYC will always have value and everyone will always want to live there whether they be national or international residents. In 2010 NYC was rated the most global city in the world taking into account political engagement, cultural experience, information exchange, human capital and business activity. This is something that no other city in the US can match up with. Cities like Chicago, Detroit, St.Louis even LA just don't have the ability to offer residents, businesses etc what NYC can. When any part of NYC is starting to get "cleaned up" there will be an abundance of bidders willing to take that land.NYC should be the model city of how to slowly change a huge violent crime ridden metropolis into a reinvigorated vibrant city. What people don't know that the Times Square area of Manhattan used to be the prostitute ridden, 3 pr0n shops on every block, vermin infested mug-a-thon area. Now it's one of the biggest tourist areas in the city. After Guliani came in with his controversial tactics New York City has turned its entire image around for the most part. Basically it takes a strong leader who gives no dams about people complaining bout how the city is changing.
Red Hook Projects which was one of Brooklyn's most notorious areas now has an Ikea...Harlem is cleaning up, and even Brownsville area of BK is being revitalized. Chicago can be fixed...NYC is a much larger and complex city and it worked for them...no excuses.
But we have seen the same decrease in crime nationally and throughout other major cities. In 1992 there were 1,092 murders in Los Angeles. In 2012, the city recorded just 298.Exactly my dude, I am still surprised to this day
Ok so here are some numbers for perspective...in 1991 NYC had over 2400 murders in one year...in 2013 there were 333 murders which is less than one murder per calendar year and NYC has a population of over 8 million people...that's pretty amazing a city so big with relatively so few murders.
Chicago needs to get their stuff right and it starts at the top...it's lazy just to blame the terribly misguided youths. I mean yeah they are the ones committing a lot of the murder, but there are ways to curb it.
Interesting fact: NYC is made of 5 Boroughs (BK,Bronx,Queens,Manhattan, Staten Island)...they are not individual cities...but if Brooklyn was its own city it would be the 4th largest city in the United States.
I find it very difficult for to say other cities should take the same approach NYC has. NYC is unlike any other place is the world (NYC in the summer is the GOAT). The land in NYC will always have value and everyone will always want to live there whether they be national or international residents. In 2010 NYC was rated the most global city in the world taking into account political engagement, cultural experience, information exchange, human capital and business activity. This is something that no other city in the US can match up with. Cities like Chicago, Detroit, St.Louis even LA just don't have the ability to offer residents, businesses etc what NYC can. When any part of NYC is starting to get "cleaned up" there will be an abundance of bidders willing to take that land.
But we have seen the same decrease in crime nationally and throughout other major cities. In 1992 there were 1,092 murders in Los Angeles. In 2012, the city recorded just 298.
Here is a chart of Chicago's murder's since 1965 to 2013
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We see they are no where near what they were in the early 90's. So i find it difficult to say Guliani was the reason for the decrease in murder rates when other cities and the nation was going through a similar decline.