Elementary School Shooting: Newtown, Connecticut. 28 confirmed dead, 18 were children

You can reach up take the gun from him, breaking his finger, and direct it away from yourself all faster than he can just move his finger a fraction of an inch to pull the trigger?

That's the general idea. However it's a little bit more complex than that. His reaction time wouldn't be able to compete with your action. So yes all he has to do is pull the trigger, but because my attack would've been so quick he wouldn't have the proper time to react. By the time he's able to pull the trigger his gun is already in the air, and by the time he realizes what's going on his finger is broken and i'm now aiming his gun at him.

Keep in mind this can only work if he's pointing the gun directly at you from close range. If you practice it a couple times, rest assured that gun he's pointing at you is 99% yours.

There are a couple videos on youtube, but they seem to be a bit more complex than the way i was taught it. The way that i was taught to disarm a weapon form an assailant is simple, and is heavily dependent on speed.
 
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Taking gun a away from somebody at close range is is easier than getting a hard on, believe dat. The moment somebody holds a gun to my head, i'm 99% it's mine. Within a second his trigger finger is broken and i'de be the new proud owner of his gun. Look into it, you'll be bamboozled.
Just to add insult too injury. It's harder to disarm a knife from someone than it is to take a gun away from somebody at close range. I'm telling you, read up.

21 foot rule, I know about it. But the while point of a firearm is standoff distance. You don't let that person get close enough to you to try and disarm you.
 
21 foot rule, I know about it. But the while point of a firearm is standoff distance. You don't let that person get close enough to you to try and disarm you.
It's a good thing most of these shooters don't know that. Makes it a lot easier for us to disarm them.
 
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That's the general idea. However it's a little bit more complex than that. His reaction time wouldn't be able to compete with your action. So yes all he has to do is pull the trigger, but because my attack would've been so quick he wouldn't have the proper time to react. By the time he's able to pull the trigger his gun is already in the air, and by the time he realizes what's going on his finger is broken and i'm now aiming his gun at him.
Keep in mind this can only work if he's pointing the gun directly at you from close range. If you practice it a couple times, rest assured that gun he's pointing at you is 99% yours.
There are a couple videos on youtube, but they seem to be a bit more complex than the way i was taught it. The way that i was taught to disarm a weapon form an assailant is simple, and is heavily dependent on speed.

You are gonna get shot in your face my boy. You should just chill a bit.
 
Thoughts on this article posted in 2001 (especially my white bros)

http://www.examiner.com/article/connecticut-shooting-white-males-and-mass-murder

School Shootings and White Denial
Posted on March 6, 2001

Published on Alternet, www.alternet.org, 3/6/01

I can think of no other way to say this, so here goes: An awful lot of white folks need to pull our heads out of our collective ***. Two more children are dead and thirteen are injured, and another community is scratching its blonde scalp, utterly perplexed as to how a school shooting the likes of the one in Santee, California could happen. After all, as the Mayor of the town said on CNN: “We’re a solid town, a good town, with good kids; a good church-going town; an All-American town.” Well, maybe that’s the problem.

I said this after Columbine and no one listened, so I’ll say it again: Most whites live in a state of self-delusion. We think danger is black or brown, not to mention poor, and if we can just move far enough away from “those people,” we’ll be safe. If we can just find an “all-American” town, life will be better, because “things like this just don’t happen here.”

Well excuse me for pointing this out, but in case you hadn’t noticed, “here” is about the only place these kinds of things do happen. Oh sure, there’s plenty of violence in urban communities too. But mass murder, wholesale slaughter, kill-’em-all-let-God-sort-’em-out kinda’ craziness seems made for those “safe” white suburbs or rural communities. Yet the FBI insists there is no “profile” of a school shooter.

Come again? White boy after white boy after white boy decides to use their classmates for target practice, and yet there is no profile? In the past two years, thirty-two young men have either carried out mass murder against classmates and teachers or planned to do so, only to be foiled at the last minute. Thirty of these have been white. Yet there is no profile? Imagine if these killers and would-be killers had nearly all been black. Would we still hesitate to put a racial face on the perpetrators? Doubtful.

Indeed, if any black child, especially in the white suburbs of Littleton or Santee, were to openly discuss plans to murder fellow students, as happened at Columbine and Santana High, you can bet somebody would have turned them in and the cops would have beat a path to their door. But when whites discuss murderous intentions, our racial stereotypes of danger too often lead us to ignore it. They’re just “talking” and won’t really do anything, we tell ourselves. How many have to die before we rethink that nonsense? How many parents, Mayors and Sheriffs must we listen to, describing how “normal” their community is, and how they can’t understand what went wrong?

I’ll tell you what went wrong and it’s not TV, rap music, video games or a lack of prayer in school. What went wrong is that white Americans ignored dysfunction and violence when it only seemed to affect other communities, and thereby blinded ourselves to the chaos that never remains isolated forever. That which affects the urban “ghetto” today will be coming to a Wal-Mart near you tomorrow, and was actually there all along, merely hidden by layers of privilege that allow most white folks to cover up our own pathologies.

What went wrong is that we allowed ourselves to be lulled into a false sense of security by media representations of crime and violence that portray both as the province of those who are anything but white like us. We ignore the warning signs, because in our minds, the warning signs don’t live in our neighborhood, but across town, in that place where we lock our car doors on the rare occasion we have to drive there. That false sense of security — the result of race and class stereotypes — then gets people killed. And still we act amazed.

But listen up my fellow white Americans: Our children are no better, no more moral, and no more decent than anyone else. Dysfunction is all around us, whether we choose to recognize it or not, and not only in terms of school shootings. For example, according to the Centers for Disease Control’s Youth Risk Behavior Survey, and the Monitoring the Future report from the National Institutes on Drug Abuse, it is our children, and not those of the urban ghetto who are most likely to use drugs. White high school students are seven times more likely than blacks to have used cocaine and heroin, eight times more likely to have smoked crack, and ten times more likely to have used LSD. What’s more, it is white youth between the ages of 12-17 who are more likely to sell drugs: one third more likely than their black counterparts; and it is white youth who are twice as likely to binge drink, and nearly twice as likely as blacks to drive drunk; and white males are twice as likely as black males to bring a weapon to school.

Yet I would bet there aren’t one hundred white people in Santee, or most anywhere else who have ever heard a single one of the statistics above; because the media doesn’t report on white dysfunction; at least not in a fashion that leads one to recognize the dysfunction as explicitly white.

A few years ago, U.S. News ran a story entitled: “A Shocking look at blacks and crime.” Yet never has any media outlet discussed the “shocking” whiteness of these shoot-em-ups. Indeed, every time media commentators discuss the similarities in these crimes, they mention that the shooters were boys who got picked on, but never do they seem to notice a certain highly visible melanin deficiency. Color-blind, I guess.

White-blind is more like it, as I figure these folks would spot color with a quickness were some of it to stroll into their community. Indeed, Santee’s whiteness is so taken for granted by its residents that the Mayor, in that CNN interview, thought nothing of saying on the one hand that the town was eighty-two percent white, but that on the other hand, “This is America.” Well that isn’t America, and it especially isn’t California, where whites are only half of the population. This is a town that is removed from America, from its own state, and yet its Mayor thinks they are the normal ones; so much so that when asked about racial diversity, he replied that there weren’t many of different “ethni-tis-tities.” Not a word. Not even close.

I’d like to think that after this one, people would wake up, take note, and rethink their stereotypes of who the dangerous ones are. But deep down, I know better. The folks hitting the snooze button on this none-too-subtle alarm are my own people after all, and I know their blindness like the back of my hand.


*waits for "why does everything have to be about race?" responses*
 
You are gonna get shot in your face my boy. You should just chill a bit.
No i am not or at least not from close range. Like i said it ONLY works if shooter's at close range. You guys gotta do your research. I can't be the only one niketalk that knows this.
 
No i am not or at least not from close range. Like i said it ONLY works if shooter's at close range. You guys gotta do your research. I can't be the only one niketalk that knows this.

You trollin right?....

You can't research and download your reflexes online bruh....the hell you talking about :lol
 
[COLOR=#red]6th-grader brings gun to school to protect against ‘Connecticut-style’ attack[/COLOR]

A sixth-grader at West Kearns Elementary School near Salt Lake City, Utah, brought a gun to school on Monday, saying he wanted to protect himself and his friends after Friday's shooting in Newtown, Conn.

He "continues to assert that he brought the weapon to protect himself and his friends from a 'Connecticut-style [shooting],'" Granite School District spokesman Ben Horsley said.

Two of the 11-year-old's classmates told their teacher on Monday afternoon that the student had a gun. The teacher immediately "apprehended" the student and contacted the authorities, Horsley said. The boy is being charged with one count of possession of a firearm on school property and three counts of aggravated assault, for allegedly threatening some of his classmates.

He will be charged in the juvenile system and eventually will be transferred to another school.


http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout...ol-protect-against-connecticut-215442104.html



Charges? Nonsense. Kid was excising his rights as a citizen and patriot.

Kids need to protect themselves. Had the kids at Newtown been strapped, perhaps Lanza wouldn't be the notorious figure he is today.

Everyone in the school should've been strapped: principles, teachers, janitors, etc

We all get guns and stay strapped = no more gun violence/massacres.


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Son I didn't know we had a bunch if Jason Bournes in the house.
You are gonna get shot in your face my boy. You should just chill a bit.
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I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don't have money. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let my daughter go now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you.
 
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ccastro02's next reply:

I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don't have money. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let my daughter go now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you.

#DEAD

Dude is a wizard.
 
Son I didn't know we had a bunch if Jason Bournes in the house.
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  SALUTE, id like to see these people disarm someone when a loaded gun is stuck in their face, sure it sounds great on paper, like to see it put in practice, watch you brain decorate the side walk smh 
 
6th-grader brings gun to school to protect against ‘Connecticut-style’ attack

A sixth-grader at West Kearns Elementary School near Salt Lake City, Utah, brought a gun to school on Monday, saying he wanted to protect himself and his friends after Friday's shooting in Newtown, Conn.

He "continues to assert that he brought the weapon to protect himself and his friends from a 'Connecticut-style [shooting],'" Granite School District spokesman Ben Horsley said.

Two of the 11-year-old's classmates told their teacher on Monday afternoon that the student had a gun. The teacher immediately "apprehended" the student and contacted the authorities, Horsley said. The boy is being charged with one count of possession of a firearm on school property and three counts of aggravated assault, for allegedly threatening some of his classmates.

He will be charged in the juvenile system and eventually will be transferred to another school.


http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout...ol-protect-against-connecticut-215442104.html
 

 
Future George Zyzzman I mean Zimmerman. 
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You guys can take it for what it is. Let's see how good a gun holsted to your waist will do you if somebody is pointing one of their own towards your head at close range. The second you reach for your gun and try to un-holster it, you are done.
 
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Thoughts on this article posted in 2001 (especially my white bros)

*waits for "why does everything have to be about race?" responses*

"But when whites discuss murderous intentions, our racial stereotypes of danger too often lead us to ignore it. They’re just “talking” and won’t really do anything, we tell ourselves."

What? :rolleyes

A lot of bias in that article. But I do agree that we can say there is a profile for mass murderers, especially school shooters.

VT shooter and Lee Malvo are ones that come to mind as exceptions.
 
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"But when whites discuss murderous intentions, our racial stereotypes of danger too often lead us to ignore it. They’re just “talking” and won’t really do anything, we tell ourselves."
What?
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A lot of bias in that article. But I do agree that we can say there is a profile for mass murderers, especially school shooters.
VT shooter and Lee Malvo are ones that come to mind as exceptions.
how so... the only bias i can say i see honestly is the responses to gun violence that are in this thread.
 
how so... the only bias i can say i see honestly is the responses to gun violence that are in this thread.

It seems like the author is assuming the entire white community thinks the way he describes. Like our fears of victimization only lie "on the other side of the tracks."

In generally white and affluent areas for example (at least in some of my surrounding areas):

1) Schools have lockdown drills for reasons such as is the topic of this thread
2) College campuses have 911 emergency call boxes on damn near every lamp post
3) Rehabs/detoxes/etc lie well within the bounds of the suburbs
4) Hit lists, bomb threats, etc. are not a rare occurrence in white schools (my sister is a teacher at one of these schools and has had 2 in the past month. All taken seriously: Investigations, ATF, K-9 units, the whole nine)
5) There's an epidemic of prescription pill/heroin use among whites in their late teens and twentysomethings around my parts

The author of this article makes it seems like officials and law enforcement ignores these issues in white dominated communities. Not so.

Doesn't take a brain surgeon to acknowledge there are substance abuse issues and violent individuals in areas other than the inner city. And this is before the recent mass shootings.
 
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I'll bite.
First off all, we obviously know America doesn't care nearly as much about poor minorities.
2nd: The violence in Chicago stems from decades of gangs, drugs, etc. While it's a damn shame, gun control isn't the only issue that's affecting things. Majority of the people in Chicago who get shot aren't "innocent bystandards". Often they know who shot them and they know WHY they got shot, just with any major urban city. The difference between Chicago and the situation in Conn. is that there was no underlying issue. These kids were killed for NO reason whatsoever. They weren't hit by accident, they were literally killed in cold blood. As unfortunate as what's going on in Chicago might be, the victims don't represent that same demographic. (and I'm not talking about race)

I have to disagree with your 2nd notion. For several reason: The violence that occured are the same. It's just the Newton shooting is more inconcievable, much more malice involved. But, it doesn't detract from the one common denominator which is the gun. Also, what about the children/elders who are getting caught up in driveby's? They don't know why, or who is shooting them. A life is a life, innocent or not.

And, yes, race and class plays a huge part when it comes to reforming laws.

Funny, how nobody mention that on the same day of the shooting, there was a stabbing spree of little children in China. 22 children were stabbed. At the end of the day, violence is violence. Reforming the gun laws/gun ban will not change anything, just change the weapon of choice.
 
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