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Shaq should just come out in the press conference intro and tell Lebron to feed the big dog.
DONE DEAL: Shaq to Cleveland for Sasha Pavlovic and Ben Wallace/ EDIT: Villanueva next???
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The Cavs now have 3 previous #1 overall draft picks.
Is this a first?
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As Shaq once put it, you don't need the junk yard dog, he ain't going to protect the yard.
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Im Sick of Shaq ring chasing.....
"He's a condom, jumping click to click"
And that Phoenix team was way more loaded in talent than clevelands team..... only benefit is that its half court offense and Lebron will draw more attentionthan any player on Phoenix, All thought Nash is a pass 1st PG..... Cleveland doesnt make the finals next year again..... Boston.
(and i hate Boston)
"He's a condom, jumping click to click"
And that Phoenix team was way more loaded in talent than clevelands team..... only benefit is that its half court offense and Lebron will draw more attentionthan any player on Phoenix, All thought Nash is a pass 1st PG..... Cleveland doesnt make the finals next year again..... Boston.
(and i hate Boston)
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really?
i think tht the cavs are going to treat this like the miami heat situation in 06....
wade=lebron > main/ 1st option
shaq/heat 06=shaq/cavs 09-10 > 2nd option, will still be a force
jdub/posey/walker/payton/mourning = mo/west/boobie/wally/z /andy > role players
i starting to get worried now...
will LEBRON stay w/ shaq incleveland? dang!
do you think shaq just wants to extend his 'beef' with dwight? and show him 'how its done'?
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did hakeem, david, pat have LEBRON??
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If the Cavs get Villanueva, that's not filling a need defensively. Dude's gonna be a scoring threat inside or outside, but will there be too many shotsto go around.
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I've read a lot of nonsense in this thread and its depressing. If any of you truly believe this ain't a good trade, I seriously have to question yourbasketball knowledge. Do yall actually watch basketball or just the highlights on sportscenter, I think the latter. I'll just say that and nothing else.Can't wait for the draft.
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^no ones saying its a bad trade. i mean, they basically got rid of 2 bums for an old shaq.
what everyone is saying is that shaq isnt the answer to clevelands problems, unless they make another trade to fill that void at the 2.
what everyone is saying is that shaq isnt the answer to clevelands problems, unless they make another trade to fill that void at the 2.
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So is Z coming off the bench?
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Z will most likely come off the Bench but I could see the Cavs resting Shaq a lot. They didnt give up anyone who was key to them making the playoffs this yearso they could essentially rest Shaq every time they have a back to back and he would only play something like 60 games during the season. Leaving him fairlyhealthy for the playoffs. I dont think any is arguing that the Cavs will miss the playoffs even if Shaq doesnt play a minute in the regular season.
This is a very good trade for the Cavs. The only team tey really had trouble with is Orlando, LA and the Celtics this year. All of which are because Z cant gothe whole game guarding someone down low so they would have to come with doubles and all those teams have guys they can kick to and make shots. Now they wontdouble as much and guys can stay with their assignments. To beat the Cavs next year you are going to have to get out and run on them. Half court offensivegames are going to be tough to take from the Cavs the way they are set up now. And if they do anything substantial in the Draft 2night that may get eventougher.
This is a very good trade for the Cavs. The only team tey really had trouble with is Orlando, LA and the Celtics this year. All of which are because Z cant gothe whole game guarding someone down low so they would have to come with doubles and all those teams have guys they can kick to and make shots. Now they wontdouble as much and guys can stay with their assignments. To beat the Cavs next year you are going to have to get out and run on them. Half court offensivegames are going to be tough to take from the Cavs the way they are set up now. And if they do anything substantial in the Draft 2night that may get eventougher.
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Originally Posted by Emmanuel Goldstein
you guys crack me up ... does anyone watch basketball or do yall just yell kobe at the screen every time he scores? the cavs were missing one thing in these playoffs and that was an interior presence ... z couldnt guard a soul and when his jumper was off he was non existent on the offensive end ... saying the cavs need "a lot" more is !!%##!+ ******ed ... they were 2 games away from the finals last year and d howard was able to roam all around on the defensive end cuz he didnt have to worry about any big men ...
if you actually understand basketball you would realize how much of a liability having a "perimiter" center with no post game is on a team like the cavaliers ... guards can stick their men up by the three point line instead of having to sag down and double ... d howard didnt have to do a thing on d except wait for someone to drive and try to block their shot ...
insert shaqapotomous and the whole game changes ... now, instead of the cavs guards driving and kicking for three every time, they have the chance to throw a lob to a big man ... d howard has to stay on his man a tad bit longer ... not to mention howards on ball defense is HORRIBLE and shaq will abuse his %#+ ... to say with this trade the cavs arent any closer to a ship is just stupid ...
shaq back in the east
you were probably one of those people that thought cleveland was going to sweep orlando
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call it done, that the cavs are going to not win anything with shaq. sorry but he did mess up the suns chemistry
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yes if they couldn't get shaq they would have got chandler
and everyone knows this is a good trade for the cavs because they gave up NOTHING, they point everyone is making is that this move alone wont have them winninganything
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personally, i'm not criticizing the trade. if anything, it was a good move simply because they got an All-Star center in exchange for 2scrubs. it's always a positive move when you get something for nothing.
i'm just trying to calm people down who are acting like this trade all of a sudden makes Cleveland the top dogs in the league. it was a good trade, butthey still have more moves they need to make.
and for people talking about Villanueva.. Milwaukee now has more than enough to resign him after the RJ trade. he's been implying for a while now that hewants to leave, but at the end of the day he won't have a choice because no one will be able to beat the Bucks out. the Cavs have a better shot at Sheed.
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... & don't forget
DOWNTOWN43 wrote:
i'm just trying to calm people down who are acting like this trade all of a sudden makes Cleveland the top dogs in the league. it was a good trade, but they still have more moves they need to make.
Exactly. Let's not forget all these same dudes flappin gums for 8 months all suddenly silenced like they was on the Death Star when Lukepulled thru.
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Trade is
Still no answer for their subpar outside shooting. Z could at least spread the floor. Shaq won't do that, although he will be an upgrade in the middledefensively. He still old tho. Dwight is still on him 1 on 1 in them 'Offs. Positions 1,2 & 4 are still shaky. They're still susceptible to thepick & roll and drive & kicks.
Still no answer for their subpar outside shooting. Z could at least spread the floor. Shaq won't do that, although he will be an upgrade in the middledefensively. He still old tho. Dwight is still on him 1 on 1 in them 'Offs. Positions 1,2 & 4 are still shaky. They're still susceptible to thepick & roll and drive & kicks.
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Cavs keep the 46 pick and send the Suns next year's 2nd rder
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Good trade for Cleveland. Not ready to proclaim them the champs yet but Shaq still has some left in his tank. He can still dominate games as we saw him do inPhoenix last year.
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these fools didnt even get a 1st round pick back?
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Maybe Shaq will be motivated to win a ring to put him over Kobe?
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I think Shaq is going to play great for the Cavs. yes, I am a cavs fan, however shaq will be very motivated to winning with the team. He hates dwight howardand stan van gundy, everyone knows he wants another ring especially after kobe getting his 4th! It would be amazing to see shaq vs kobe in the finals, and tohave LeBron with shaq together in the finals? I just dont see how they could lose! So, im prediciting the cavs to win it all after a heartbreak playoff run andfor the king to remain in cleveland!
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It's fun to dream, huh?
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not a dream, a reality..
