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You have no idea what you're talking about. Don't mistake an unorthodox style for lack of talent.
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You have no idea what you're talking about. Don't mistake an unorthodox style for lack of talent.
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Well said. If you haven't laced up a pair of gloves or followed the sport extensively, you can't really talk about boxing. Whether you want to believe it or not, Hamed was a force in the featherweight division.
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celticsfan9783
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Forgot all about that Jim Rome interview 
Classic 
Classic 
mr marcus
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the day I started hating Jim Buck
and that rome clip is legendary......always crack me up
and that rome clip is legendary......always crack me up
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man I had to watch this twice. It's hilarious.my dude hit em with the shawn michaels sweet chin music
I have never sen this before.
OMG WTF LMFAO
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The ref's face!!!! 
:x He didn't want to get near any of that. Son was trying to stay as far away because of the power of those jabs.
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Go back and watch his fights man. They were a joke. You must be the same cats thinking that every single AND1 streetball player could dominate the NBA. Unorthodox style......eff outta here
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You don't know anything about boxing. Pernell Whitaker had what most would consider an awkward defense, relying mostly on upper body and head movement as opposed to a high guard. Despite this, many consider "Sweet Pea" to be the best defensive fighter of all time. Roy Jones Jr is another example. Up until the first fight against Antonio Tarver, Roy dominated by relying on timing, instincts, reflexes and pure athleticism. Once he beat Ruiz and went back down in weight, it seemed as if his reflexes weren't the same, which eventually led to him being knocked out.
Having a textbook style doesn't make you a great fighter. Do your homework.
Having a textbook style doesn't make you a great fighter. Do your homework.
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When did I question the legitimacy of Jones or Sweet Pea? The hell are you talking about?? You mentioned Athleticism, timing, and reflexes and it's a shame you consider Hamed anywhere near the realm of those fighters. I suppose Zab Judah is a great boxer as well? Hamed was the Zab Judah of his time. Nothing more, and he will not be remembered for anything more than a dancer that had rediculous stage entrances.
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Your reading comprehension skills are terrible. Regarding Naz, you said that "You must be the same cats thinking that every single AND1 streetball player could dominate the NBA. Unorthodox style......eff outta here
and "I will never consider him a real boxer." which is equivalent to saying that any fighter that doesn't have a textbook style isn't a "real boxer." That is simply false. To back my claim, I brought up Roy Jones Jr. and Pernell Whitaker, two fighters with unorthodox styles who routinely boxed guys ears off in their respective primes. Never once did I compare Hamed to an All-Time Great such as Sweet Pea. And since it's obvious that you aren't capable of reading for understanding, I will copy and paste a quote from one of my respons[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]es. "I never referred to him as a pure boxer in the mold of a Sugar Ray Robinson, Pernell Whitaker or Floyd Mayweather Jr., so I'm not sure where the "real" boxer part came from. Hamed was who the "him" was referring to.[/font]
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calibeebee
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I'm sorry I didn't mean to imply that any fighter that has an unorthodox style isn't a real boxer. That would be ludicrous, which is why I never said that. I meant that being unorthodox was not his only problem and in his specific case, I didn't consider that an upside. In my opinion, the level of competition he faced most of his career was lacking, and he was exposed shortly after he finally started fighting outside of England. He was not quick enough to fight with his hands down man. It may have looked that way against lesser competition but thats it. You mentioned the Kevin Kelley fight, but failed to mention that Hamed was also knocked down 3 times himself in that fight.
That's like saying Willis Reed and Larry Bird were both left handed players in the NBA so left handed players can succeed. And in no way am I comparing them to Jalen Rose, who used his left hand also.
I do question it, it's that simple. I just disagree with you man.
That's like saying Willis Reed and Larry Bird were both left handed players in the NBA so left handed players can succeed. And in no way am I comparing them to Jalen Rose, who used his left hand also.
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Anyways............back to videos so we can be entertained and laugh....
I miss Pedro.
I miss Pedro.
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Zab had so much potential. Speed, quickness, power, nice jab, amazing left uppercut. Too bad his heart is the size of a Gusher.
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In his career Muhammed Ali got floored by Sonny Banks, Henry Cooper and Chuck Wepner, aka a bunch of journeyman. It happens in boxing.
Naseem had a high risk style, he fought hands down, he was a switch hitter (orthodox and southpaw) and alot of his offense was based around baiting his opponent to throw (with his chin exposed) and then countering. That's not something anybody could pull off, it's like walking a tightrope, so it's pretty wild to talk like he's a bum cause he lost a decision to Barrera? Barerra also beat Erik Morales in his prime, twice, he's an all time great at that weight class.
As for the Willis, Larry and Jalen comparison, yeah Willis and Larry were much better players, but anybody that knows basketball would never fix their mouth to say Jalen is "not a real baller", unless they were just a hater. The idea of being "not a real boxer" and doing what Hamed did is ridiculous. If you said overrated I could understand that, his accomplishments were kinda overshadowed by his flashiness and personality. If you didn't like his style and thought he was too arrogant, that's fair enough too. But "minimally talented" and "not a real boxer"? Eh. That's hating. No disrespect, but I would assume that you would fit in the category of minimally talented and not a real boxer, and I put money you wouldn't last a single round with Hamed or any of his opponents. I've trained with talented amateurs, golden gloves fighters that would wreck the average minimally talented guy, and yet they probably wouldn't have lasted 12 rounds with Hamed. Your definition of minimal talent is a little off I think. He wasn't the greatest for sure, but there's some hate in your analysis.
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Knew that Will Bynum punch was gonna end up in here
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Lol at will...ever so subtle get that shot in
Also, just noticed it was pacers/pistons in Detroit. Can there ever be peace?!?
Also, just noticed it was pacers/pistons in Detroit. Can there ever be peace?!?
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Mike's got quotables for days
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