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Where are you getting "easy" from? No where in his response did he say it would be easy.
Citizens revolt in Ukraine vol. live
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I don't see what type of mindset you have to have to see your "people", your countrymen suffering and be able to completely block it out / look the other way. Money and power are a dangerous thing for those ill-equipped to handle them
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Dude is riding like he has a vendetta or something.
Get the dirt off your shoulders pimp.
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instead of attacking my opinion of the situation... you focus on how I addressed you and how I used an incorrect term...
That's cool and all... but I want to talk about how tearing down the government/political structure will not work in the favor of ukraine in the long run.. especially with it being in russian interest to control the direction of any new government
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Completely destroying one government and replacing it with another government? Hard?
Whether it's good for a country, not named USA...that's a completely different issue.
Whether it's good for a country, not named USA...that's a completely different issue.
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There isn't a need for me to attack your opinion; I respect that you feel that way and I'm not trying to convince you to see things differently. I addressed the way you worded your question because you took what he said out of context. I read his reply and then yours and didn't understand how you reached the conclusion that it would be easy. I don't know how deep your knowledge of the subject goes, but I can tell you that there are 3 sides to this crisis and it's quite complicated.
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This is bad, people in the Armed Forces should be scared.
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so you'll debate the semantics of my argument...but when it comes to actually stating an opinion on the subject and adding to the discussion of the thread.... you are not willing?
why even bother typing to me at all?
two posts directed to me... neither having to do with the subject at hand!?!?!
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I'm not going to front, I lowkey wish us American citizens had the balls to do this. :\
Have these corrupt politicians shook, y'all work for the people the people don't work for you.
Have these corrupt politicians shook, y'all work for the people the people don't work for you.
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Peaceful protest is what we've decided was right. We value life to much here, which I think is dumb, whats the point of being a live if you never get to live?I'm not going to front, I lowkey wish us American citizens had the balls to do this.
Have these corrupt politicians shook, y'all work for the people the people don't work for you.
I hope when i die, I die for something.
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Yeah but what happens when we're not allowed to protest anymore?
The government swear we don't see how they're slowly taking our right to protest away. (Cough)Occupy Wall Street(Cough)
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1. In LA the occupy protests went on for weeks, people were camping on federal property... no violence... no rights violated at least that I know of...
2. What was the plan behind the occupy protests?
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We'll tweet about on our Iphones about how bad the government is treating us...
People tweet, from their iphone, about the conditions of Apple factories in China....I don't know where the line is, short of the police coming into your house and taking your laptop, these cats won't do anything, cats is pie.
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Crazy
Some pics that the youtube MustangWanted took
http://mustang-wanted.com/blog/i_went_for_a_walk_and_came_back_after_20_hours
Pic heavy
Some pics that the youtube MustangWanted took
http://mustang-wanted.com/blog/i_went_for_a_walk_and_came_back_after_20_hours
Pic heavy
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ukrainian president abdicated his post and fled ....meanwhile
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all black car fleet
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http://knlive.ctvnews.ca/a-mansion-...s-home-of-sports-cars-and-ostriches-1.1701779
more importantly, how do you vote for a dude who spent over 30.5 on lamps? all while accepting aid packages from russia and the eu
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all black car fleet
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http://knlive.ctvnews.ca/a-mansion-...s-home-of-sports-cars-and-ostriches-1.1701779
more importantly, how do you vote for a dude who spent over 30.5 on lamps? all while accepting aid packages from russia and the eu
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Gunmen seize government buildings in Ukraine's Crimea
KIEV, Ukraine -- Gunmen early Thursday captured the parliament and Cabinet buildings in Simferopol, the capital of Ukraine's autonomous republic of Crimea, an official said.
Ukraine lawmaker and Crimea native Andrei Semchenko told The Times that two units of gunmen struck about 5:30 a.m. He described the men as wearing camouflage clothing and "armed to the teeth, including heavy machine guns."
“They used a couple of stun grenades to break in and pushed the police guards stationed inside out into the street," Semchenko said. "They acted very professionally and seemed to be fully aware of the location of offices and infrastructure in both buildings.”
Semchenko said the attackers spoke Russian. The number of the attackers deployed inside the Cabinet building was about 50 and those in the parliament building numbered about 70, Semchenko said.
“We have no reports of fire exchange or casualties resulting from the attack,” he said. “It looked like a meticulously planned and organized special force operation.”
Semchenko refrained from speculating who the attackers may be, but the UNIAN news agency reported that Ukraine's interim government called in a Russian envoy and demanded immediate consultations with Russia over the Crimea situation.
In the meantime, ousted Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovich asked Russia to provide security for him, UNIAN reported. Yanukovich still considers himself Ukraine's legitimate president and charges that "extremists" captured power, plunging the nation into "lawlessness," the report said.
"I am convinced that under these conditions, all the decisions [of the interim government] will soon prove inefficient and will not be implemented," Yanukovich was quoted as saying.
Some experts believe that Yanukovich is already in Moscow.
Crimea has an ethnic Russian majority and is home to many who oppose Ukraine's new political leadership following the ouster of Yanukovich on Saturday.
The attackers who captured the government buildings in the Crimean capital told the Russian daily Izvestia that they demand a referendum on whether the Crimean peninsula should remain in Ukraine or become part of Russia.
Russia recently pledged not to interfere in Ukraine's internal affairs but has a sizable armed contingent in the Crimea. The republic houses the Russian Black Sea fleet in the port of Sevastopol, whose population is predominantly Russian. There are also several military support installations and bases across the peninsula under command of the Russian navy.
To prevent bloodshed among civilians, the government district in Simferopol was taken under police protection, Ukraine's acting interior minister, Arsen Avakov, said in statement posted on his Facebook page.
“We have undertaken a number of other measures to halt the development of extremist actions and to prevent the situation from deteriorating into an armed confrontation in the center of the city,” Avakov wrote in his post. “It is the time for a cool head, consolidation of healthy forces and for acting with precision.”
Avakov said Ukraine's police, loyal to the new government, and Interior Ministry troops were on red alert. He called the attackers “provocateurs” but wouldn't specify what actions his agency was taking.
Ukraine's acting president, Oleksander Turchinov, addressed the Russian navy command and demanded their forces in Ukraine stay confined to their bases. “Any movement of [Russian navy] forces outside, especially if they are armed, will be considered a military aggression against Ukraine.”
Crimea Premier Anatoly Mogilev said the attackers called themselves “the protectors of the Russian people” but said they were not authorized to negotiate, a statement on the regional government's website said.
After 10 a.m., the attackers suddenly began to let Crimean lawmakers in to take part in a parliament session, UNIAN reported.
The attackers raised Russian national flags over both buildings.
“I have information that several armored personnel vehicles were heading toward Simferepol,” Refat Chubarov, head of the Crimean Tatar community, said in a phone interview with The Times. “I asked our community people to stay calm and not to succumb to provocations.”
Chubarov was in charge of organizing a protest Wednesday in front of Crimea's parliament building, during which Crimean Tatars and Ukrainians clashed with ethnic Russians who demanded Russian military assistance and the secession of Crimea from Ukraine.
City medical authorities said two people died and about 30 were injured in the clashes.
“Witnesses say they have seen several Russian armored personnel carriers moving toward Simferopol from the Russian navy base at the village of Gvardeyskoye [not far from the capital],” Maxim Koshelev, a reporter with Inter, a private television network, said in a phone interview with The Times. Gvardeyskoye serves as a base and airstrip for the Russian navy in the Crimea, he said.
http://www.latimes.com/world/worldn...crimea-20140227,0,5531577.story#ixzz2uWrpX2kp
KIEV, Ukraine -- Gunmen early Thursday captured the parliament and Cabinet buildings in Simferopol, the capital of Ukraine's autonomous republic of Crimea, an official said.
Ukraine lawmaker and Crimea native Andrei Semchenko told The Times that two units of gunmen struck about 5:30 a.m. He described the men as wearing camouflage clothing and "armed to the teeth, including heavy machine guns."
“They used a couple of stun grenades to break in and pushed the police guards stationed inside out into the street," Semchenko said. "They acted very professionally and seemed to be fully aware of the location of offices and infrastructure in both buildings.”
Semchenko said the attackers spoke Russian. The number of the attackers deployed inside the Cabinet building was about 50 and those in the parliament building numbered about 70, Semchenko said.
“We have no reports of fire exchange or casualties resulting from the attack,” he said. “It looked like a meticulously planned and organized special force operation.”
Semchenko refrained from speculating who the attackers may be, but the UNIAN news agency reported that Ukraine's interim government called in a Russian envoy and demanded immediate consultations with Russia over the Crimea situation.
In the meantime, ousted Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovich asked Russia to provide security for him, UNIAN reported. Yanukovich still considers himself Ukraine's legitimate president and charges that "extremists" captured power, plunging the nation into "lawlessness," the report said.
"I am convinced that under these conditions, all the decisions [of the interim government] will soon prove inefficient and will not be implemented," Yanukovich was quoted as saying.
Some experts believe that Yanukovich is already in Moscow.
Crimea has an ethnic Russian majority and is home to many who oppose Ukraine's new political leadership following the ouster of Yanukovich on Saturday.
The attackers who captured the government buildings in the Crimean capital told the Russian daily Izvestia that they demand a referendum on whether the Crimean peninsula should remain in Ukraine or become part of Russia.
Russia recently pledged not to interfere in Ukraine's internal affairs but has a sizable armed contingent in the Crimea. The republic houses the Russian Black Sea fleet in the port of Sevastopol, whose population is predominantly Russian. There are also several military support installations and bases across the peninsula under command of the Russian navy.
To prevent bloodshed among civilians, the government district in Simferopol was taken under police protection, Ukraine's acting interior minister, Arsen Avakov, said in statement posted on his Facebook page.
“We have undertaken a number of other measures to halt the development of extremist actions and to prevent the situation from deteriorating into an armed confrontation in the center of the city,” Avakov wrote in his post. “It is the time for a cool head, consolidation of healthy forces and for acting with precision.”
Avakov said Ukraine's police, loyal to the new government, and Interior Ministry troops were on red alert. He called the attackers “provocateurs” but wouldn't specify what actions his agency was taking.
Ukraine's acting president, Oleksander Turchinov, addressed the Russian navy command and demanded their forces in Ukraine stay confined to their bases. “Any movement of [Russian navy] forces outside, especially if they are armed, will be considered a military aggression against Ukraine.”
Crimea Premier Anatoly Mogilev said the attackers called themselves “the protectors of the Russian people” but said they were not authorized to negotiate, a statement on the regional government's website said.
After 10 a.m., the attackers suddenly began to let Crimean lawmakers in to take part in a parliament session, UNIAN reported.
The attackers raised Russian national flags over both buildings.
“I have information that several armored personnel vehicles were heading toward Simferepol,” Refat Chubarov, head of the Crimean Tatar community, said in a phone interview with The Times. “I asked our community people to stay calm and not to succumb to provocations.”
Chubarov was in charge of organizing a protest Wednesday in front of Crimea's parliament building, during which Crimean Tatars and Ukrainians clashed with ethnic Russians who demanded Russian military assistance and the secession of Crimea from Ukraine.
City medical authorities said two people died and about 30 were injured in the clashes.
“Witnesses say they have seen several Russian armored personnel carriers moving toward Simferopol from the Russian navy base at the village of Gvardeyskoye [not far from the capital],” Maxim Koshelev, a reporter with Inter, a private television network, said in a phone interview with The Times. Gvardeyskoye serves as a base and airstrip for the Russian navy in the Crimea, he said.
http://www.latimes.com/world/worldn...crimea-20140227,0,5531577.story#ixzz2uWrpX2kp
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Russian spec ops sent to retrieve/destroy sensitive information that may be incriminating/classified
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Russian military blocking airports in the Crimean region. Ukrainian interior minister calling it an occupation and invasion.
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What's interesting to me is Russia, considering the territories given to Ukraine by Yeltsin post USSR. Keep an eye on them making a play for that.
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They already have.
60 russians have taken control of the Crimean parliament building and have said they are "waiting for orders"
People already suspect Putin been plottin since the jump.
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didn't know it was at that point already, had to have been plotting from the jump
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cold war times again seems like.
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