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**CHIEF KEEF**
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Call it how I see itthats a sucka comment
Rap fans don't know what they want
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I'm lowkey wit u tho. NT is the main place I see dudes say they can't listen to certain music cuz it's not authentic and dudes ain't real. Then u got dudes not wanting to listen to this **** cuz these lil ****** too real. I n ain't even mad at them dudes tho, the older I get I do feel kind of stupid listening to so much of this kinda ****. That blue eyed soul thread had me off of rap for a minute anyway
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The difference is...these are children. Not grown *** men. IMO...like I said earlier...it's even more embarrassing when you have MEN old enough to be some of these Chicago kid's fathers rapping about **** that they NEVER were apart of.
Ignorance is ignorance. When it's coming from ignorant children...you understand why. When it's coming from someone like Rick Ross...who when he speaks in interviews...CLEARLY possesses some form of intelligence...it's an extra slap in the face.
The saddest thing...is that the biggest consumer of this type of music...is the suburban white teen. They buy the albums on itunes...go to the Keef and Ross shows...and then go to college. When it's our youth...who looks up to these ****** and hang on to everything they say and do. If ya'll don't see anything wrong with that I don't know what to tell you.
Hell...go on Rondo's IG page right now. You'll probably see some kid from Duluth, MN leaving a comment on his page that says "F--- the opps, free Rondo. GDK". Then go on his page and you'll see him in photos taking selfies during his graduation rehearsal. **** is all ****** up.
Ignorance is ignorance. When it's coming from ignorant children...you understand why. When it's coming from someone like Rick Ross...who when he speaks in interviews...CLEARLY possesses some form of intelligence...it's an extra slap in the face.
The saddest thing...is that the biggest consumer of this type of music...is the suburban white teen. They buy the albums on itunes...go to the Keef and Ross shows...and then go to college. When it's our youth...who looks up to these ****** and hang on to everything they say and do. If ya'll don't see anything wrong with that I don't know what to tell you.
Hell...go on Rondo's IG page right now. You'll probably see some kid from Duluth, MN leaving a comment on his page that says "F--- the opps, free Rondo. GDK". Then go on his page and you'll see him in photos taking selfies during his graduation rehearsal. **** is all ****** up.
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I always shake my head when I see this nonsense.
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This is pure, unadulterated truth right here.
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Dude really edited his post
Yes it's disrespectful and harmful when someone who hasn't lived that life is promoting the pollution of minds for $ and other factors and essentially damaging the minds of black youth and their community. A metaphorical crack sale.
But I'm referring to the listeners not the messengers. Whether we are listening to Rondo or Rick Ross, we are filling our minds with similar ignorant ideas. If someone didn't commit the crimes and is rapping about it, oh he isn't real blah blah. If someone is rapping about it and it comes to the light that they actually are doing it, oh he's dumb blah blah.
All that stuff is negative either way. The messed up part is that children don't have much other options, they are conditioned like that from the get go, they believe this stuff is normal. And all of us are hypocrites, cause as much as we talk about how wrong it is, we are listening to the music.
Hiphop culture deems gangstas to be cool. So these white kids assume it's cool and from the safety of their computer screens, promote and support that foolish they are not apart of.
If we as a culture deemed this ignorance as lame, you think these suburban kids would be rockin with it the same?
Yes it's disrespectful and harmful when someone who hasn't lived that life is promoting the pollution of minds for $ and other factors and essentially damaging the minds of black youth and their community. A metaphorical crack sale.
But I'm referring to the listeners not the messengers. Whether we are listening to Rondo or Rick Ross, we are filling our minds with similar ignorant ideas. If someone didn't commit the crimes and is rapping about it, oh he isn't real blah blah. If someone is rapping about it and it comes to the light that they actually are doing it, oh he's dumb blah blah.
All that stuff is negative either way. The messed up part is that children don't have much other options, they are conditioned like that from the get go, they believe this stuff is normal. And all of us are hypocrites, cause as much as we talk about how wrong it is, we are listening to the music.
Hiphop culture deems gangstas to be cool. So these white kids assume it's cool and from the safety of their computer screens, promote and support that foolish they are not apart of.
If we as a culture deemed this ignorance as lame, you think these suburban kids would be rockin with it the same?
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I agree with the first part kinda.
When Beans got in trouble...I remember SO many people in here talking about how dumb he was. He got in trouble...being the SAME person he was in his raps...which is what those same people that criticized him...admired him for.
Man sooner or later...as fans of the culture...we're going to have to take a real good look in the mirror and figure out how to take control of our culture back...away from the corporate puppet masters that dictate what's hot and what's not. We're going to have to figure out a way to be "cool" that doesn't involve promoting ********.
There HAS to be something in between a Chief Keef and a Drake. Someone that has the ears of the youth in the streets and in the burbs. Pac was on his way but they got him out the paint EARLY. Pac really was trying to make change from within. He understood that he had to use that gangster image to reach who he needed to reach.
It's a LARGE hole to climb out of. Right now...there's no way to take that "trap" sound and NOT be ignorant with it. So much of that sound is married to ignorance that it's hard to fathom how you can have people turn up and put a message behind it.
The Devil is one clever ************. I'll give him that.
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Pac
He was really the last hope. Of course they had to eliminate him. Isn't that the outcome of every powerful voice promoting change?
After his death, the commercialization of hip hop really exploded. The bling era as they call it.
I guess Lupe is recently trying to use that trap sound and have a message, but no one takes him serious with his condescending self
I'll leave this here
He was really the last hope. Of course they had to eliminate him. Isn't that the outcome of every powerful voice promoting change?
After his death, the commercialization of hip hop really exploded. The bling era as they call it.
I guess Lupe is recently trying to use that trap sound and have a message, but no one takes him serious with his condescending self
I'll leave this here
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Realist **** I've read in a minute especially that last paragraph. Your definitely my favorite poster on NT right now bro +rep
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man enough wit the Pac was gone change the game crap....i hear it all the time, dude was talented but he still made music like Hit Em Up...and we all saw the video of the fight that happened in Vegas.
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$tacy
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The funny part is one of my homies was like, reese killed jojo bro i got proof. Said homeboy isn't twitter savy and pulled a tweet he saw some here with a gun avi and the name 300 gdk squad **** or something of that nature. I search the name and low and behold it's a old lance bass looking boy, I mean blonde hair blue eyes and he was from wisconsin. I jus shook my head and ain't eem wanna tell son.
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Yes indeed, some priveledged kids were claiming a gang out in NJ. They thought they got a pass because they thought some of my friends were theirs. It's weird man.
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You clearly missed the point.
Pac played a character he had to portray to reach who he needed to. Change starts from within. You can't reverse someone's thinking as an outsider (see Lupe).
If you knew ANYTHING about Pac and where he came from and who raised him you would understand perfectly what he was trying to do.
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Right now it's probably the folks over at TDE. I see them more as observers than participators, at least with the violence. Sure, Backseat Freestyle and Maad City are reckless, but they have context within a concept album. Kendrick is recalling his younger days in a volatile environment, painting a picture.
Call it how I see it
Rap fans don't know what they want
thats a sucka comment
This is actually true. I just got done ripping on Ross to my roommate because "he has really never done any of the things he raps about" to such an extravagant level of lying, it's soooo much fiction.
But then that leads me to wonder about other rappers. What about Pusha T? He has some lines that are thoughtful and remorseful, but it's 80% bragging about coke sales from the early-mid 90s and the money he made from it. And who knows how much of that is all true.
A$AP Rocky has some gang banging elements, but he leans towards a lot of party lyrics as well. Kanye is just a brilliant weirdo with no filter, nothing he says bothers me. Jay-Z is another guy banking off coke stories from 1993, and it's past old. J. Cole might be among the most honest ones, I just hate that "f*ggot" line from the first track on Born Sinner more than anything I've heard in a long time. Big KRIT is a good old southern boy.
At the end of the day, though, none of these more mainstream rappers come close to the message that Chief Keef and this crowd is SO BLATANTLY expressing. For the rappers above, it's almost all past tense besides that idiot Ross. Drill rappers are telling you exactly how they operate — and how you should operate, too — if you want to make money and survive.
If I don't like you, I will shoot you.
All of my friends have guns and will shoot you too.
That's how we solve problems here.
That's the explicit message that is so disturbing when you see the exact violence they are bragging about popping up on the news or in the papers. It's hard for me to explain... but I don't blame Pusha T if someone gets caught up with some white. I can draw a clear link between Keef music and Chicago killings. No, he didn't pull the trigger, but he is perpetuating this horrible trend.
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The other thing that clearly separates what these drill rappers in Chicago are doing versus what run-of-the-mill street-oriented rappers do all the time is that these guys aren't speaking in generalities or in abstract terms. They're talking about real people by name saying they're going to kill them and blatantly mocking dead rivals by name. When these dudes say stuff like "smokin' on some Zeko" (as I saw posted a couple of pages ago), they're gloating about the violent death of an actual 18 year old human being. The guys doing this are generally 15-21, and the people they are talking about are generally 15-21. We're talking about kids here.
How on earth do grown men with any semblance of intelligence and empathy listen to this stuff? How are y'all not bothered by this?
How on earth do grown men with any semblance of intelligence and empathy listen to this stuff? How are y'all not bothered by this?
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dont mean to throw off the social consciousness going on in this thread right now but
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That song is terrible
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You trippin. Sosa back 
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Y'all probably same cats that listen to lil herb repetitive self dude is all hype 
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Y'all probably same cats that listen to lil herb repetitive self dude is all hype
you know you're in a chief keef thread right?" i think calling anyone repetitive is off limits fam none of these boys are the definition of diverse
but seriously there was nothing good about that **** rehab joint
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**** Rehab is dope
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Keef reminds me of OJ Mayo
Peaked way too early
Peaked way too early
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