Bulls offseason Thread

[coldcity]

Here comes the old shtick about the FO again. Wake me up when summer's over, this thread is 90% *****ing about GarPax. Yeah, let's just trade them for Joe Dumars or John Hammond.

We could add the 16th and 19th picks to our team, Mirotic, and a healthy Rose to a squad that won 48 games, get the #1 seed in the East and you mogs will be complaining about waiving Mike James to avoid the luxury tax. I wonder what it'd be like if you guys were Knicks or Bucks fans for the past decade, you'd probably quit watching basketball.

This thread is insufferable. It really is.

& HE WAS CHEAP WTF CHICAGO !

Obviously they're putting all their eggs in the Melo basket.

Other teams have been interested in Afflalo...other teams could have offered virtually the same thing...yet they're free from criticism and our FO is being lambasted? Oh ok.

Any success the FO has is somehow null and void by dumbass excuses. "Oh but they were gifted Rose..." dude we could have had Michael ******* Beasley. They did their due diligence to choose the right player (I guess draft success and picking players who aren't busts isn't a hallmark of a good front office). Imagine how many years that would have set us back. You would have thought we were a consistent lottery team the way people talk in this thread. We're not the Cubs damn it.

affalo being cheap shuts down all three of your post's bro

the fo was on arons *** & they shouldve got it done if all it took was evan & a crap pick period.

we WERE gifted rose but that means absoulety nothing right now(especially since i havent seen ANYONE say that dumb ish inside of this thread) because were speaking of a missed opp to get a bomb player for damn near nothing ...one who could give derrick rest & we wont have to worry. what dont you see about that?

ive watched some pretty bad bulls basketball over the years i doubt anything will get me to stop watching outside of gar or pax coming midcourt in a klan fit

the point of the thread is to talk about whats current & thats whats happening if you dont like it come back in sept before the season starts srs

 

[captainsneakerhead23]

& HE WAS CHEAP WTF CHICAGO !

Obviously they're putting all their eggs in the Melo basket.

Other teams have been interested in Afflalo...other teams could have offered virtually the same thing...yet they're free from criticism and our FO is being lambasted? Oh ok.

Obviously if you've been following, we could've had Affalo AND Melo .. maybe you really should stay sleep until the summer is over.

 

[illmatic34]

affalo being cheap shuts down all three of your post's bro

the fo was on arons *** & they shouldve got it done if all it took was evan & a crap pick period.

we WERE gifted rose but that means absoulety nothing right now(especially since i havent seen ANYONE say that dumb ish inside of this thread) because were speaking of a missed opp to get a bomb player for damn near nothing ...one who could give derrick rest & we wont have to worry. what dont you see about that?

ive watched some pretty bad bulls basketball over the years i doubt anything will get me to stop watching outside of gar or pax coming midcourt in a klan fit

the point of the thread is to talk about whats current & thats whats happening if you dont like it come back in sept before the season starts srs

No it doesn't. Why didn't any other team pull off that trade then? If we didn't pull the trigger for Afflalo, that obviously means the FO is confident in their ability to nab Melo...NEWSFLASH, Afflalo is an expiring player making 7 million. We would not have the cap space to bring Melo over and if we made the move for Afflalo you people would still complain "Oh he's great but we're not getting Melo/Love so what's the point in this offseason" and that is the damn truth.

I cited Rose as an example of how people discredit EVERYTHING our FO does...we got lucky and won the lottery but somehow there's no credit given to the FO when they made the right choice of Rose over Beasley. They got Rose, Noah, and Thibs and that alone has made the team competitive the past 3/4 years EVEN with Rose suffering his injuries. Thibs and Noah are easily some of the most coveted assets in the league who many teams would love to acquire and yet all I hear is *****ing and moaning.

 

[illmatic34]

Obviously if you've been following, we could've had Affalo AND Melo .. maybe you really should stay sleep until the summer is over.

Have you crunched the numbers, have you done the math, and do you have any proof to show me that this was possible?

 

[coldcity]

Obviously if you've been following, we could've had Affalo AND Melo .. maybe you really should stay sleep until the summer is over.

Have you crunched the numbers, have you done the math, and do you have any proof to show me that this was possible?

its highly possible(was at least) read back thru the last couple pgs fam

 

[captainsneakerhead23]

Obviously if you've been following, we could've had Affalo AND Melo .. maybe you really should stay sleep until the summer is over.

Have you crunched the numbers, have you done the math, and do you have any proof to show me that this was possible?

First scenario presented our way:

Possible 3 team trade between Bulls, Knicks, and Magic:

Bulls receive: Carmelo Anthony in sign-and-trade and Arron Afflalo

Magic receive: Carlos Boozer, Jimmy Butler, Bulls' 2015 1st round pick, and the Kings' protected pick

Knicks receive: Jameer Nelson, Tony Snell, Mike Dunleavy, Nikola Mirotic, non-guaranteed deals of Ronnie Brewer and Mike James.

Now my question to you is do you really think we're going to be able to just outright sign Melo? I sure as hell don't so the only shot we have is a sign and trade.

Second scenario presented our way:

Bulls receive: Arron Affalo

Orlando receive: Tony Snell and a future 1st rd pick

Our FO declined that offer according to reports.

 

[illmatic34]

its highly possible(was at least) read back thru the last couple pgs fam

Why the hell would the Knicks do that trade, especially with no draft picks involved at all?

Mirotic and cap relief for Melo? Yeah OK...PJax is not an idiot.

This is not NBA 2K.

 

[illmatic34]

First scenario presented our way:

Possible 3 team trade between Bulls, Knicks, and Magic:

Bulls receive: Carmelo Anthony in sign-and-trade and Arron Afflalo

Magic receive: Carlos Boozer, Jimmy Butler, Bulls' 2015 1st round pick, and the Kings' protected pick

Knicks receive: Jameer Nelson, Tony Snell, Mike Dunleavy, Nikola Mirotic, non-guaranteed deals of Ronnie Brewer and Mike James.

Now my question to you is do you really think we're going to be able to just outright sign Melo? I sure as hell don't so the only shot we have is a sign and trade.

Second scenario presented our way:

Bulls receive: Arron Affalo

Orlando receive: Tony Snell and a future 1st rd pick

Our FO declined that offer according to reports.

Why wouldn't we be able to sign him outright? If Boozer is amnestied and Taj is traded for cap relief, we can offer him quite a bit.

And what is your source that they declined that offer?

 

[coldcity]

First scenario presented our way:

Possible 3 team trade between Bulls, Knicks, and Magic:

Bulls receive: Carmelo Anthony in sign-and-trade and Arron Afflalo

Magic receive: Carlos Boozer, Jimmy Butler, Bulls' 2015 1st round pick, and the Kings' protected pick

Knicks receive: Jameer Nelson, Tony Snell, Mike Dunleavy, Nikola Mirotic, non-guaranteed deals of Ronnie Brewer and Mike James.

Now my question to you is do you really think we're going to be able to just outright sign Melo? I sure as hell don't so the only shot we have is a sign and trade.

Second scenario presented our way:

Bulls receive: Arron Affalo

Orlando receive: Tony Snell and a future 1st rd pick

Our FO declined that offer according to reports.

Why wouldn't we be able to sign him outright? If Boozer is amnestied and Taj is traded for cap relief, we can offer him quite a bit.

And what is your source that they declined that offer?

taj wouldnt be moved in that situation only jimmy
signing him outright is a dream seriously i really think the only option is s&t

 

[captainsneakerhead23]

illmatic34 You ask for proof on how we could obtain Affalo AND Melo at the same time, I provide a trade proposal that was discussed by the 3 teams, now you're saying it this isn't 2K? That was the beginning stages of the deal, pretty sure more picks and players would've been involved.

What makes you think we're giving up Taj? It's been said multiple times that we want Melo without having to give up Taj. Giving up Taj and throwing Mirotic into the fire isn't the direction we really want to go in.

Yahoo was my source.

 

[arstyle27]

I went from very positive. ...to super negative......i expect nothing to happen now....Boozer wont be amnestied....no Melo no love no Afflalo...no nobody....Derrick and Miritoc and a couple of rookies.....sigh

 

[captainsneakerhead23]

Boozer is good as gone, no matter what happens. When he decided to speak out about his 4th quarter playing time that pretty much sealed the deal, can't see us bringing him back.

I agree though, Rose and the foreigner plus our 2 picks

 

[illmatic34]

illmatic34 You ask for proof on how we could obtain Affalo AND Melo at the same time, I provide a trade proposal that was discussed by the 3 teams, now you're saying it this isn't 2K? That was the beginning stages of the deal, pretty sure more picks and players would've been involved.

What makes you think we're giving up Taj? It's been said multiple times that we want Melo without having to give up Taj. Giving up Taj and throwing Mirotic into the fire isn't the direction we really want to go in.

Yahoo was my source.

That is predicated solely on the belief Melo would go to that team...he is still undecided at this point. That's why moving him in a deal like this is unlikely right now, especially before the draft AND FA. Adding more picks (talking mostly about tonight's draft) is tricky because you would have to pick players that the Knicks would like.

If Melo is unwilling to accept the amount the Bulls are offering with Taj on the roster, I can definitely see them dumping Taj to sign Melo outright. But that's dependent on how much Melo is willing to take, and if the reports are true he would take less to play for a contender, then that's obviously a moot point.

 

[bonez7]

We should just try and get 7"5 Simple Bullar..possibility???

If Melo wants to play here and thats his decision..I don't see fo not doing everything possible to get him excluding rose n noah...why is that not a possibility now??

Minny reported waiting till after melo lands to make any K.love decisions so why is that out now???

I never got my hopes up, too much heartbreak..just staying optimistic cause you guys know last minute EVERYTHING can change in FA..

 

[grusumm18]

We should just try and get 7"5 Simple Bullar..possibility???

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might as well draft isiah austin then

 

[bonez7]

He's 7"5?... 7"5.

You seen our struggle to get a single rebound to save life with Washington??

Could be Yao one day down the line...
Fundamentals can be taught over time..
These rookies aren't doing anything immediately for us

 

[grusumm18]

He's 7"5?... 7"5.

You seen our struggle to get a single rebound to save life with Washington??

Could be Yao one day down the line...
Fundamentals can be taught over time..
These rookies aren't doing anything immediately for us

you seen him try to get a board?
sadly, i watched some state games, not just the tourney...he cant run for >2m

from draftx

Bhullar was only an average defensive rebounder despite his size, posting 7.5 rebounds per 40 minutes pace adjusted. This is because he is only able to rebound balls directly in his area and is not quick or vertical enough to fight for loose balls that bounce away from him. While he will continue to be able to be the first to get to rebounds that drop near him, his inability to track down rebounds outside his area will likely prevent him from becoming an elite rebounder until he improves his conditioning level.

 

[bonez7]

Asik was nothing but a dead body when he came in to the league...
look at him now

We got a 49 pick right? Why not?

This kid is not a bust..no way..he's going late but whoever pulls the trigger..after a year in the d league there going to have an asset



Asik an athlete?? Ok I see what I'm dealing with now.. need not reply

 

[grusumm18]

asik was an athlete...dude actually had some chase downs in europe!

this guy, umm...no

 

[albooboo]

Asik was nothing but a dead body when he came in to the league...
look at him now

We got a 49 pick right? Why not?

This kid is not a bust..no way..he's going late but whoever pulls the trigger..after a year in the d league there going to have an asset



Asik an athlete?? Ok I see what I'm dealing with now.. need not reply

with the 49th pick he's worth a shot. I would rather have him than Narz Mohammed.

 

[kevlar shrimp]

Afflalo got traded to Denver 

 

[kal-el-8]

 
Afflalo got traded to Denver 

 

[Air273]

i dont get the Afflalo trade at all,....clearly the bulls don't want to trade for him now as he is in the bulls eyes the boozer of the 2014 free agency/trade market....A. Bron, B. Melo. C. Love D. Affalo .....the magic are crazy for doing the trade so soon. why not wait until you see what happens with the bulls, you might have been able to get Snell and whoever the bulls drafted at 19 tonight. bad job by the GM

 

[grusumm18]

Sam Amick @sam_amick · 2m
I'm told Doug McDermott will head to Chicago via trade with Denver. Getting more details now.


ok for both
16/19

 

[bigmike23]

happy with getting dougie