Black Culture Discussion Thread

[layziegunts]

Something that bothers me is that the 2 richest black men in America married white women.

If y’all don’t have a problem with that, especially when it deals with the psyche of our brothers, then I don’t know what else is there to say.

Some dude gonna be like “but Jordan married a black woman first!”

 

[tokes99]

To me being pro-black is living your life to not only seeing your family do well, but also your race.

As I said before, WE ARE AT THE BOTTOM of all social and economic indexes. We need to have a better approach as a people to strengthen our community like other groups of people. Enslavement and colonization have left our people in a terrible shape and it’s easy for us to believe we need to depend on others for our salvation.

All other groups of people, have strong cultural ties that they don’t want to give up and they practice great group economics.

When I was talking about marrying a black woman, I said it because as a black man there is no greater commitment to your people that marrying a beautiful black woman. That mean she can be 100% African from the continent or of mixed background (like most of us are) as long as she is black.

I don’t get what’s so hard about that to grasp

it isn't, it is actually very simplistic and that is my point...don't really disagree with most of those things (creating & preserving cultural ties, group economics, strengthening community, modeling is probably more direct if your examples look like you, etc.) in principle just don't think it is literally that clear cut 1:1 relationship from who someone loves to their being 'pro-black'; there is no nuance...it is such a superficial metric

 

[layziegunts]

tokes99 im not saying marrying a black
woman makes you pro-black.

What I’m saying is to be pro-black you have to marry a black woman.

Make sense?

 

[pmpdaddyrobford]

Isn't there some hate group that don't want race's to mix too?

 

[tomdiginson]

Something that bothers me is that the 2 richest black men in America married white women.

If y’all don’t have a problem with that, especially when it deals with the psyche of our brothers, then I don’t know what else is there to say.

Some dude gonna be like “but Jordan married a black woman first!”

Correction, both were married to black women.Jordan been about his money and never gave a **** about black issues from the jump so, you even worrying about who he's married to at this point is mute. While I agree that both men seemed to have gotten duped into marrying white women, doesn't mean I know the setup of their marriage, so I have no interest in pocket watching and speculating on what will happen to their money if they were to die. Keying in on Smith, he at least is investing money where it counts. He's donated 10's of millions to
the Smithsonian's National Museum of African American History and Culture(second largest donor behind Opera). He's launched a fellowship program on supporting black female students at Cornell’s College of Engineering. He's funding the education for the girls who were kidnapped and released by Bokoharam. Gave $2.5 million to the Prostate Cancer Foundation to focus research on African-American men and aid veterans who are battling prostate cancer etc....so not sure how him being married to a white women has affected him helping black culture.

 

[seasoned vet]

Isn't there some hate group that don't want race's to mix too?

oh they skip right over that connection...

 

[seasoned vet]

imagine formulating the sentence “what bothers ME about who another person married...”

huh?!?

SO bizarre.

sure i get it, INFLUENCE!!!!

but IF we all, if YOU teach your children what you believe, that ‘INFLUENCE!!!’ of whatever celebrity wont matter.

 

[layziegunts]

Isn't there some hate group that don't want race's to mix too?

You one of those negroes that equate black power to KKK huh?

This is what I’m dealing with in this thread?

Jesus

 

[layziegunts]

This is a black discussion thread, but when someone is talking about being black first and trying our best to elevate our people instead of being 3rd class citizens y’all attacking.

Anyway, I said what I had to say, there are couple real ones in here DCAllAfrican @sugafree come to mind, but a majority of y’all ain’t about anything revolutionary with our people.

I’m out

 

[goledensilence]

Anyway......

 

[tomdiginson]

This is a black discussion thread, but when someone is talking about being black first and trying our best to elevate our people instead of being 3rd class citizens y’all attacking.

Anyway, I said what I had to say, there are couple real ones in here DCAllAfrican @sugafree come to mind, but a majority of y’all ain’t about anything revolutionary with our people.

I’m out

Good riddance

 

[d nice]

What is going on in here? This convo has been had for over a century. If only we had the collective memory to truly understand it.

Phrases like "Pro-Black" mean absolutely nothing to me. They hold zero weight and carry zero political or economic implications. It's just a way for people to argue and pontificate over.

They're nothing but marketing phrases to sell blackness at this point like everything else.

EDIT

 

[RustyShackleford]

What is going on in here?

An Umar Johnson fan trying to peddle veiled bigotry as "pro black rhetoric"

 

[d nice]

An Umar Johnson fan trying to peddle veiled bigotry as "pro black rhetoric"

I made an edit up top. It's a very old debate that has been going on for over a century. Umar is just a current iteration of that. I'm not fond of the phase "Pro-Black", but I understand why people use it.

I wish this thread could be used for something more and deeper but that requires a certain desire that I don't see.

 

[C.Magneto]

imagine formulating the sentence “what bothers ME about who another person married...”

huh?!?

SO bizarre.

sure i get it, INFLUENCE!!!!

but we all, if YOU teach your children what you believe, the ‘INFLUENCE!!!’ of whatever celebrity wont matter.

I always ask who is our people? All things set aside I find it difficult to call someone my people that I’ve never met. I’d me more privy to build with someone if there are some things we have in common but that doesn’t make you my people. Which leads into my next point, we’ve been groomed to live in a limited accountability society which I’ll attribute to Jesus for a lot of reasons, the most simplest one is not having
to be accountable for your actions because you can repent to a man who died on a cross for you and all is well. This extends into blaming celebrities for people too lazy or unable to diagnose their own personal traumas.

You got dudes talking about leading communities and groups of people when they haven’t started or civilized their own families. And the thing is I get it, I don’t think I won’t ever cringe a little when I see a black man grinning ear to ear with a Becky on his arm but the key he decides to put the lock in at the end of the day is on him and he’ll have to deal with the consequences behind the door he opens. In general, once you see the time and effort it goes into maintaining a healthy family structure you’ll see how trivial the celebrity influencer stuff really is.

Lastly, men respect power. Lots of young black men out here are with no fathers. In turn they’re gonna imitate the men they respect and perceive to have power. If they got the Becky on the arm, they’re likely to perceive that as part of having the power package. Shot out to the military.

 

[pmpdaddyrobford]

You one of those negroes that equate black power to KKK huh?

This is what I’m dealing with in this thread?

Jesus

I'm white

 

[P C H]

So ****** can't be pro black unless they dating / marrying a black woman? Hmm

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Something that bothers me is that the 2 richest black men in America married white women.

If y’all don’t have a problem with that, especially when it deals with the psyche of our brothers, then I don’t know what else is there to say.

Some dude gonna be like “but Jordan married a black woman first!”

You think it is by design that they married out of the race?

 

[6pac]

Something that bothers me is that the 2 richest black men in America married white women.

If y’all don’t have a problem with that, especially when it deals with the psyche of our brothers, then I don’t know what else is there to say.

Some dude gonna be like “but Jordan married a black woman first!”

Jordan seemed like the type that been into white women since UNC.

I feel like if you famous and you don’t keep a chick around from your formative years you gonna end up in a situation like this bc of how few black women in that same social environment which is what I’m thinking DC is alluding to above.

 

[layziegunts]

You think it is by design that they married out of the race?

I saw some statistic showing the more wealthy a black man gets the more likely he is to marry outside his race.

It’s as if when you are rich, you want to prove your wealth by marrying a white woman. It’s as if you are showing white men “look I’m just like you”

 

[layziegunts]

I'm white

But yet you’re knee deep in discussion about black people.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

So *****s can't be pro black unless they dating / marrying a black woman? Hmm

Semi Related
Funny

A coworker (white dude) married a black woman.

He was explaining to me that his wife REFUSED to go see black panther with him. He couldn't understand and I think he low-ki wanted me to explain it to him.

I didn't but stuff like that makes me feel funny about US marrying outside of race.

When there are cultural movements/moments/shifts, can we confidently/honestly celebrate with a mate that isn't black?

I am sure you/we can, but it is just a qeird concept to me.

I understand those that think it isn't that deep though

 

[6pac]

I saw some statistic showing the more wealthy a black man gets the more likely he is to marry outside his race.

It’s as if when you are rich, you want to prove your wealth by marrying a white woman. It’s as if you are showing white men “look I’m just like you”

thats weird to me but i think white women be pretty much letting ****** do whatever and black women be calling out the goofy ****.

i can see how ****** who done been thru 2-3 marriages and got a completely different worldview bc of money as a whole just want a dumb yes (wo)man.

thats why you gotta find u one before you get bread and build with her from the bottom. be looking lost out here

 

[6pac]

Semi Related
Funny

A coworker (white dude) married a black woman.

He was explaining to me that his wife REFUSED to go see black panther with him. He couldn't understand and I think he low-ki wanted me to explain it to him.

I didn't but stuff like that makes me feel funny about US marrying outside of race.

When there are cultural movements/moments/shifts, can we confidently/honestly celebrate with a mate that isn't black?

I am sure you/we can, but it is just a qeird concept to me.

I understand those that think it isn't that deep though

i get it.

the vibes be off and their intent means well but I see why she wouldn’t even wanna get into any discussions about that **** with him.

its like when white dudes try to add slang or show they know a lot about rap. like i feel you bro and i appreciate the intent to wanna be down but bro...chill. lol.

shaun white or whoever homie is comes to mind.

 

[P C H]

Semi Related
Funny

A coworker (white dude) married a black woman.

He was explaining to me that his wife REFUSED to go see black panther with him. He couldn't understand and I think he low-ki wanted me to explain it to him.

I didn't but stuff like that makes me feel funny about US marrying outside of race.

When there are cultural movements/moments/shifts, can we confidently/honestly celebrate with a mate that isn't black?

I am sure you/we can, but it is just a qeird concept to me.

I understand those that think it isn't that deep though

And like I totally get this point as well. Forming a lifelong bond like marriage with someone that isn't "you," that can't definitively share culture, experiences, etc. w/you is a weird dynamic.

It's just for me, when it comes to mating I have a hard time policing attraction to my own singular race. It's 8 billion people in the world Idk all my friends have / are dating interracially and where I'm at it's so commonplace that I don't even think of IR as being a big deal.