Black Culture Discussion Thread

[rbk93]

In short, any one of any race can be racist if they are talking down on someone only due to race.

I've said some stuff that can be deemed racist to some of my peers, but I've never had "racist" intent behind the words IMO.

While I may have thought it was funny at the time, they probably didn't.

 

[seasoned vet]

Can someone explain the "Black people can't be racist" quote/slogan for me please?

I don't understand it.

its a redefinition from the likes of people like Claud Anderson.

the idea that racism can only come from racial positions of power, so since we have no power we cant be racist.

see also:
- women cant rape

 

[Quincy McCall]

I mean that is what it's saying. Saying that black people can be racist lends credence to reverse racism being a thing.

You can't just separate racism and systematic racism. They are the same. I don't believe in the seperate definitions. Racism is systematic by default.

That's just not true imo any display of racial discrimination should be categorized as racist because that's what it is. We don't have to run from that word like conservatives, it is what it is. There's a definite and explicit difference between racism and the systematic governing system of indoctrinating racism. Anybody can be racist, definitively, that's far cry from reverse racism, of which is a half-assed theory without credibility

 

[MalcolmNewton]

its a redefinition from the likes of people like Claud Anderson.

the idea that racism can only come from racial positions of power, so since we have no power we cant be racist.

see also:
- women cant rape

So whose definition of racism are we using? Are we using the white supremacists definition of what racism is? Because if that's the case, racism is whatever they say it is. Now we're back to square one.

 

[tay1]

That's just not true imo any display of racial discrimination should be categorized as racist because that's what it is. We don't have to run from that word like conservatives, it is what it is. There's a definite and explicit difference between racism and the systematic governing system of indoctrinating racism. Anybody can be racist, definitively, that's far cry from reverse racism, of which is a half-assed theory without credibility

Racism is a apart of society. There's no separating it and no need for a separate definition. You can use their definition of it all you want. Either way, one person having prejudice beliefs with no ability to act up on them systematically can not practice racism. Racism was created based off of their ideology and it has manifested itself through society in many ways. We can't practice something they've created and spread because we don't have the means to do so.

 

[rbk93]

Well I have to ask again, would someone like Jay, Diddy, Dr. Dre be essentially "white supremacists"?

I've been asking myself is black empowerment really even worth the effort sometimes because don't get me wrong, but what's stopping us from doing the same thing they might be doing?

 

[tay1]

Well I have to ask again, would someone like Jay, Diddy, Dr. Dre be essentially "white supremacists"?

I've been asking myself is black empowerment really even worth the effort sometimes because don't get me wrong, but what's stopping us from doing the same thing they might be doing?

Have Diddy and Jay systematically oppressed white folks?

Black empowerment does not in any way equal white empowerment. Two separate ideologies and I have no clue on how you reached either of those statements. That's crazy.

 

[ggarvinxx3]

Well I have to ask again, would someone like Jay, Diddy, Dr. Dre be essentially "white supremacists"?

I've been asking myself is black empowerment really even worth the effort sometimes because don't get me wrong, but what's stopping us from doing the same thing they might be doing?

Im confused, how would they be considered "white supremacists"?

 

[Quincy McCall]

Racism is a apart of society. There's no separating it and no need for a separate definition. You can use their definition of it all you want. Either way, one person having prejudice beliefs with no ability to act up on them systematically can not practice racism. Racism was created based off of their ideology and it has manifested itself through society in many ways. We can't practice something they've created and spread because we don't have the means to do so.

So we can practice racial discrimination but not racism?

 

[MalcolmNewton]

Well I have to ask again, would someone like Jay, Diddy, Dr. Dre be essentially "white supremacists"?

I've been asking myself is black empowerment really even worth the effort sometimes because don't get me wrong, but what's stopping us from doing the same thing they might be doing?

Define "black empowerment" (as you understand it) and I can tell you if it's worth it, to you.

 

[MalcolmNewton]

So we can practice racial discrimination but not racism?

Which of the 9 areas that I listed a few pages ago, can black people discriminate white/Asian/Hispanic/etc. people from participating in BASED ON THEIR RACE. Name me one. I'll make it easy.

 

[rbk93]

Have Diddy and Jay systematically oppressed white folks?

Maybe not systematically, but I wouldn't be surprised if they've created barriers to prevent caucasian employment or opportunities to work with or alongside them. At the same time, I would think most people with formal education are caucasian.

@ggarvinxx I'm guessing white supremacy is keeping white or however you want to refer to it ideas and influence in position of power. So if we empower black people, wouldn't we be doing essentially the same thing?

 

[rbk93]

Define "black empowerment" (as you understand it) and I can tell you if it's worth it, to you.

Funding African-Americans to achieve their ambitions to create "equality" for other African-Americans.

I watch/watched a lot of Dr. Boyce Watkins videos and he says always buying black as a huge step in the right direction of black empowerment. At the same time, I feel like most black people have to charge what may be to some excessive amounts of money for a product or service that can be had cheaper elsewhere.

 

[MalcolmNewton]

Funding African-Americans to achieve their ambitions to create "equality" for other African-Americans.

I watch/watched a lot of Dr. Boyce Watkins videos and he says always buying black as a huge step in the right direction of black empowerment. At the same time, I feel like most black people have to charge what may be to some excessive amounts of money for a product or service that can be had cheaper elsewhere.

I'm not a Boyce Watkins fan, I can't speak on him. As far as charging more for products, that's economics. Large corporations have access to large amounts of resources that they can get cheap labor to produce based on economy of scale. Therefore they can charge lower prices and still make a profit. Small black business don't have this advantage, which is why they charge higher prices.

 

[tay1]

So we can practice racial discrimination but not racism?

Discrimination and racism are two different things. Discrimination refers to the treatment of an individual. Racism is an ideology that is used by the dominant group to suppress

 

[rbk93]

I'm not a Boyce Watkins fan, I can't speak on him. As far as charging more for products, that's economics. Large corporations have access to large amounts of resources that they can get cheap labor to produce based on economy of scale. Therefore they can charge lower prices and still make a profit. Small black business don't have this advantage, which is why they charge higher prices.

Is there any large black owned business or corporations though?

 

[tay1]

Is there any large black owned business or corporations though?

Thats kinda the point. We don't which is why we have to charge higher.

 

[Quincy McCall]

Which of the 9 areas that I listed a few pages ago, can black people discriminate white/Asian/Hispanic/etc. people from participating in BASED ON THEIR RACE. Name me one. I'll make it easy.

Can we use derogatory terms to describe or stereotype other races and not be racist on a case-to-case basis? Can white people?

 

[seasoned vet]

So whose definition of racism are we using? Are we using the white supremacists definition of what racism is? Because if that's the case, racism is whatever they say it is. Now we're back to square one.

yes, we are.

and by their own definition, they themselves are guilty.

 

[MalcolmNewton]

Can we use derogatory terms to describe or stereotype other races and not be racist on a case-to-case basis? Can white people?

If I call a Chinese person a "chi" (you know the rest), can I at the same time prevent them from opening a restaurant in my neighborhood? While calling them that would make me a bigot, I can't stop them from engaging in economic activity for their own benefit, in my community. You and I can, and have been physically prevented from engaging in economic activity in other peoples communities.

 

[Quincy McCall]

I will never understand this but it's cool, someday/sometime maybe

 

[Mark Antony]

Are some of you ****** even serious? we haven't even gotten the slightest footing in the power dynamic and mother ****ers already worried about how we'd hypothetically abuse it.

 

[ggarvinxx3]

Maybe not systematically, but I wouldn't be surprised if they've created barriers to prevent caucasian employment or opportunities to work with or alongside them. At the same time, I would think most people with formal education are caucasian.

@ggarvinxx I'm guessing white supremacy is keeping white or however you want to refer to it ideas and influence in position of power. So if we empower black people, wouldn't we be doing essentially the same thing?

Bruh...

Ok, I'll bite. White people have allowed the people you named to flourish to a point, like other entertainers and athletes. None of those people you named controls an amount of resources or can even band together to control a large amount of resources (which is our issue, but thats another topic) to prevent a group of people from accessing anything. So to even think that any of those dudes created barriers to prevent caucasian employment is crazy. Matter of fact I am very sure that they employ a lot of white people

Also, you for some odd reason you are confusing black empowerment with white supremacy which is the reason we need empowerment at all. Like we say to white people who don't understand, Black empowerment doesn't mean Black supremacy or even white hatred, besides there can't be black supremacy and white supremacy thats an oxymoron, you can't have two supremes and its clear that white supremacy is in effect. Can white people have "white empowerment"? They don't need any empowerment bro, they already are the worlds power lol

 

[rbk93]

Alright well is net worth not an actual indication of actual wealth?

Does Jay not have 100% influence into something like Roc Nation or Diddy with Bad Boy?

 

[tokes99]

What country on this earth, are white people marginalized, targeted, have state-sanctioned violence committed against them, and denied equal treatment because of their race? And if there is a such a country that exists, what country is it that has not had the fury of western military forces punish them accordingly?

connect the dots for me here bruv...what has any of that do with the substance of the quoted text or the question of who can/cannot be racist? i think i know where you are going tho...and there likely isn't an argument i could make that you wouldn't refute or redefine as something other than racist