Bigger bust.. Kwame Brown or Kenyon Martin?

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I have got to go with Kenyon being a bigger bust of the two.. dude shoulda stayed in New Jersey.. he has no shot and cant defend any legitimate big man.
At least Brown can give u something on defense and on the boards.. Both were unworthy of the number one pic tho...
 
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Kwame BY FAR
 
Bigger bust.. Kwame Brown or Kenyon Martin?

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Are you freaking serious?

Kenyon was one of the more dynamic 4's in the game during his time in Jersey. Kwame has been a waste of reproductive matter his entire career.
 
michael olowokandi


i mean.. kwame.


i'd take kenyon in his prime over amare, because kenyon plays defense. kenyon is to kidd as amare is to nash.
 
Kwame is probably one of the biggest busts in he history of the NBA. There was so much promise for that kid, but he just didn't have it. Passion, Balls,Fire. All out dissapointment.
 
Kenyon at least made an all-star game....how about changing the thread from Kenyon to Kwame vs. Olowokandi?
 
Lamar odom. the only guy who thought Kwame was gonna be anything was MJ. One of the dumbest things MJ has done in his whole entire career...
 
Originally Posted by Kiddin Like Jason

Martin was like a 20 and 10 dude for a few years before his injury woes, and he was an All-Star.

Come on, man.
bottom line.. martin aint shhhhhh without jason kidd.. he left new jersey and got exposed.. at this point right now, kwame gives a team more than whatkenyon gives a team.. forget what he coulda, woulda, shoulda been.. im talking about right now... even KG and TD21 said Kwame was one of the hardest defendersto go against... guess im just old school.. id rather have a good on ball post defender...
 
Martin was a 20 and 10 guy?

orly?

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Originally Posted by chicksNkicks

Originally Posted by Kiddin Like Jason

Martin was like a 20 and 10 dude for a few years before his injury woes, and he was an All-Star.

Come on, man.
bottom line.. martin aint shhhhhh without jason kidd.. he left new jersey and got exposed.. at this point right now, kwame gives a team more than what kenyon gives a team.. forget what he coulda, woulda, shoulda been.. im talking about right now... even KG and TD21 said Kwame was one of the hardest defenders to go against... guess im just old school.. id rather have a good on ball post defender...
LMAO. Kenyon is the better on the ball defender period. KMart can guard big men too. Don't get it twisted. Do you not remember him guarding 2,3 and4's with the Nets and being good at that? Short-term memory, my man. The man was versatile. Yes, his offensive game is hideous, but the boy could play.Kwame was so much more of a bust. You want to say JKidd is the reason why KMart is so good, but what have the Nets done without him filling the lane on thebreak. He has had many knee/leg surgeries taking away the parts of the game. You said who was a bigger bust, not who is more beneficial to a team now. In thatcase, Kwame Brown > Chris Webber, Penny Hardaway. Your logic is flawed. KMart was unworthy?? Who should have been number 1 then? Acting like KMart ain'tever been productive.
 
jason kidd made him an AS...he also got Mikki Moore a fat deal....but theres no way Kwame would be holding onto some of JKidds passes without hearing it fromthe fans..
 
Is this even a debate? Kenyon played the part of an elite player long enough to get a huge contract. Kwame will never get that far.
 
Originally Posted by The Wizard

Originally Posted by chicksNkicks

Originally Posted by Kiddin Like Jason

Martin was like a 20 and 10 dude for a few years before his injury woes, and he was an All-Star.

Come on, man.
bottom line.. martin aint shhhhhh without jason kidd.. he left new jersey and got exposed.. at this point right now, kwame gives a team more than what kenyon gives a team.. forget what he coulda, woulda, shoulda been.. im talking about right now... even KG and TD21 said Kwame was one of the hardest defenders to go against... guess im just old school.. id rather have a good on ball post defender...
LMAO. Kenyon is the better on the ball defender period. KMart can guard big men too. Don't get it twisted. Do you not remember him guarding 2,3 and 4's with the Nets and being good at that? Short-term memory, my man. The man was versatile. Yes, his offensive game is hideous, but the boy could play. Kwame was so much more of a bust. You want to say JKidd is the reason why KMart is so good, but what have the Nets done without him filling the lane on the break. He has had many knee/leg surgeries taking away the parts of the game. You said who was a bigger bust, not who is more beneficial to a team now. In that case, Kwame Brown > Chris Webber, Penny Hardaway. Your logic is flawed. KMart was unworthy?? Who should have been number 1 then? Acting like KMart ain't ever been productive.
haha.. since when has kenyon ever been considered a good on ball defender??? maybe from the weak side.. and u prove my point, he was good at fillingthe lane on the break, but beyond that, what is he good for?? a couple tip in dunks?? my point was he was good in the situation he was at in NJ.. without thosefactors, he doesnt really do anything for a team.. at least with Brown, who i admit is also horrid, adds a DEFENSIVE presence..
 
Is this serious? Kenyon's career has been derailed by injuries. Something that is ultimately out of his control. What can be said for Kwame's poorcareer?
 
this got me thinking of the 2000 draft....
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it's funny how if we were to redraft this particular draft, michael redd would go number 1, and he was taken in the 2nd round. I'd probably go withMike Miller after that...
 
chicksNkicks...

It's obvious you don't know what the #$+# you are talking about so just stop now.
 
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