As of today, the MVP of the NBA is...

[abovelegit1]

So basically, that elementary article says that Rose scores a lot, racks up mediocre assist numbers, and doesn't do either particularly efficiently. Well, then.

 

[abovelegit1]

So basically, that elementary article says that Rose scores a lot, racks up mediocre assist numbers, and doesn't do either particularly efficiently. Well, then.

 

[smedroc]

Lebron should get it just off how horrible the Cavs are.

 

[smedroc]

Lebron should get it just off how horrible the Cavs are.

 

[everysingletime]

No, what the writer is doing is showing gaps in "advanced metrics."

Tell me how Rondo can lead the league in Pure Point Rating but fall out of the top ten in PER. 

 

[everysingletime]

No, what the writer is doing is showing gaps in "advanced metrics."

Tell me how Rondo can lead the league in Pure Point Rating but fall out of the top ten in PER. 

 

[seymore cake]

^if thats the case it says the same thing about Russel Westbrook but y'all love and consistently talk about how efficient he is

 

[seymore cake]

^if thats the case it says the same thing about Russel Westbrook but y'all love and consistently talk about how efficient he is

 

[everysingletime]

Originally Posted by JD617


Those graphs show how terrible Derek Fisher is.

LOL "The Fisher Quadrant"

 

[everysingletime]

Originally Posted by JD617


Those graphs show how terrible Derek Fisher is.

LOL "The Fisher Quadrant"

 

[futuristic]

There's obviously some salty Knicks fans in here.

 

[futuristic]

There's obviously some salty Knicks fans in here.

 

[abovelegit1]

Originally Posted by amel223

No, what the writer is doing is showing gaps in "advanced metrics."

Tell me how Rondo can lead the league in Pure Point Rating but fall out of the top ten in PER. 

No, all that writer did was look at a bunch of statistics from ESPN, and graph them out for the purposes of illustration. 
As for Rondo, the fact that he shoots atrociously from outside and the FT line, along with his relatively high TO rate, contributes to his PER ranking. And again, PER is not the end all of stats, it's just another analytic tool used in evaluation. Another tool, I might add, that says Derrick Rose has not played at the level of an MVP front runner. 

 

[abovelegit1]

Originally Posted by amel223

No, what the writer is doing is showing gaps in "advanced metrics."

Tell me how Rondo can lead the league in Pure Point Rating but fall out of the top ten in PER. 

No, all that writer did was look at a bunch of statistics from ESPN, and graph them out for the purposes of illustration. 
As for Rondo, the fact that he shoots atrociously from outside and the FT line, along with his relatively high TO rate, contributes to his PER ranking. And again, PER is not the end all of stats, it's just another analytic tool used in evaluation. Another tool, I might add, that says Derrick Rose has not played at the level of an MVP front runner. 

 

[airmaxpenny1]

Originally Posted by Seymore CAKE

^if thats the case it says the same thing about Russel Westbrook but y'all love and consistently talk about how efficient he is

Russell can't shoot but he is a good FT shooter who gets to the line almost with the best in the league and is in a different league defensively than Rose.  We've never used Westbrook as a model of efficiency but to point out that you can score points without shooting 25 times a game.

 

[airmaxpenny1]

Originally Posted by Seymore CAKE

^if thats the case it says the same thing about Russel Westbrook but y'all love and consistently talk about how efficient he is

Russell can't shoot but he is a good FT shooter who gets to the line almost with the best in the league and is in a different league defensively than Rose.  We've never used Westbrook as a model of efficiency but to point out that you can score points without shooting 25 times a game.

 

[bangdak]

Bulls fan stay being biased

 

[bangdak]

Bulls fan stay being biased

 

[everysingletime]

I love how Rose haters make him out to be the second coming of Allen Iverson 

 

[everysingletime]

I love how Rose haters make him out to be the second coming of Allen Iverson 

 

[airmaxpenny1]

Originally Posted by amel223

I love how Rose haters make him out to be the second coming of Allen Iverson 

He's not Iverson but he's definitely a shoot-first PG which is the reason why he draws those comparisons.

I thin Allen said it in this thread or another one, but Rose is basically a mini-LeBron.  I just don't view him as a natural PG.  That's not a neccisarily a knock cause a lot of the best players ever don'tr neccisarily have a position, Magic, Bird, Oscar etc.

 

[airmaxpenny1]

Originally Posted by amel223

I love how Rose haters make him out to be the second coming of Allen Iverson 

He's not Iverson but he's definitely a shoot-first PG which is the reason why he draws those comparisons.

I thin Allen said it in this thread or another one, but Rose is basically a mini-LeBron.  I just don't view him as a natural PG.  That's not a neccisarily a knock cause a lot of the best players ever don'tr neccisarily have a position, Magic, Bird, Oscar etc.

 

[kevin cleveland]

Tell me how Rondo can lead the league in Pure Point Rating but fall out of the top ten in PER. 

Because they have nothing to do with each other.

 

[kevin cleveland]

Tell me how Rondo can lead the league in Pure Point Rating but fall out of the top ten in PER. 

Because they have nothing to do with each other.

 

[everysingletime]

Originally Posted by Kevin Cleveland

Tell me how Rondo can lead the league in Pure Point Rating but fall out of the top ten in PER. 

Because they have nothing to do with each other.


Not my point.  Think outside the box.