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We are just discussing. I actually like these discussions on NT and to read different viewpoints. No different than discussing world issues and politics.Originally Posted by RamZs8906
Just a few things.
1. Add Religious/ Spiritual beliefs to things NEVER to be discussed on #NT
2. Believe what you believe, you really can't convince someone how you believe something is correct because what's true to them is FOR them.
3. As a Non-Religious Christian (yes that is possible, and yes I do go to church; Religions = cults) I know for myself, first hand the power of prayer and seeing what my faith has done in my life and why certain things occur in my life. I know for myself that my faith in something I can not explain is what helps me keep going many days. And that's good enough for me, I don't need to convince anyone else that my faith belief is right, because it sits right in my soul.
Whatever fulfills you and brings you peace, all the more power to you. Infact, I see that when I became more of a non-religious Muslim and then now turned into an Agnostic, I am so much more tolerant of everyone's beliefs and faith systems. When I was a believer, I was more judgmental and intolerant because I believed Islam was the correct and true religion and the only way of life while everyone else is doomed to Hell for being unbelievers. Such an inferiority complex and quite prejudice thinking to me.
As for the power of prayer, again, that is cool you believe it works for you. As my opinion about it?All superstition. Why can't it work for some and not others to have their prayers answered? I remember as a young girl, praying every single night to God asking him to cure my grandpa of his leukemia. I would sit there and cry and beg and beg with all my belief. My grandpa still died. But then...Oh yea, it was his time to go. :S Why God did you not answer my prayers and why make my beautiful grandfather suffer agony and pain while dying? Why did He take my Grandpa away when I was still young, to the point that I will miss out on seeing me grow up with him around and share my life with him and it and even be at my wedding like I used to imagine as a little girl?Why did my prayer fail?
Maybe its me, but I often find that many people who are Athiest (IMO) have a very pessimistic way of looking at life. I prefer to have that hope, that faith that when I pass I'll move on to a place better than here.
4. And just for the record, I'd rather live life believing in a Higher Power and die to find out he doesn't exist, than to live life as if God didn't exist, die, and be sitting there at the moment of Judgement about to go to Hell.
How are Atheists pessimist because they do not believe in an afterlife? It is just realistic to them. We just decompose and die and are gone. That's it. Why does there need to be an afterlife for our purpose?Actually, why is it that us humans, as the most evolved and intelligent beings believe there should be our purpose to be here on earth?How about the other species?Is there an afterlife for animals?Why just us?
You are a Christian and your chances of going to Hell using your logic is the same as everyone else's then. What if your religion is not the true one?There are ten thousands of religions that exist, and so you have ultimate faith yours is the right and truthful one? Your chances are the same as an Atheist then.