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Any Accounting majors/accountants on NT?
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Nice.
They will be recruiting at my school this fall
I plan to go in
I am scared though man I ain't gonna lie
They will be recruiting at my school this fall
I plan to go in
I am scared though man I ain't gonna lie
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Don't go in to any interview scared, they will sense that and it possibly could cost you an internship/job. Confidence is very important with these interviews, also they want to see that you aren't stiff as a board especially if you are going into audit because you will need to interact with clients. They want to make sure they spend 60+ hours with somebody that has a personality.Nice.
They will be recruiting at my school this fall
I plan to go in
I am scared though man I ain't gonna lie
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Any Midwest NT ACCY recruiters wanna give me some hook ups?
I'll "tap tap pull" at the Career Fair this fall.
I'll "tap tap pull" at the Career Fair this fall.
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This is what I keep hearing. Almost word for word.
I am not scared about the interviews though, it is more the decision making.
Like what if I can't do the hours etc.
What if I HATE it
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But I am approaching everything as objectively as possible and keeping a positive attitude 
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Well Accounting will have you do big hours during busy season, what do you mean what if you can't do the hours do you have something outside of work that would prevent you from doing them?
If you hate it, it will be a positive to have that you interned/worked at a Big 4 so other employers would take notice of that on your resume and it could help you obtain a job in private.
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The hours aren't as bad as it may seem. I use to work 60 hours while going to grad school my first 70% of the program. You just grind through it. Now whether you'll like it or hate it, that's personal. Students who never worked or interned grueling hours are a mixed batch as they can fall into the either-or category. You have to try it, if you hate it then just grind it out and jump out as a financial analystc or business planner, or even switch within the firm to something more appealing. Just remember that you need to be a high performer to get away with that.
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Just what if I break down mentally etc.
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Great advice.
I will say this, I am just tired of being dead broke and barely making it. Trying to operate in this competitive environment given my reality is too much. Sometimes I wonder how I even made it into this conversation.
I don't mind working hard man as long as I can BREATHE. I just want to eat man
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Great advice.
I will say this, I am just tired of being dead broke and barely making it. Trying to operate in this competitive environment given my reality is too much. Sometimes I wonder how I even made it into this conversation.
I don't mind working hard man as long as I can BREATHE. I just want to eat man
Accounting won't allow you to breathe per say as the starting pay is above norm compared to other careers in liberal arts but fall somewhere in the middle in terms of business professional pay. It's okay money, but nothing crazy when you start.
Whether you can breathe in terms of having time off to relax and such, that depends on your firm, your group, and your engagements. There are too many variables. Key thing is to learn to manage your superiors so they like you, but don't overburden you. You want to be a good performed, but you don't want to have to do 2x as much work as your colleague. Sure it'll look good on reviews but you'll be stressed and overworked and thus might burn out. It's hard to explain to someone who is just a student as they never dealt with such issues.
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See if you can get on with the advisory/consulting group of a firm. Thats what I have been doing and only put in 40 hour weeks with no busy season. I definitely would recommend getting an internship if possible, that is the only way you will ever know if its something you're interested in or not.Great advice.
I will say this, I am just tired of being dead broke and barely making it. Trying to operate in this competitive environment given my reality is too much. Sometimes I wonder how I even made it into this conversation.
I don't mind working hard man as long as I can BREATHE. I just want to eat man
Which office?
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I definitely want to consult. That is my strength. Well, people and relationships are. I do like the grind though.
I dunno we will see.
Our school does a good job of introducing us to the big 4 firms as well as local firms, CPAs, industry etc.
I am already in the recruitment circles with PwC and KPMG. They basically tackle people in the hallways in the business school they are impossible to ignore. I haven't seen Deloitte though but I hear that they recruit a little here at The University of Utah but mostly at BYU. They have a GNARLY School of Accounting there 
Basically you just have to meet the people and then decide which direction you want to lean
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I dunno we will see.
Our school does a good job of introducing us to the big 4 firms as well as local firms, CPAs, industry etc.
I am already in the recruitment circles with PwC and KPMG. They basically tackle people in the hallways in the business school
they are impossible to ignore. I haven't seen Deloitte though but I hear that they recruit a little here at The University of Utah but mostly at BYU. They have a GNARLY School of Accounting there Basically you just have to meet the people and then decide which direction you want to lean
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Then you're like 50% of staff who come through...who cares?
My first season was around 60, it took some getting used to. But at least it wasn't all on client site, it was in our office. You get used to it, which is not to say a great answer, but the hard work pays off. Season has to be season for a reason, it's a reporting period and there's only so much you can fit in when factoring in regulatory and other things.
If you hate it, you move on....if you're young, this is hardly a life altering decision.
As someone who interviews candidates all the time - here's the thing, come in with an open mind and a desire to learn while showing a work ethic. If 2 months in, you hate life and everything you do, then have a conversation with a higher up so when the engagement is over or at an apporpriate time, someone can help youi land somewhere.
I haven't drank all the Big 4 kool-aid, and I would help anyone who comes to me, provided of course every moment you're working on the team you're putting in effort. The second you hate things and mail it in, then you're really hurting your peers and losing out on professionalism.
I definitely want to consult. That is my strength. Well, people and relationships are. I do like the grind though.
I dunno we will see.
Our school does a good job of introducing us to the big 4 firms as well as local firms, CPAs, industry etc.
I am already in the recruitment circles with PwC and KPMG. They basically tackle people in the hallways in the business school
Basically you just have to meet the people and then decide which direction you want to lean
Beta Alpha Psi
Edit since I just saw this -
Ah yes, consulting, back en vogue and sexy again. Here's the thing with it - they work harder than I do and have to be able to move at the drop of a dime. Also, think about it from bigger company perspective (not saying you'd work with publics, necessarily). When do big deals get done? Holidays, short notice, etc. That's extremely difficult and aside from last season, makes my workload look relatively light.
Also for the advisory guys who work for an accounting firm, a lot of the scucessful ones honed their craft by being really good/technical in a certain industry as an auditor or tax person.
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I will be 29 when I interview. How do you typically view age? OR a candidate who is a non traditional student?
I will be 29 when I interview. How do you typically view age? OR a candidate who is a non traditional student?
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My firm (BDO) hired a guy right out school at 35 years old. I don't think it will hurt you, they might not even realize your age and they are not allowed to ask that on an interview.
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I'm 29 - bout to start in a few months. Got offers from everyone when I interviewed. If you got your stuff together/confident it really doesn't matter. It is a plus in my opinion cuz you have some real world experience as an adult. They know that you better understand what the grind means/fitting into a firm culture.
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QFT couldn't have said it better
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Thanks man
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I'm during the career switch myself and am starting this fall as a 29 year old. Don't be hesitant as a lot of firms prefer career switchers since they usually go into accounting knowing full well what the requirements and rigors are of the industry. No one even believed that I was 29 at my firm when I told the partner and seniors in my group. I do have a baby face though
One of the career advisers at my school was a partner at PWC, Goldman was his big client so a very demanding one, he came into the firm at 28 he told me.
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Age by no means is a factor at all when recruiting. You'll find that 90% of the recruits are fresh college grads, others are going through a career switch. Starting with public accounting, as long as you're competent enough to learn/do the work, that's all that matters. In my start class there were people in ranging from 20 (early college grads) up to 45 (married with kids switching careers). The field of accounting has no age limit, unless you're a partner nearing retirement and you're getting pushed out
As for the non-traditional bit, that doesn't matter either. I have met students who interned at the age of 30 from Golden Gate University out in SF. I think everybody for the most part understands that people have different paths so don't let that hinder you or scare you away. Do you boo boo.
As for the non-traditional bit, that doesn't matter either. I have met students who interned at the age of 30 from Golden Gate University out in SF. I think everybody for the most part understands that people have different paths so don't let that hinder you or scare you away. Do you boo boo.
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My comment pertaining to age correlates more to work ethic.
Those with more life experience or starting chapter two, or even though completing additional schooling can generally handle the workload with less stress. Not saying it is easy, though.
I don't care how old someone is. In fact, I sell on the fact that I'm happy to early promote if they show they can surpass everyone. Essentialyl, they can get an opportunity to be trued up.
Those with more life experience or starting chapter two, or even though completing additional schooling can generally handle the workload with less stress. Not saying it is easy, though.
I don't care how old someone is. In fact, I sell on the fact that I'm happy to early promote if they show they can surpass everyone. Essentialyl, they can get an opportunity to be trued up.
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Yes,
As I have matured I definitely understand things more. About myself, life etc.
I know what to expect in most situations and if I don't , I can ask the right questions. I can self-reflect and and hold my self accountable quickly. Those are pretty good assets to have and it makes a person much easier to work with/be around.
As I have matured I definitely understand things more. About myself, life etc.
I know what to expect in most situations and if I don't , I can ask the right questions. I can self-reflect and and hold my self accountable quickly. Those are pretty good assets to have and it makes a person much easier to work with/be around.
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On an off chance, does anyone want to buy my 4 set of Becker books from me? I didn't use them at all/completely new (i used the ebook format on my comp instead).
-FAR and BEC books are from January.
-REG from June
-AUD haven't ordered yet, but can order it to get it shipped to me.
$100 + cost of shipping? PM me.
-FAR and BEC books are from January.
-REG from June
-AUD haven't ordered yet, but can order it to get it shipped to me.
$100 + cost of shipping? PM me.
