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You guys are just trying ANYTHING. Sounding desperate as hell ...
You guys are just trying ANYTHING. Sounding desperate as hell ...
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Originally Posted by copped
Originally Posted by LosALMIGHTY
I can live with Amare & Joe even though Amare drives me insane (I'm a Suns fan too). Joe can create his own shot better than Wilson can & Gallo will get there soon. Imagine Amare, Joe, TP, Gallo, and Lee? All this sure thing talk is annoying.
If bron is all about his image and being a billionaire athlete, Chiacago might provide the fasted route. But if he's worried about his legacy, which I don't think he is, Chicago will be a dumb place to play. He will forever be in Jordans shadow because he had to come to a playoff team with another all-star via FA to win his championships. The only places he can have that legacy thats on par with MJ is in Cleveland and NY. Cleveland because he is homegrown and won it with his team. NY because be took a franchise from rags to riches.
Basically how I feel about this whole thing. Well-put.
Bulls: will forever be in the back of jordans shadow...will see his statue each day he comes to work...how can he build his own legacy? sorry lebron no room for 2 statues out front...its way to early for people to win in chicago and not be compared or seen as being 'not as good as MJ'
thisOriginally Posted by PauliePeppas
this @@%* can't end soon enough
I'm sorry Cake, did you say something that refutes my point? I wasn't listening.Originally Posted by Seymore CAKE
Originally Posted by copped
Originally Posted by LosALMIGHTY
I can live with Amare & Joe even though Amare drives me insane (I'm a Suns fan too). Joe can create his own shot better than Wilson can & Gallo will get there soon. Imagine Amare, Joe, TP, Gallo, and Lee? All this sure thing talk is annoying.
If bron is all about his image and being a billionaire athlete, Chiacago might provide the fasted route. But if he's worried about his legacy, which I don't think he is, Chicago will be a dumb place to play. He will forever be in Jordans shadow because he had to come to a playoff team with another all-star via FA to win his championships. The only places he can have that legacy thats on par with MJ is in Cleveland and NY. Cleveland because he is homegrown and won it with his team. NY because be took a franchise from rags to riches.
Basically how I feel about this whole thing. Well-put.
Bulls: will forever be in the back of jordans shadow...will see his statue each day he comes to work...how can he build his own legacy? sorry lebron no room for 2 statues out front...its way to early for people to win in chicago and not be compared or seen as being 'not as good as MJ'
Interestingly Enough I Just Finished Reading This Before I Clicked This Thread...
James has nothing to fear from Jordan
By Nick Friedell
Out of all the strange theories as to whyLeBron Jameswouldn't want to sign with theChicago Bullsthis summer, there's always been one that made me scratch my head more than the others:
Why would LeBron James want to play inMichael Jordan's shadow?
Seriously?
Granted, like most NBA superstars, James seems to have an ego. There's no doubt that he would love to win an NBA title in Cleveland and take the Larry O'Brien trophy on a tour of Akron in the process. It would only solidify his standing as the once and future king of Northeast Ohio. But that doesn't appear to be a possibility for the foreseeable future.
The Cavs don't have the type of cap space that teams like the Bulls, Knicks and Nets -- among others -- can offer. Yes, the Cavs can sign James for more money and/or years, but they can't bring in another All-Star for him to play alongside unless the organization pulls off a miracle trade. They're stuck in a rut of playoff mediocrity and nobody in Cleveland can figure out exactly how to get out of it. A championship seems like the least of their worries, especially considering they don't even have a coach at the moment.
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Despite these circumstances, and uncertainties in places like New York, New Jersey, Miami and Los Angeles, there still seems to be a prevailing thought in some circles that James wouldn't want to come to Chicago because he knows he couldn't compete with the legacy Jordan created with the Bulls.
The events of the past few days, namely the proposed deal which would sendKirk Hinrichand his contract to the Wizards, thus freeing up even more cap space for the Bulls, make that assertion even more laughable than it seemed before. Putting aside the fact that James loved the Bulls growing up and absolutely idolized Jordan as a kid, Chicago gives James the best chance to win right now -- and over the last two months he’s said that’s all he really cares about.
People from other cities recruiting LeBron make it seem as if he'll never be able to live up to Jordan. My response to those folks is this:
Who will?
Michael Jordan was the greatest basketball player of all time. James will be compared to Jordan no matter where he goes for the rest of his career, just likeKobe Bryantis right now and every other great player that came before him.
People make it seem as if a basketball player can't possibly function and be successful in Chicago while living under the constant glare of Jordan's transcendent career. That's funny considering last I checkedDerrick Rosewas doing just fine in Chicago and has quickly become of the most popular players in the league.Joakim Noahgot off to a rough start in the Windy City but now he's beloved and has become one of the most popular athletes in town.
Heck, while it may not have the fervor that it did last year, the love is still ever-present for Jay Cutler and he was downright bad at times for the Bears. The city loves a winner and will treat the athletes that do so accordingly. The Blackhawks still can't take a step in town without being mobbed after winning the Stanley Cup, and that was several weeks ago.
That's the crazy part about all this talk. If James wins, nothing else will matter. Bryant found that out in Los Angeles after winning his NBA crowns. People still compare him toMagic Johnsonand wonder who is the "Greatest Laker of all-time." Do you think he cares? He has five rings and is treated like royalty in Los Angeles.
Same goes forKevin Garnett. He won a ring for the Celtics in 2008 and almost delivered another this season. He is worshipped in Boston and is credited, alongsidePaul PierceandRay Allen, as returning the Celtics to prominence. No, he doesn't have as many rings as Bill Russell or Larry Bird, but he cemented himself in Celtics lore with the one he already earned.
The story would undoubtedly be a little sweeter for James if he won a title in Cleveland because of the proximity to his hometown, but his legacy isn't going to be defined so much by where he won the title, as it will be by whether or not he won one at all and how many he racked up.
The truth is that on paper the Bulls are the team that give him the best chance to win a title right now and in the future. Bulls GM Gar Forman even thinks that the Jordan shadow will help the Bulls recruitment of James in the long run.
"I think one of the things that makes the Bulls such a storied franchise is Michael andScottie [Pippen]and the success that they had, and in my opinion, that bodes well for the Chicago Bulls because it's been done here before," he said Friday on "Mike & Mike In The Morning" on ESPN Radio. "We won multiple championships. We've had terrific players and a terrific brand that's known worldwide."
Sure, the comparisons surrounding James and Jordan will be a little greater if he comes to Chicago, but in the end James is going to be judged the same way every other great player in the league is -- by championships.
Right now he has none.
If he ever wants to get into the conversation as being one of the greatest players of all time, that has to change, and change quickly.
And if that means signing with the Bulls and playing for the team that Jordan made famous, so be it.
There's always room for another statue on the other side of the United Center.
LosALMIGHTY wrote:
And was Lebron denied the right to by shares in MSG because he wasn't a FA yet or because it works around the salary cap? Someone in here said we should over FA stock options, but wouldn't what happend with Lebron negate that?
he would have to buy the shares himself. if stern wants to fight it i'm sure lebron's lawyers and the players association will have a real fun time eating it up. i read in an atlanta article about joe johnson that they think shares could convince him to not take the 6th year and come to NYC. so people are aware of it. it's clear as day in the CBA. it's legal. if stern is letting all the crazyness and tampering that's already going on, i don't see why he would try and screw us out of lebron and himself out of the money that comes with it
it's impossible to enforce. he can just get his family members to buy the sock if stern wants to grandstand and try and stop him.
stylish is 100% right about why the media hates us. dolan was on some Orwellian $!+%. but honestly they hated us in the 90's too. the majority of the country hates NYC, espn just making money off that well known fact.
Via ESPN Chicago (finger point to Qaspec)
“…After Bosh, and assuming Dwyane Wade stays put, Joe Johnson is reportedly frothing to come to the Bulls, so much so, according to the Tribune, that he would be willing to sign early. At off guard, Johnson would form a dream backcourt with Derrick Rose. Carlos Boozer would complete that picture nicely. The Bulls don’t appear especially interested in Amare Stoudemire. But the next-tier David Lee, a restricted free agent and a 20-12 guy, is out there. Ray Allen is too, even at nearly 35…
Originally Posted by tommykairaa
am i the only one that doesnt read any articles?
haha
Originally Posted by YEEUPP
Originally Posted by Ballinsam23
PG-tony douglas
SG-Joe Johnson
SF-gallo
PF-lee
C-amare
If worse comes to worst, and Lebron, Bosh signed to Heats, CHI, or just stayed then..
IDK how we can afford that team but i wouldn't be too mad about it..
Amare playing center on Defense thooo......The defense he played vs Lakers this playoff series was terrible...
What if we did something snaky.. signed Joe Johnson.. Then traded Chandler-Joe Johnson for C.P3