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2018 NFL Playoffs Vol. Evil Empire vs The UnderDogs in 2 weeks!
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aNYone
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The Jags D that Ben just dropped 450+ yards passing on in freezing temps?
Blake Bortles threw 35 tds a few seasons ago
The Steelers were in that game maybe for half a quarter. AB and Leveon has to do other worldly **** just to keep it close and that last td to JuJu was pointless.
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When you watch a lot of football, it's pretty ******* easy to tell. Not many articles out there gonna actually clock a LB or a Safeties movement to the play, but when you see it you, you should be able to tell.
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So the third-down success is gone and changed under Foles and he will play the best third-down defense in recent history on Sunday. That is the point you and I both made.
Wentz doesn't matter anymore. Your defense is what I worry about, and Ajayi/Blount/Ertz/Nelson A.
Not Jeffrey vs. Xavier (who is for whatever reason really good vs. tall-set/non-speedster receivers), not Foles, he will just go through his progressions and hit his first option, all about containing small plays and not letting Ajayi run wild on a designed screen. All about the deception that the Vikings need to stop short of the bigger potential success the play could turn into, or else they'll suffer Ertz taking an out-route up the sideline for a significant gain and win like a 17-14 game.
The Eagles will need a 20-14 win or 17-16 something like that to win I think, and it's not out of the realm of possibility at all but I just think the Vikings defense is different than Foles has seen, yet it's on their homefield so we'll see how that affects team performance.
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It's only Tuesday and already heating up in here. I love it 
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If we’re doing that Kendrick’s and Barr isn’t faster sideline to sideline than Myles Jack and Telvin
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I mean you mention Kendricks as fast when his brother is way faster lol Eric is better in coverage tho but thats not saying much
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the underdog role is overplayed? they are the first #1 seed to be an underdog in playoff history
of course the players are feeding off this
of course the players are feeding off this
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reread the point you made.. and ask yourself if you ACTUALLY made that point
that may have been your intent, but THAT was not clear in what you actually wrote
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Eric Kendricks broke the chart in the eraser drill/shuttle in elementary school, don't care about debating Barr in that skillset but Eric Kendricks wins almost every individual comparison rather than doing that 2v2 LB comp stuff.
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I mean you mention Kendricks as fast when his brother is way faster lol Eric is better in coverage tho but thats not saying much
I just don't think you watch a lot of Vikings football. He's not the fastest in the league, but when it comes to football speed he's pretty damn quick and when you combine the rest of their team, they don't get beat on the edge very often. They were the #1 defense in passing yards allowed to opposing running backs. That's mostly dumpoffs, flares, swings, etc and it happens well after the play has started to develop, so players need to come out of position or sniff out the play freakishly quick. A lot of this is mental speed too. If that doesn't help you understand how fast this defense is, not sure what will.
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it's wild how Philly is a god rushing team and they were 30th in 1st down run frequency
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Can’t wait to see Vikings vs Jags Super Bowl
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If you understand what is being said and the point is acknowledged as true - then we're good, that's all. And you want to argue the "presentation" of the point, when you clearly understand it, but I don't want to do that who cares about stylistic arguments THAT much.
I don't with strangers, at least not lately. You don't have to agree with the way I presented it, Idc. The Eagles O is in all likelihood much worse than 8th-best, their ranking, as that is the finished ranking created only by Wentz's contributions from earlier in the season, that had initially made them the league's best, and they're probably 20th-32nd in reality as a unit now under Foles but 8th is what they dropped to/finished at, so we can't exaaactly know how bad or good it is. The guess is pretty bad right?
A trending-down third-down offense vs. a league-best third-down defense of the Vikings, which you've said you do understand as true, is all -- but it's very important. Carry on.
I don't with strangers, at least not lately. You don't have to agree with the way I presented it, Idc. The Eagles O is in all likelihood much worse than 8th-best, their ranking, as that is the finished ranking created only by Wentz's contributions from earlier in the season, that had initially made them the league's best, and they're probably 20th-32nd in reality as a unit now under Foles but 8th is what they dropped to/finished at, so we can't exaaactly know how bad or good it is. The guess is pretty bad right?
A trending-down third-down offense vs. a league-best third-down defense of the Vikings, which you've said you do understand as true, is all -- but it's very important. Carry on.
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I've watched the Vikings a ton. I've never said they're slow, I'm saying calling them the "fastest lateral defense" is overblown.
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we dont win THAT game with speed.. or at least not the speed of our skill guys.. we win on the edges and in the screen game, through our oline (the athleticism and power of our Oline allows us to do a ton.. we do a ton of pulling with our guys).. which goes to my point above.. best thing dougie got from andy, in my opinion (and andy's best trait as an offensive coach.. it isnt misdirection to simply to get a speed guy one on one.. he wants the play to have a larger structure and potential where your guys out number the defenders and multiple blockers are there)
or we go with RPO stuff and force commitment from defenders through that
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I am just gonna let the game happen on Sunday
I don't even dislike the Vikings, if it was any team besides the Eagles I would be rooting for them to take home the Lombardi
I don't even dislike the Vikings, if it was any team besides the Eagles I would be rooting for them to take home the Lombardi
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anyone but the pats and i'm happy
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Lateral defensive speed comes from more than just the linebackers.
Safeties and even lineman count too...
And it ain’t always 40 and shuttle times either...you gotta see it , diagnose and attack in a split second...some are good at that, others aren’t...
Safeties and even lineman count too...
And it ain’t always 40 and shuttle times either...you gotta see it , diagnose and attack in a split second...some are good at that, others aren’t...
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They dropped 40 because they were getting smoked and Jax let off the gas pedal. They eased up. A few of those touchdowns were desperation hail marys and were lucky as hell.
What's the status on Sendejo?
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According to Xavier Rhodes, he should be good to go. Zim says doing much better.
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The Eagles aren't trash, mediocre or even to be labeled "good", they're a great team so I don't want to represent myself like a person who might consider this a lopsided matchup or, that it's already in the bag.
Few teams get this far, in this position of the Final Four, without their QB (who for PHI this year was a MVP candidate, and a legitimate one certainly). Very few, so the PHI team is great.
-With Wentz, I would have to think they win this NFC Championship matchup at home vs. MIN in a close game, one that is back-and-forth through all 4Qs, or maybe even Philly's offense and Wentz would pull away in the 2H, yet, we'll never know.
-Without Wentz, I think it's as simple as the Foles question when he needs to produce points vs. a defense like no other he's seen in this run as a starter, or on this stage in the small sample that it's been. For PHI, what determines things in a situation vs. ATL compared to MIN is different - PHI overcame Foles in their win over ATL, and the 15pts he put up against ATL were enough only because it was less than the 10 by ATL (that usually won't get it done...), but against MIN, Foles will - on paper - seem to be set up to struggle even further to score points, so will they score more than MIN will on the other side when the game's complete?
What Keenum will be able to generate himself on the other side with the Minnesota offense against a good PHI defense is, I feel, likely to be more. I like Keenum/MIN's Offense odds of scoring more points vs. PHI's upper-echelon defense than I like Foles/PHI's Offense odds of outscoring MIN while facing MIN's defense.
Turnovers will change everything, but that's in every game. Both will be going out of their way to make zero, but obviously a turnover at any point on Sunday matters to the outcome in a game of few points.
Few teams get this far, in this position of the Final Four, without their QB (who for PHI this year was a MVP candidate, and a legitimate one certainly). Very few, so the PHI team is great.
-With Wentz, I would have to think they win this NFC Championship matchup at home vs. MIN in a close game, one that is back-and-forth through all 4Qs, or maybe even Philly's offense and Wentz would pull away in the 2H, yet, we'll never know.
-Without Wentz, I think it's as simple as the Foles question when he needs to produce points vs. a defense like no other he's seen in this run as a starter, or on this stage in the small sample that it's been. For PHI, what determines things in a situation vs. ATL compared to MIN is different - PHI overcame Foles in their win over ATL, and the 15pts he put up against ATL were enough only because it was less than the 10 by ATL (that usually won't get it done...), but against MIN, Foles will - on paper - seem to be set up to struggle even further to score points, so will they score more than MIN will on the other side when the game's complete?
What Keenum will be able to generate himself on the other side with the Minnesota offense against a good PHI defense is, I feel, likely to be more. I like Keenum/MIN's Offense odds of scoring more points vs. PHI's upper-echelon defense than I like Foles/PHI's Offense odds of outscoring MIN while facing MIN's defense.
Turnovers will change everything, but that's in every game. Both will be going out of their way to make zero, but obviously a turnover at any point on Sunday matters to the outcome in a game of few points.
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yup.. cause you can have a fast LB, but if they struggle disengaging from blocks or struggle reading and reacting fast enough to beat say a guard locking onto them (and there have been a ton of em.. hence why you can just draft an LB based on 40 teams.. or dudes could struggle in coverage in spite of their speed)
look at the eagles kendricks, pretty sure dude is alot faster in a 40 than his brother but his brother is the better player.. but he's had moments where he has struggled in alot of the above
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The Ajayi/Blount/Clement rotation becomes less threatening if Minnesota gets out 10-0 or 17-0 like they did vs. New Orleans. That lead wasn't insurmountable vs. Brees' arm.
Brees came back / Would Foles? Or would Foles struggle to pass his team back into the game the same way? And I'll note that Brees needed the entire 2H to engineer the comeback, and Foles can't expedite the same timeline. I'd say; he may need 7Q's to come back from 17 down if it were to get there.
I clearly don't believe in Foles so much that the off chance he would do well haunts me
Brees came back / Would Foles? Or would Foles struggle to pass his team back into the game the same way? And I'll note that Brees needed the entire 2H to engineer the comeback, and Foles can't expedite the same timeline.
I'd say; he may need 7Q's to come back from 17 down if it were to get there.I clearly don't believe in Foles so much that the off chance he would do well haunts me
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