2017 NBA FINALS THREAD. PART III

[abubakr shaheed]

what more could he have done this series? other than pace himself better in games, may have helped down the stretch in game 3.

Play some defense.  You know, that other half of the game that doesnt easily show up on the stat sheet.

his defense has been solid this finals..hes gotta check a legit scorer almost every time down. what the hell are you talking about?

 

[abubakr shaheed]

bruh, if this doesnt end tonight due to some shady reffing again. I'm done. If the refs push this to a game 6...f the nba. this aint fair to the fans b. let the players and teams decide who wins. paying all this bread just to watch zebras. take yo *** to the zoo.

i think it was steph and klay who decided the warriors would lose game 4. unless the refs had their families held hostage in the visiting locker room

 

[niceshoes247]

bruh, if this doesnt end tonight due to some shady reffing again. I'm done. If the refs push this to a game 6...f the nba. this aint fair to the fans b. let the players and teams decide who wins. paying all this bread just to watch zebras. take yo *** to the zoo.

Don't contradict yourself little homey it was all love when the dubs pull off three in a row but the cavs wiin one and you're ready to be done with the NBA ?

 

[junglejim]

his defense has been solid this finals..hes gotta check a legit scorer almost every time down. what the hell are you talking about?

you have to be watching a different game.  He defense has been terribly lazy and his DFG% is like 65%.  He has been awful defensively.

 

[abubakr shaheed]

his defense has been solid this finals..hes gotta check a legit scorer almost every time down. what the hell are you talking about?

you have to be watching a different game.  He defense has been terribly lazy and his DFG% is like 65%.  He has been awful defensively.

hes their best perimeter defender, if his defense was terribly lazy they'd lose by 30 points in every game. he doesnt have klay/draymond/iguodala/livingston guarding the best perimeter players

 

[HOU$TON]

You were up 3-1 KD how dare you

Pathetic

 

[junglejim]

hes their best perimeter defender, if his defense was terribly lazy they'd lose by 30 points in every game. he doesnt have klay/draymond/iguodala/livingston guarding the best perimeter players

unreal

 

[Deleted member 107398]

bruh, if this doesnt end tonight due to some shady reffing again. I'm done. If the refs push this to a game 6...f the nba. this aint fair to the fans b. let the players and teams decide who wins. paying all this bread just to watch zebras. take yo *** to the zoo.

Don't contradict yourself little homey it was all love when the dubs pull off three in a row but the cavs wiin one and you're ready to be done with the NBA ?

Based on the refs behavior, I don't blame him

Game 1 was a great game, regardless of outcome

Refs were light on the calls on both ends it seemed to be a better game overall

 

[abubakr shaheed]

hes their best perimeter defender, if his defense was terribly lazy they'd lose by 30 points in every game. he doesnt have klay/draymond/iguodala/livingston guarding the best perimeter players

unreal

it would be unreal if you actually believed lebron isn't doing enough for his team to win.

 

[dat dude chris]

bruh, if this doesnt end tonight due to some shady reffing again. I'm done. If the refs push this to a game 6...f the nba. this aint fair to the fans b. let the players and teams decide who wins. paying all this bread just to watch zebras. take yo *** to the zoo.

What if the Cavs come out on fire again...then what? GS was paid extra to blow the game??

 

[Fozz]

Alright, I hope we all get to enjoy the game tonight and the Warriors end the series on their homecourt.

If not...

 

[junglejim]

it would be unreal if you actually believed lebron isn't doing enough for his team to win.

I never said what he is doing isnt enough to win.  You specifically asked what he could be doing better.  I said defense because he has been really bad on that end this series.  You dont allow opposing players to shoot 65% while playing good defense.  Just a general observation.

 

[freeze]

bruh, if this doesnt end tonight due to some shady reffing again. I'm done. If the refs push this to a game 6...f the nba. this aint fair to the fans b. let the players and teams decide who wins. paying all this bread just to watch zebras. take yo *** to the zoo.

Don't contradict yourself little homey it was all love when the dubs pull off three in a row but the cavs wiin one and you're ready to be done with the NBA ?

notice i didnt say anything about the cavs negatively. I was speaking on the refs and their influence. Call the game fair and let the players decide who wins. 1st 3 games were good games. Outside of bron getting a ton of calls in the 1st qtr of 1 and curry getting a ton the 1st qtr of 3. the games were called fairly even. Game 3 being the best of the series. Game 4 was a mockery of everything we love about this game. It was terrible. The refs made it about them. calling fouls. not calling fouls. it was a tech oh wait..no it wasnt. reminded me of that on season in the nfl with the replacement refs. If kyrie and bron and the cavs ball out again, they deserve to win. Same if curry and KD do. There shouldn't be an unfair, clear as the eye can see, advantage to the team that is down. I get that its a business, but it's a sport first.

 

[bballkid11]

notice i didnt say anything about the cavs negatively. I was speaking on the refs and their influence. Call the game fair and let the players decide who wins. 1st 3 games were good games. Outside of bron getting a ton of calls in the 1st qtr of 1 and curry getting a ton the 1st qtr of 3. the games were called fairly even. Game 3 being the best of the series. Game 4 was a mockery of everything we love about this game. It was terrible. The refs made it about them. calling fouls. not calling fouls. it was a tech oh wait..no it wasnt. reminded me of that on season in the nfl with the replacement refs. If kyrie and bron and the cavs ball out again, they deserve to win. Same if curry and KD do. There shouldn't be an unfair, clear as the eye can see, advantage to the team that is down. I get that its a business, but it's a sport first.

 

[abubakr shaheed]

it would be unreal if you actually believed lebron isn't doing enough for his team to win.

I never said what he is doing isnt enough to win.  You specifically asked what he could be doing better.  I said defense because he has been really bad on that end this series.  You dont allow opposing players to shoot 65% while playing good defense.  Just a general observation.

you're right, it was someone else who said that. but i really dont care for stats i dont understand. ive watched every game. he definitely takes plays off, just like every other player out there.

unlike the warriors he doesnt have defensive specialists behind him or next to him, so whatever he's doing is giving his team a chance to win. and that, against what NT claims is the greatest offense of all time. and lets not forget how bad the cavs team defense is, im sure you got some fancy stat for that as well.

 

[niceshoes247]

my bad playa...

 

[junglejim]

you're right, it was someone else who said that. but i really dont care for stats i dont understand. ive watched every game. he definitely takes plays off, just like every other player out there.

unlike the warriors he doesnt have defensive specialists behind him or next to him, so whatever he's doing is giving his team a chance to win. and that, against what NT claims is the greatest offense of all time. and lets not forget how bad the cavs team defense is, im sure you got some fancy stat for that as well.

Its a pretty easy stat to follow.  Just like when you shoot the ball, they track what your shooting percentage is.  We'll this is the same exact thing.  All it tracks is the shooting percentage of players who shot the ball when Lebron is guarding them.  In this case, people are shooting 65% when guarded by Lebron.  

 

[hardens beard]

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Some of Lebron's defensive stats in the finals

 

[abubakr shaheed]

you're right, it was someone else who said that. but i really dont care for stats i dont understand. ive watched every game. he definitely takes plays off, just like every other player out there.


unlike the warriors he doesnt have defensive specialists behind him or next to him, so whatever he's doing is giving his team a chance to win. and that, against what NT claims is the greatest offense of all time. and lets not forget how bad the cavs team defense is, im sure you got some fancy stat for that as well.

Its a pretty easy stat to follow.  Just like when you shoot the ball, they track what your shooting percentage is.  We'll this is the same exact thing.  All it tracks is the shooting percentage of players who shot the ball when Lebron is guarding them.  In this case, people are shooting 65% when guarded by Lebron.  

that doesn't prove his defense is poor. guys make tough shots, sometimes defensive assignments are off, etc.

 

[freeze]

New NT poll

Can you score on Lebronze

 

[hardens beard]

that doesn't prove his defense is poor. guys make tough shots, sometimes defensive assignments are off, etc.

Nah. Even by the eye test he's been bad.

 

[freeze]

you're right, it was someone else who said that. but i really dont care for stats i dont understand. ive watched every game. he definitely takes plays off, just like every other player out there.


unlike the warriors he doesnt have defensive specialists behind him or next to him, so whatever he's doing is giving his team a chance to win. and that, against what NT claims is the greatest offense of all time. and lets not forget how bad the cavs team defense is, im sure you got some fancy stat for that as well.

Its a pretty easy stat to follow.  Just like when you shoot the ball, they track what your shooting percentage is.  We'll this is the same exact thing.  All it tracks is the shooting percentage of players who shot the ball when Lebron is guarding them.  In this case, people are shooting 65% when guarded by Lebron.  

that doesn't prove his defense is poor. guys make tough shots, sometimes defensive assignments are off, etc.

and thats where the eye-test comes in. His defense is swiss cheese b. Like the levee in 9th ward.

 

[junglejim]

that doesn't prove his defense is poor. guys make tough shots, sometimes defensive assignments are off, etc.

The dude is playing lazy transition defense, gets beat on back doors consistently, is getting beat off the dribble, leaving guys wide open from three, has been awful on closeouts on the three point line.  I dont know what games you are watching that has you thinking he has been playing good defense.

 

[abubakr shaheed]

exactly who is lighting up lebron?

im just shocked that majority of NT are warriors fans...its so lame

 

[junglejim]

exactly who is lighting up lebron?

im just shocked that majority of NT are warriors fans...its so lame

Well you yourself said that he is guarding the best players on the court.  KD is averaging 35 ppg.