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[shoelyesses]

And everybody openly acknowledges that Kobe's contract is a train wreck.. So what's your point?

Kyrie isn't a max guy. He's good. And you can win with him, but he's not a max guy. Not if you want to build a team that can win a title.

he easily deserves 14-18 million.....his contract isnt the reason they cant be built into a championship. Dan and the staff + the fact the team is in LeaveLand is the reason they cant/wont win a title.

Hell they couldnt do anything with lebron..... even if iuno you paid kyrie 10-12 million they wouldnt be able to build a chip team, paying kyrie less money doesnt somehow make the cavs a desirable place for free agents, nor does it somehow make the cavs management/ownership competent. 

Whether you paid him 20 mil,15 mil, 10 mil.... that doesnt translate to great/wise ownership/staff and a destination players are willing to live/play. 

 

[frshstunna]

Posting meaningless awards.

All Star weekend ****

 

[shoelyesses]

Anytime you can get John Salmons off your team it's a plus but that was a great deal for the Raptors getting Lou Williams for that turd sandwich.

hawks always make dumb deals like this..... reminds me of that nique etc... trade for danny manning.... hawks is that team that take two steps forward two steps back.... barely a thick and not quite a thin. 

They do just enough to stay somewhat relevant.... they never really do a tank aka overhaul start from scratch...transitional period... and they never really go big and or make the leap to like being a top tier team either... their like a mediocre subpar east coast version of the spurs... theyre the model constant of average/ok

 

[Cashflow]

And if Uncle Drew gets voted to the All Star Game again this upcoming season, he's due a raise because of the Rose Rule :x

 

[fourtyeight48]

Lmao that was funny.

Kyrie won the footlocker 3pt contest and Taco Bell skills challenge so he deserves the Max.

 

[do work son]

Kyrie is making 4 million more than James Harden this upcoming season.

 

[thekillerj23]

Kyrie leaves.............everybody laughs and makes jokes about the city
Kyrie stays............... Cleveland spent too much and everybody cracks jokes

yup, there's no winning with these guys

Typical NT, glad Kyrie is staying, although he has to still prove himself, I like our future going forward with him, wiggins, waiters, etc....lets get it

 

[shoelyesses]

Lmao that was funny.

Kyrie won the footlocker 3pt contest and Taco Bell skills challenge  has to live/play in LeaveLand and for one of the worse ran sports org in all of sports so he deserves the Max.

 

[goldmember]

Kyrie is good but he's always injured. Didn't really improved much the past season. @ 3 point shooting champion and skill challenge = max

 

[frshstunna]

The thing that kills me bout the Hawks-Raptors trade is the Hawks acting like they gonna use the cap space to make a big move

 

[Platinum State]

Im glad Kyrie's staying in Cleveland.
Jeremy Lin is making 14.9 mil next season. Let that sink in.

 

[mister friendly]

Y'all take this "Cleveland sucks" schtick overboard

I bet half y'all have never even spend time there

 

[Peep Game]

Kyrie leaves.............everybody laughs and makes jokes about the city
Kyrie stays............... Cleveland spent too much and everybody cracks jokes

yup, there's no winning with these guys

Welp, guess Kyrie will be leaving to team with a healthy Kobe in 2020 then

 

[100027]

It's a good thing for the Cavs that they resigned him, but Kyrie still has a chance to the next Marbury.

 

[jjs07]

Question:

John Wall or Kyrie Irving to start a franchise right now?

Did Wall get this much flack on NT when he signed the max? 

Wall...ALL day. Runs a team much better, actually plays defense, and has proven that the team can win when he's on the floor. I'm not just talking about last year. When he came back from injury in the 12/13 season, Wall had the team playing .500 ball.

When Wall got the max there were a ton of questions about whether or not he deserved it. I mean, you look around the league and there are players like Steph Curry who make less. At the time of the extension, Wall had A LOT to prove (he still does). However, it looks to be a good investment as both he and the Wizards are on the rise.

Kyrie is a different story, IMO. For as good as he is individually, he has yet to show that he can run a team or be a winner. He was treated w/ kid-gloves up until this year because of the way Lebron left. Kyrie was a media darling, got a **** load of endorsements, all-star berths, etc. He could do no wrong. Well, the grace period is over and he is now going to be EXPECTED to have this team well over .500 and in the playoffs year after year. Any scrutiny that Kyrie gets is warranted because he didn't face an ounce of criticism in his first two seasons as a pro. People were jaded and refused to acknowledge any of his warts.

Wall, on the other hand, was raked over the coals. He was in situation that no other PG in the league would have flourished in. There were immature teammates (Blatche, McGee, Young) as well as the whole Arenas/Crittendon fiasco to deal with. He was unfairly questioned as to why he wasn't winning with the cards he was dealt. Granted he was a #1 overall pick, but that was a lot to deal with in your first few years in the league. Oh, and not to mention the instability of the Wizards front office. He (Wall) had it worse than any other PG in the league. You can't tell me otherwise. Once the Wizards smartened up a bit and flushed out the turds, this is when you saw what Wall could do. We had flashes over the years, but his exploits were overshadowed by the moronic nature of the guys he was playing with.

 

[shoelyesses]

I'm sure Cavs org was like .. well, he's playing in this horrible city and one of the worse org in sports... let's give him the max deal, shall we?


**** outta here with that crap

im sure they did seeing as.... what they were going to let him walk because they could easily go out and get a max player in free agency....oh wait that has never happened in the entire team history.

oh wait they could play try to lowball him because the cavs could go out and get a allstar pg in his prime... oh damn thats right that has never happened in the team history either.

Or wait lol yea they could say hey we cant give you a max deal...because we need to use that money to get great/good championship caliber players....oh wait that has never happened in the history of the team either... 

So....not only is it not crap it has been proven the entire team existence ...but yea your right all of a sudden LeaveLand will be some desirable place to play/live... and allstars, max players will be rushing/dying to play for gilbert and the cavs. Damn the fact it has never ever ever happened... but this year for some unknown unstated reason it wouldve had they not given kyrie a max deal. 

not given him a max deal would change the landscape culture and overall views of LeaveLand as a city and as a nba team...

 

[keel252]

Y'all take this "Cleveland sucks" schtick overboard

I bet half y'all have never even spend time there

why would anybody wanna go there? if pros say a place sucks, a regular joe will def say the same.

and the Irving bash talk is pure troll work.

 

[Hahahaha]

Question:

John Wall or Kyrie Irving to start a franchise right now?

Did Wall get this much flack on NT when he signed the max? 

Kyrie. Never been a big Wall fan but he had a great year.

 

[jjs07]

The Washington Wizards have offered center Marcin Gortat a five-year contract and will re-sign him Tuesday, according to News4's Dianna Russini.

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Per sources The Wizards have offered Gortat a 5 year deal for the center to return. #wizards #NBAFreeAgency

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5 year deal???

Gotta see the numbers...but

I want Gortat back, but not for 5 ******* years!!

 

[antidope]

I had that argument this morning with people because I was also opposed to the Wall contract, but his play has been worth it.

5 years!!!!!!!!! Thats wild

 

[shoelyesses]

Im glad Kyrie's staying in Cleveland.
Jeremy Lin is making 14.9 mil next season. Let that sink in.

arguably one of the worst starting pgs in the league gets about 15 million (granted that was mostly because houston is the fastest growing asian/chinese city in the us, and it was more of trying to draw those fans they lost from yao retirement) yet a allstar pg, one of the better pgs in his conference doesnt deserve 3 million more per year?

 

[do work son]

The Washington Wizards have offered center Marcin Gortat a five-year contract and will re-sign him Tuesday, according to News4's Dianna Russini.

Dianna Marie Russini [emoji]10004[/emoji] @NBCdianna
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Per sources The Wizards have offered Gortat a 5 year deal for the center to return. #wizards #NBAFreeAgency

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5 year deal???

Gotta see the numbers...but

I want Gortat back, but not for 5 ******* years!!

Guarantee it's in the 11 mill a year neighborhood

 

[ThaxbyChamblis]

Kyrie, The Young God

 

[fourtyeight48]

Kyrie is good. He just doesn't deserve th max. Not trolling. I expected way more out of him.

He let me down and showed his true colors.

But w/e Cav fans are delusional.

If Cavs don't make the playoffs in a weaker East I prove my point.

Kyrie the best at leading his team to the lottery.

Wiggins will be gone to Toronto in the future.

Peace.

 

[shoelyesses]

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5 year deal???

Gotta see the numbers...but

I want Gortat back, but not for 5 ******* years!!

yea but look at the situation... what better options do the wiz realistically have...plus you factor lack of bigs in the east and the fact he has proven to be a vital/important player... wiz reallly didnt have too many choices