shoeking2101
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CJ going off right now
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Two guys have take taken substantial cuts to stay home. Dirk and Duncan. Two guys at the end of their careers who only want to win and have no desire to play elsewhere despite max offers from other teams.
And y'all are using that as your outcry against the owners.
Yea cause they ******* over the next generation of players to "win". If it was some scrubs, who really cares, but these are marquee names and cornerstones of franchises here, you can bet it'll be brought up in 2017 and what will those players be able to say? Props to Bron, Kobe, Bosh, and hell even Melo for getting their money. It's the owners job to build a winning team in a system THEY fought for, not the players.
I hope they do get rid of max contract limits next time so we'll see how much these owners actually want to win.
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who the **** said owners (plural) ?Integrity, trust, Friendship............. being used in a conversation about NBA owners & it's players
Yea OKAY.
we're talking about Mark Cuban and Dirk.... this applies to THEM, not anyone else
cmon guy lol
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So the owners are gonna go in there bargain aggressively over Dirk and Duncan taking cuts at the last stage if their careers when nobody anywhere else is taking any sort of cut? OK
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mark cuban bout to send dirk a huge paypal by gift once he retires.
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While where at it... i also think it's dumb to call people trash or downplay the greatness of an individual player if they haven't won a championship... KD is 25 people are already talking about his time winding down?
The only time that is eligible for me is when we start discussing guys who are literally fighting for top 10-20 positioning in the history of the league. Like obviously if your comparing a LBJ to a Jordan than championships have to come into the equation because they are players who both played at an ELITE level.
The only time that is eligible for me is when we start discussing guys who are literally fighting for top 10-20 positioning in the history of the league. Like obviously if your comparing a LBJ to a Jordan than championships have to come into the equation because they are players who both played at an ELITE level.
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I'm still crying at dudes saying there's no way dwade opted out without assurance that bron was resigning. 'nah man, that's hit boy, no way he screws him like that'
on another note thought, bron leaving probably is the best thing for their friendship though. if he had stayed, with as terrible and wade is gonna get, LBJ would only grow to resent him, until one day he catches him in the showers with something sharp to the abdomen
on another note thought, bron leaving probably is the best thing for their friendship though. if he had stayed, with as terrible and wade is gonna get, LBJ would only grow to resent him, until one day he catches him in the showers with something sharp to the abdomen
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Julius Wrek
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y'all are the ones that are making it about that .... money vs winning
he took less money on other conditions, believe that
Dirk = money vs winning vs future luxuries vs family vs etc etc
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Take The Money Mike!! Take The Money Mike!!
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SCREAMIN ... LOL
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If Mike don't sign wit the Cavs then Ray Allen deff will.
lawdog1
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Then I think we will see a league where only a few teams really have a chance to compete for the title every year. Whether they're all billionaires or not, some owners are always going to have more money and resources than others and, if there are no salary limits, will be able to outbid most everyone else.
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Where is Denver going / trying that they want Mike Miller
lawdog1
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What attraction could Denver really have for him? Closer to home? Because they're going to be a lottery team.
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that's how the nba is right now. only a few teams are legit
every yr we talk about 2-5 teams. that's it
lawdog1
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So the owners are gonna go in there bargain aggressively over Dirk and Duncan taking cuts at the last stage if their careers when nobody anywhere else is taking any sort of cut?
This.
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I could understand your point if Dirk hadn't made very much money over his career. Would be very valuable to make sure you were set...
He's made over 200 million dollars in his career.
What future luxuries could you offer a guy that he can't already afford?
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The NBA is historically top heavy year in and out, with relatively little turnover... Dumping max salaries and ramping up the cap is going to limit that even further.
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More money
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offset pow clow
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Are they cheering for the owner?
People who set up the floor & arena shouldnt be treated like avg citizens because the players are who we watch, everybody who works for every pro organization should live a comfortable lifestyle, of course they shouldnt be paid like the players but they should be living very well, it is a 100m+ to billion dollar organization right? Even Towel, water & mop boys should be making bank for the silly **** they do
crazy how this world works, just spread the wealth
elpablo21
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eh.NBA Teams With Titles May Get Some Gold On Their Uniforms
For my money, the best uniform tradition in sports is soccer's custom of putting stars on team crests in honor of past championships. (For a club, that generally means domestic titles; for a nation, World Cups.) It appears that a version of that badge of honor may be coming to NBA jerseys next season.
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.@PhilHecken@sportslogosnet NBA teams will have a gold "mark" on the back collar if the franchise has a title: pic.twitter.com/oDwntb5mSK
You can see the gold mark, too, in images of Celtics and Lakers jerseys.
This comes from designer Conrad Burry, who (along with @TheNBALatest) is sharing a whole bunch of stuff from the Adidas Spring 2015 NBA catalog, which apparently went out to merchandisers today.
(Burry already answered your immediately pressing questions. No, ABA titles don't count, so the Nets don't get a gold mark. Some pre-relocation titles count. For example, the Hawks get a gold mark for their title in St. Louis, but the Thunder don't get one for the Sonics' championship, because that would cause rioting.)
I think it's a great idea. A championship really should be cause for lifetime bragging rights, even if it didn't happen in your lifetime. The NBA's drastic lack of parity means being in the title club is a real accomplishment—by my count, 14 teams wouldn't get to wear the gold marks on their collar (15 if the Kings don't count the 1951 Rochester Royals championship).
Hell, take it a step further and start crediting multiple titles somehow. The Celtics and Lakers don't deserve to be lumped in with the likes of the Bucks.
There is, as of yet, no official confirmation from Adidas or the NBA that this is happening, but they'd be dumb not to do it. I can't think of a smaller uniform change that would spur more fans to buy jerseys they already own, just for that tiny, golden validation.
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So the owners are gonna go in there bargain aggressively over Dirk and Duncan taking cuts at the last stage if their careers when nobody anywhere else is taking any sort of cut?
Perception is reality in this case and when they are being praised and lauded for something like this and Kobe, Melo, Bosh are being vilified for taking their worth (not even what their actually worth to their franchises), you see where fans and others could be swayed. And when it comes to the point of losing a season like it did last time, the backlash will be directed in the player's direction just like it was last time.
I mean the knock on Melo right now is he took the money = he doesn't care about winning. Duncan and Dirk take paycuts = they'll do whatever it takes to win. In a system that YOU have the clear advantage is should it not be incumbent on YOU to make it work? You're reaping all of the benefits while taking minimal risk.
And the fact that Dirk and Duncan won't even be around to have to worry about it is just sad to me.
lawdog1
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Actually, last season there 5 teams in the West alone that people talked about being capable of winning it all (SAS, OKC, LAC, Houston and GSW), along with the Heat and Pacers. Next year the East is going to be just as wide open thanks to LeBron moving to Cleveland.
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