2013-2014 NBA Thread - IND @ WAS and OKC @ LAC on ESPN

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Most athletic guy not named LeBron in the L
Id take G Green or Terrence Willams(i know hes in the D league)
 
Tony Parker is proof that you don't need to be athletic to be great. Crafty as ****

Tony Parker is very athletic. He may not be a high flyer, but in terms of speed, coordination, and quickness, he's top shelf.

Those layups he makes off of the wrong foot aren't easy
 
Parker has been measured to be the fastest player in the league with the ball in his hands


I would say that's pretty athletic
 
is he a sure HOFer?


one thing i hate about TP game is he is soo dominate right handed, dude never ever uses hes left.
 
Tony Parker is very athletic. He may not be a high flyer, but in terms of speed, coordination, and quickness, he's top shelf.

Those layups he makes off of the wrong foot aren't easy
Exactly.
I'm going to the lottery bowl tonight (pistons vs knicks) to watch melo score 50 of the knicks 76 pts
 
Westbrook :x

Most athletic guy not named LeBron in the L

Nah Gerald Green

Gotta factor in speed and quickness as well. Those guys jump a little bit higher, but Westy would torch GGreen / TWill getting down the floor and explosiveness getting to the rim... And he's coming off of 3 knee surgeries.

Guy just has God given ability. :{
 
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Stan Van on Statistical Analysis.  Some great points:

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports....al-data-at-sloan-sports-analytics-conference/

BOSTON –  Stan Van Gundy appeared as part of the basketball analytics panel at the MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference on Friday, and while he isn’t opposed to coaches integrating advanced statistical data into their day-to-day operations, he was concerned about the particulars of how the data is acquired, and who, exactly, is responsible for sorting it all out.

Van Gundy posed legitimate questions that would theoretically need to be addressed before the basketball purists at the NBA level take the data as gospel, and making sure that whoever is identifying certain play types and quantifying them knows basketball, and is doing that job to the specifications of a particular head coach.

“I don’t trust most of it,” Van Gundy said, beginning an exquisite rant on the topic. “I read some of the stuff that people write on ESPN.com, you know, I’ll read stats on pick and roll defense and stuff that came off Synergy or somewhere else — I don’t know who the hell is recording that information!”

“I read a thing in the playoffs last year that said that New York isolated like 17 percent of the time,” he continued. “I’m watching their games, they isolate half of the time, at least. So I don’t know who’s recording that. If there’s a pick and roll, and they throw it back to Carmelo and he holds the ball and isolates for eight seconds, that’s a pick and roll play, not an isolation? And a lot of pick and roll stuff … you know, I read a thing today from ESPN the Magazine on Paul George  being the best pick and roll defender in the league on the ball handler. Look, a lot of pick and rolls … there’s pick and rolls designed to score, and there’s pick and rolls you run to get into something else. If you’re recording it and you’re treating those two things the same, then you don’t know what you’re doing.”

Van Gundy really does like the additional available data — he just needs to be able to trust that whoever is compiling it has the same standards basketball-wise that he does. Ironically enough, I overheard a statistician type at one of the panel discussions explaining to a colleague that of course he watches games — but only to enhance his data set.

“I mean, I do watch the games,” this person said, “to to try to pick up on some things that maybe my numbers aren’t catching.”

This is obviously completely backwards, and as far as Van Gundy is concerned, there’s simply no substitution for the eye test.

“To me, I think that a lot of the analytic stuff can be very useful, but if you’re using that in place of sitting down and watching film yourself and seeing what’s going on, you’re making a big mistake,” Van Gundy said. “And I don’t want to offend anybody, but I think one of the problems with analytics — I think it’s good; I used it, I love looking at it — but one of the problems is, there are a lot of people in a lot of organizations who don’t know the game, who all they know is analytics and as a result, that’s what they rely on. And they will use that to supersede what guys like us see with our eyes. And I think that’s a major mistake. There’s no substitute for watching film over and over and over again, and the only numbers I trust are the ones that my people believe.”

Van Gundy isn’t alone in his hesitance, and it will take some time before everyone trusts the way that the bulk of the data is quantified and labeled for mass consumption.
 
im def saying he doesnt get the job done bc he murders fools. i just hate it, like he brings the ball up the left side of the court with his right hand. irks the crap outta me.


big 3 will be in no doubt about it.
 
Jo is one of the most annoying players in the league. He's a fake "tough" guy


Says the guy who's entire team is built around "fake tough guys"



Your man got punked by Nazr Mohammed though

Also failed to mention Noah is from Florida so that must be a reflection on y'all :lol
bang

I love how everyone is a "fake" tough guy even though they would squash 95% of NTers :lol


I guess you have to rush the crowd and beat up a fan to be considered a real tough guy 8o
let me know when noah tries some antics against guys he knows are bout that.

:rollin

last one you had was shaq .,......srs
 
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