2013-2014 NBA Thread - IND @ WAS and OKC @ LAC on ESPN

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Nelson999 said:
TommyIceRocking said:
 
still wondering how Goran Dragic didn't get selected as a reserve for the ASG?
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Who would you remove from the West team for Dragic? 

And Dragic has kind of pedestrian PG numbers so i don't quite see why he is considered such a snub. looking at other PGs in the West alone, his numbers are almost IDENTICAL to Isaiah Thomas and Mike Conley and they aren't even being talked about as All-Stars. and Ty Lawson has better numbers than Dragic.

Dragic: 19.9 PPG 6.1ast 3.4reb 2.8tov 1.3stl 
Thomas: 19.9PPG 6.3ast 2.8reb 2.8tov 1.3stl 
Conley 18.2PPG 6.3ast 2.6reb 2.0tov 1.5stl
Lawson 17.9PPG 8.9ast 3.4reb 3.9tov 1.5stl
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Thank you, I don't know why people keep talking about Dragic like he's the only underrated PG in the West. Obviously some of those dudes were gonna get snubbed
 
Warriors the hungrier team tonight. That's the clear difference in this game.
 
Conley and Goran are too similar to not throw wins into the equation. The Suns are in the playoffs because of him. By that token alone, he's the bigger snub out of him and Conley.
 
bhzmafia14 said:
Just like Stein reported....Conley is the real snub. I don't think no one realizes the kinda injuries the Grizz had and the fact that Conley is the best player on a team that made the WCF last year. Conley putting up nearly identical numbers as Dragic on a team last in the league in pace, while Phoenix is #6. Conley has a higher assist rate as well. As mentioned before, averages do not tell the whole story all the time. Averages will tell you that Thomas, Dragic and Conley are all on the same level as players and that's simply not true.

At least Conley will get to rest up for a bigger run during the 2nd half of the season. I do think Dragic is very underrated, though.
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i agree with you on Conley productive this season and the Grizzles being over 500% with all their injuries to their star players is insane, but wit that said, I still don't think he matches the impact Goran has on the Suns and how good they're...(Suns just beat the best team record wise in the NBA)

Goran shoots less than Conley despite the offensive pace, has a better FG%, PER, Team Record (10-8 w/o Bledsoe this season, currently on a 4 game win streak)
Nelson999 said:
 
Who would you remove from the West team for Dragic? 

And Dragic has kind of pedestrian PG numbers so i don't quite see why he is considered such a snub. looking at other PGs in the West alone, his numbers are almost IDENTICAL to Isaiah Thomas and Mike Conley and they aren't even being talked about as All-Stars. and Ty Lawson has better numbers than Dragic.

Dragic: 19.9 PPG 6.1ast 3.4reb 2.8tov 1.3stl 

Thomas: 19.9PPG 6.3ast 2.8reb 2.8tov 1.3stl 

Conley 18.2PPG 6.3ast 2.6reb 2.0tov 1.5stl

Lawson 17.9PPG 8.9ast 3.4reb 3.9tov 1.5stl
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with a str8 face, I'm saying Damian Lillard.
 
DT43 said:
Thank you, I don't know why people keep talking about Dragic like he's the only underrated PG in the West. Obviously some of those dudes were gonna get snubbed
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i have no idea why son had Thomas numbers posted with those guards....i know Isiah is like 5'8 so it's impressive, but c'mon he isn't an all-star caliber player and his team record shows that.

Ty Lawson is doing his thing too, but many expected dem to be a much better team record wise, and it seems like they are going in the wrong direction, and i know about their injuries and new coaching staff.

If we are looking for Stats, Goran is the biggest guard snub in both the East/West, if we are looking for team impact, Goran is still the biggest snub.
 
Addict4Sneakers said:
my main man Blake Griffin
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are you all believers that he is better than kevin love yet?
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Hes still not, but this has been his year
 
You guys are right on Dragic, that's why I'm not even upset about Conley not making it. If Memphis was in better positioning in terms of playoff seeding, I think it would be no question. Its hard to justify it when you're a 9th seed. I also think Lillard is becoming overrated and this year's version of Kyrie Irving. *puts on flame suit*

Portland only should've had one all-star and that's LMA. Dragic could've made it over Lillard. I would like to see someone actually justify why Lillard should make it over some of the other PG's outside of his team being 3rd in the West. He's not even the best player on his team, his PER is the lowest amongst Dragic and conley, Dragic has a higher TS% than he does, Dragic has a worse team in the playoffs right now, etc.

I will say this...if Memphis gets a playoff spot within the next week (only 1/2 game back from Dallas), then I guess Conley has a stronger argument. :lol
 
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Anyone read this from RealGM

“Kyrie Irving has been telling people privately he wants out,” wrote Chad Ford.

Irving becomes eligible for a contract extension this offseason and will presumably receive a max offer from the Cavaliers. Irving could become a restricted free agent in the 2015 offseason meaning he could not leave outright until 2016.
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So the thunder have the best record in the league and only get 1 all-star..

Playing in the west
 
bhzmafia14 said:
You guys are right on Dragic, that's why I'm not even upset about Conley not making it. If Memphis was in better positioning in terms of playoff seeding, I think it would be no question. Its hard to justify it when you're a 9th seed. I also think Lillard is becoming overrated and this year's version of Kyrie Irving. *puts on flame suit*

Portland only should've had one all-star and that's LMA. Dragic could've made it over Lillard. I would like to see someone actually justify why Lillard should make it over some of the other PG's outside of his team being 3rd in the West. He's not even the best player on his team, his PER is the lowest amongst Dragic and conley, Dragic has a higher TS% than he does, Dragic has a worse team in the playoffs right now, etc.

I will say this...if Memphis gets a playoff spot within the next week (only 1/2 game back from Dallas), then I guess Conley has a stronger argument. :lol
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Yeahhhh but Lillard is like 21 6 & 4 on the 3rd best team in a stacked western conference. That's easily an all star
 
bhzmafia14 said:
You guys are right on Dragic, that's why I'm not even upset about Conley not making it. If Memphis was in better positioning in terms of playoff seeding, I think it would be no question. Its hard to justify it when you're a 9th seed. I also think Lillard is becoming overrated and this year's version of Kyrie Irving. *puts on flame suit*

Portland only should've had one all-star and that's LMA. Dragic could've made it over Lillard. I would like to see someone actually justify why Lillard should make it over some of the other PG's outside of his team being 3rd in the West. He's not even the best player on his team, his PER is the lowest amongst Dragic and conley, Dragic has a higher TS% than he does, Dragic has a worse team in the playoffs right now, etc.

I will say this...if Memphis gets a playoff spot within the next week (only 1/2 game back from Dallas), then I guess Conley has a stronger argument.
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word, i think Lillard is getting a little overrated as well.
hypebeast5 said:
Anyone read this from RealGM
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lol if that is legit, he is a bum
 
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