2011 New York Jets Season Thread ( 8-8 ) SHOTTY STEPS DOWN , PLAYERS BASH SANCHEZ ....

[bkmac]

Jets' Brian Schottenheimer's plan questioned by Plaxico Burress, Santonio Holmes, Mason: source

Four weeks into a season with Super Bowl expectations, the locker-room complaints have grown louder in light of the Jets' offensive struggles.

The Daily News has learned that wide receivers Santonio Holmes, Plaxico Burress and Derrick Mason have individually gone to Rex Ryan in the past few weeks to question offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer's system.

Gang Green, losers of two straight entering today's game against the Patriots, ranks near the bottom of the league in total offense (25th) and rushing offense (30th).

Despite the fact that the Jets have been pass-heavy during the first month - they've thrown it 62% of the time - the receivers clearly aren't happy with the offense. Their decision to meet with Ryan at different points in the past month is a clear indictment of the offensive philosophy.

Holmes and Mason average three catches per game. Burress only averages 2.5. The trio has combined for 35 receptions for 432 yards. Patriots wide receiver Wes Welker, on the other hand, has 40 catches for 616 yards.

"We just grind for everything," a source told The News. "Nothing's ever easy."

Despite the organization's efforts to surround Mark Sanchez with plenty of weapons, the offense has sputtered. Gang Green had only seven first downs, 150 total yards and three points from the offense in the 34-17 loss to the Ravens last week.

Only the Broncos and Steelers have had more turnovers than the Jets' 10 giveaways (five fumbles, five interceptions) through the first four games. Baltimore scored 24 points off four of them.

The offense is tied for 24th in the league in third-down efficiency and first downs and 30th in yards gained on first down.

"Underwhelming," a source said.

Schottenheimer accepted the blame for the meltdown last week.

"We were really just kind of struggling, calling bad plays and not executing as clean as we need to do," Schottenheimer said. "I take responsibility for that … I think there have been cracks throughout certain times of our play."

The offensive woes against the Ravens prompted Holmes and Mason to speak out.

"Obviously, there's things that have to change," Mason said after the game. "There's some cracks. And don't nobody really want to identify the cracks. Until we identify the cracks, we're going to keep having the same problems. Whenever somebody wants to seal up the cracks, then we'll continue to move forward as an offense."

The receivers' decisions to approach the head coach during a season when the Jets are throwing it more than ever under Ryan speaks volumes about their feelings about the play-calling. Wideouts don't typically want to change when they're part of a pass-friendly offense. However, all of them recognize the importance of re-establishing a ground attack that has lost its way. To that end, Ryan admitted that his team will lean more on the ground-and-pound attack moving forward to re-establish a more physical mind-set.

"I'm not going to make any calls, any play calls or whatever," Ryan said. "I'll certainly give my opinion. I'm there to help."

After the loss to the Ravens, Holmes pointed out multiple failures on offense.

"We got to do a better job of running the football," Holmes said at the time. "That will be the key to jump-starting our offense... We definitely have to focus more on what we have to do running the ball and get the ball in the hands of the playmakers. Give our guy (Sanchez) a little bit of time so he can deliver the ball to the guys that can make plays for us."

Sanchez told reporters that any future critical comments by his teammates would stay in-house.

Despite the subpar start, the Jets' offense will likely have opportunities to exploit the Patriots, who rank last in total defense. Although Gang Green only averages 4.6 yards on first downs (30th in the league), New England is giving up a league-high 8.8 yards on first down.

If the offense sputters again Sunday, the dissension may become more widespread.

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[bkmac]

Jets' Brian Schottenheimer's plan questioned by Plaxico Burress, Santonio Holmes, Mason: source

Four weeks into a season with Super Bowl expectations, the locker-room complaints have grown louder in light of the Jets' offensive struggles.

The Daily News has learned that wide receivers Santonio Holmes, Plaxico Burress and Derrick Mason have individually gone to Rex Ryan in the past few weeks to question offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer's system.

Gang Green, losers of two straight entering today's game against the Patriots, ranks near the bottom of the league in total offense (25th) and rushing offense (30th).

Despite the fact that the Jets have been pass-heavy during the first month - they've thrown it 62% of the time - the receivers clearly aren't happy with the offense. Their decision to meet with Ryan at different points in the past month is a clear indictment of the offensive philosophy.

Holmes and Mason average three catches per game. Burress only averages 2.5. The trio has combined for 35 receptions for 432 yards. Patriots wide receiver Wes Welker, on the other hand, has 40 catches for 616 yards.

"We just grind for everything," a source told The News. "Nothing's ever easy."

Despite the organization's efforts to surround Mark Sanchez with plenty of weapons, the offense has sputtered. Gang Green had only seven first downs, 150 total yards and three points from the offense in the 34-17 loss to the Ravens last week.

Only the Broncos and Steelers have had more turnovers than the Jets' 10 giveaways (five fumbles, five interceptions) through the first four games. Baltimore scored 24 points off four of them.

The offense is tied for 24th in the league in third-down efficiency and first downs and 30th in yards gained on first down.

"Underwhelming," a source said.

Schottenheimer accepted the blame for the meltdown last week.

"We were really just kind of struggling, calling bad plays and not executing as clean as we need to do," Schottenheimer said. "I take responsibility for that … I think there have been cracks throughout certain times of our play."

The offensive woes against the Ravens prompted Holmes and Mason to speak out.

"Obviously, there's things that have to change," Mason said after the game. "There's some cracks. And don't nobody really want to identify the cracks. Until we identify the cracks, we're going to keep having the same problems. Whenever somebody wants to seal up the cracks, then we'll continue to move forward as an offense."

The receivers' decisions to approach the head coach during a season when the Jets are throwing it more than ever under Ryan speaks volumes about their feelings about the play-calling. Wideouts don't typically want to change when they're part of a pass-friendly offense. However, all of them recognize the importance of re-establishing a ground attack that has lost its way. To that end, Ryan admitted that his team will lean more on the ground-and-pound attack moving forward to re-establish a more physical mind-set.

"I'm not going to make any calls, any play calls or whatever," Ryan said. "I'll certainly give my opinion. I'm there to help."

After the loss to the Ravens, Holmes pointed out multiple failures on offense.

"We got to do a better job of running the football," Holmes said at the time. "That will be the key to jump-starting our offense... We definitely have to focus more on what we have to do running the ball and get the ball in the hands of the playmakers. Give our guy (Sanchez) a little bit of time so he can deliver the ball to the guys that can make plays for us."

Sanchez told reporters that any future critical comments by his teammates would stay in-house.

Despite the subpar start, the Jets' offense will likely have opportunities to exploit the Patriots, who rank last in total defense. Although Gang Green only averages 4.6 yards on first downs (30th in the league), New England is giving up a league-high 8.8 yards on first down.

If the offense sputters again Sunday, the dissension may become more widespread.

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[Kimchi Papi]

^The story bkmac posted doesn't bode well for The Jets. I never really thought Shotty was good enough to be an OC, seems like a decent guy but not an OC. Hope Big Green can turn this thing around...Still early in the season...

 

[Kimchi Papi]

^The story bkmac posted doesn't bode well for The Jets. I never really thought Shotty was good enough to be an OC, seems like a decent guy but not an OC. Hope Big Green can turn this thing around...Still early in the season...

 

[tony906]

Shotty has to go period point blank then Sanchez

 

[tony906]

Shotty has to go period point blank then Sanchez

 

[DeadsetAce]

anyone got the NY post headlines? curious to see who the focus of their criticism was. i assume it was schotty?

 

[DeadsetAce]

anyone got the NY post headlines? curious to see who the focus of their criticism was. i assume it was schotty?

 

[onewearz]

^ take a walk , comin in here with ya happy a$s avy looking for headlines

been a long week bro ......

 

[onewearz]

^ take a walk , comin in here with ya happy a$s avy looking for headlines

been a long week bro ......

 

[dadecounty11]

Beating the Jets on Monday night, in New York (NJ) for the first win of the season, and at the same time dropping them to 2-4.

I'll take it.

 

[dadecounty11]

Beating the Jets on Monday night, in New York (NJ) for the first win of the season, and at the same time dropping them to 2-4.

I'll take it.

 

[DeadsetAce]

Originally Posted by onewearz

^ take a walk , comin in here with ya happy a$s avy looking for headlines

been a long week bro ......

speaking of avys.....

 

[DeadsetAce]

Originally Posted by onewearz

^ take a walk , comin in here with ya happy a$s avy looking for headlines

been a long week bro ......

speaking of avys.....

 

[703flipfiend]

So Mason is gone. Farewell, old man!

 

[703flipfiend]

So Mason is gone. Farewell, old man!

 

[onewearz]

So we traded Mason to the texans for picks. Musta really pissed Rex off

 

[onewearz]

So we traded Mason to the texans for picks. Musta really pissed Rex off

 

[sircharles2ol3]

Such a bad week for NY sports

... This team better beat the damn Dolphins or we will be the laughing stock of the AFC East

 

[sircharles2ol3]

Such a bad week for NY sports

... This team better beat the damn Dolphins or we will be the laughing stock of the AFC East

 

[cedric ceballos 1995 lakers]

i don't see them losing to the dolphins. i honestly think everything is getting overblown. aside from the ravens game they haven't looked flat out bad in any of the games.

that said, i hope they beat the dolphins and beat the crap outta them on monday. none of this schotty ball and letting them stick around nonsense.

 

[cedric ceballos 1995 lakers]

i don't see them losing to the dolphins. i honestly think everything is getting overblown. aside from the ravens game they haven't looked flat out bad in any of the games.

that said, i hope they beat the dolphins and beat the crap outta them on monday. none of this schotty ball and letting them stick around nonsense.

 

[bkmac]

Originally Posted by sircharles2ol3

Such a bad week for NY sports

... This team better beat the damn Dolphins or we will be the laughing stock of the AFC East

For real. Obviously the Dolphins are beatable, and I think the Chargers are too. If we can head into the bye at 4-3...

.

 

[bkmac]

Originally Posted by sircharles2ol3

Such a bad week for NY sports

... This team better beat the damn Dolphins or we will be the laughing stock of the AFC East

For real. Obviously the Dolphins are beatable, and I think the Chargers are too. If we can head into the bye at 4-3...

.

 

[d3si]

I'm surprised to hear about the Mason trade. 

The Jets refused to divulge the nature of that conversation, but the team was disappointed with Mason because he wasn't learning the playbook as quickly as they had hoped, according to a source. Mason went home to Nashville every Monday and Tuesday to be with his family, and that may have contributed to his struggles, the source said.

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/sto...n-houston-texans-conditional-pick-sources-say