[::2009 Champion LAKERS OFF-SEASON THREAD Vol. Boring Non-News Days Causing In-Thread Tension::]

[dyyhard]

critt > Sasha > Steph

 

[licensed to ball]

We dont need Steph. We dont need Gooden. We dont need Sasha. *ahem* excuse me. We dont need anyone elseexcept Lamar Odom.

 

[iminchucks5]

Originally Posted by dyyhard

critt > Sasha > Steph

cosign..the dude can ball when givin the minutes..he was put in horrible position with that garbage coach of washington...now they got foye andarenas 100%.

 

[ledafuture36]

I can care less if he stays anymore... He's a complete *** in my book... 3 years 27 million is a amazing offer for someone who does not bring it everynight and is a bench player.. and if he wants 5 years then maybe he should of put 100% on the floor every game.. A 3 year deal is too short because he does notwanna have to earn another contract.. So if we gave him 5 years he could play half *** and not have to worry about it

Yes Odom is one of the MANY reasonswhy the Lakers won the championship but I still remember how many times I have cursed at my TV screen because of his bad decisions and poor play.. Nothingsworse then when you KNOW a player isn't giving his best effort on the court.. Like I have said before I honestly would rather have a player with less"talent" and "versatility" then Odom if that guy left everything on the floor every night.. I won't lose any sleep if LO leaves andthough I know the chances to repeat will be VERY difficult this year without him.. At least I know the players on the court are giving their all...

 

[jumpman jam]

Miss Critt, Felt Like That Kid Had Something
Reports That Wilcox Is On The Move To Detroit

Feel Like He Would Have Been A Good Addition

 

[solefob]

doesn't look good
Buss needs to let go of his anger and get lamar signed cuz Josh Powell as the backup PF doesn't cut it and the Lakers lose what makes them the most versatile team in the league.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-lakers-odom19-2009jul19,0,2136246.story

From the Los Angeles Times
[h4]LAKERS[/h4][h1]Lamar Odom is still without a team[/h1]
Veteran's status is the same after team pulls offer off the table.
By Broderick Turner

July 19, 2009

Another day has gone by and Lamar Odom remains a free agent without a team.

The Lakers lost interest and pulled their deal off the table when Odom and his agent didn't respond quickly enough to the offer.

Essentially, the Lakers offered Odom a guaranteed contract worth $30 million, depending on the length of the deal.

Odom prefers a five-year deal but appeared willing to accept the Lakers' offer if they had guaranteed all four years.

The Lakers' offer before it was removed was for four years at $9 million a season. But only three years of the deal were guaranteed.

The Lakers held the option for the fourth season and had guaranteed Odom $3 million if they decided to buy him out.

The Lakers also offered Odom a three-year deal that would have paid him $10 million a season.

Either way, at least in the Lakers' eyes, Odom would have been paid at least $30 million with the opportunity to earn more.

Lakers owner Jerry Buss withdrew his offer Tuesday because he was unhappy that Odom and his people waited so long to respond to the team's offer andbecause Odom spoke to Miami Heat President Pat Riley to discuss a deal. Buss is still upset.

Odom had conversations with the Heat about signing for the mid-level exception of $5.8 million.

The Heat would have given Odom a five-year deal for $34 million, and probably the opportunity to opt out after three seasons and become a free agent in 2012.

Calls to Odom from teammates Derek Fisher on Thursday and Kobe Bryant on Wednesday failed to settle the issues.

Odom and his representatives are expected to make a decision this week on his future.

If he is able to get Buss to re-open negotiations, Odom, who turns 30 on Nov. 6, may have to take less than the $9 million a season that was originallyoffered.

After the Utah Jazz matched the offer Portland gave Paul Millsap, the Trail Blazers have about $8 million to offer another player.

But it appears they don't have any interest in Odom, and he doesn't appear to have interest in Portland.

The Lakers could also risk losing Odom and getting nothing in return if he goes to another team.

 

[iminchucks5]

Originally Posted by ledafuture36

I can care less if he stays anymore... He's a complete *** in my book... 3 years 27 million is a amazing offer for someone who does not bring it every night and is a bench player.. and if he wants 5 years then maybe he should of put 100% on the floor every game.. A 3 year deal is too short because he does not wanna have to earn another contract.. So if we gave him 5 years he could play half *** and not have to worry about it

Yes Odom is one of the MANY reasons why the Lakers won the championship but I still remember how many times I have cursed at my TV screen because of his bad decisions and poor play.. Nothings worse then when you KNOW a player isn't giving his best effort on the court.. Like I have said before I honestly would rather have a player with less "talent" and "versatility" then Odom if that guy left everything on the floor every night.. I won't lose any sleep if LO leaves and though I know the chances to repeat will be VERY difficult this year without him.. At least I know the players on the court are giving their all...

a simple "i just dont like odom" wouldnt be enough?

 

[thachosen123]

Originally Posted by solefob



doesn't look good
Buss needs to let go of his anger and get lamar signed cuz Josh Powell as the backup PF doesn't cut it and the Lakers lose what makes them the most versatile team in the league.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-lakers-odom19-2009jul19,0,2136246.story

From the Los Angeles Times
[h4]LAKERS[/h4] [h1]Lamar Odom is still without a team[/h1]
Veteran's status is the same after team pulls offer off the table.
By Broderick Turner

July 19, 2009

Another day has gone by and Lamar Odom remains a free agent without a team.

The Lakers lost interest and pulled their deal off the table when Odom and his agent didn't respond quickly enough to the offer.

Essentially, the Lakers offered Odom a guaranteed contract worth $30 million, depending on the length of the deal.

Odom prefers a five-year deal but appeared willing to accept the Lakers' offer if they had guaranteed all four years.

The Lakers' offer before it was removed was for four years at $9 million a season. But only three years of the deal were guaranteed.

The Lakers held the option for the fourth season and had guaranteed Odom $3 million if they decided to buy him out.

The Lakers also offered Odom a three-year deal that would have paid him $10 million a season.

Either way, at least in the Lakers' eyes, Odom would have been paid at least $30 million with the opportunity to earn more.

Lakers owner Jerry Buss withdrew his offer Tuesday because he was unhappy that Odom and his people waited so long to respond to the team's offer and because Odom spoke to Miami Heat President Pat Riley to discuss a deal. Buss is still upset.

Odom had conversations with the Heat about signing for the mid-level exception of $5.8 million.

The Heat would have given Odom a five-year deal for $34 million, and probably the opportunity to opt out after three seasons and become a free agent in 2012.

Calls to Odom from teammates Derek Fisher on Thursday and Kobe Bryant on Wednesday failed to settle the issues.

Odom and his representatives are expected to make a decision this week on his future.

If he is able to get Buss to re-open negotiations, Odom, who turns 30 on Nov. 6, may have to take less than the $9 million a season that was originally offered.

After the Utah Jazz matched the offer Portland gave Paul Millsap, the Trail Blazers have about $8 million to offer another player.

But it appears they don't have any interest in Odom, and he doesn't appear to have interest in Portland.

The Lakers could also risk losing Odom and getting nothing in return if he goes to another team.

this article so unnecessary(not from you solefob), but from whoever wrote it, all I get from this is "nothing has changed since Thursday"............come on LATimes you're better than that

 

[ptngina]

Newest Laker Ron Artest tells Lamar Odom to meet him in Los Angeles
BY Mark Lelinwalla
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

Sunday, July 19th 2009, 4:00 AM

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Now that he's a Laker, Queensbridge product Ron Artest is lobbying for the defending NBA champs.

The former St. John's star says he has reached out to fellow Queens star Lamar Odom, who has yet to re-sign with L.A. and turned down a four-year, $36 million offer. And Artest thinks their home-borough connection will do the trick.

"I hope that helps," said Artest, who drew a crowd as he made an impromptu appearance with the Queensbridge team in the Hoops in the Sun tournament at Orchard Beach in the Bronx Saturday. "I hope he comes back to play with us. I already reached out to him and will (again)."

Artest's remarks came on the heels of Heat superstar Dwyane Wade telling The Associated Press earlier in the week that he wants Odom "back home (in Miami)." Odom and Wade were Heat teammates in 2003-04.

Artest also told the Daily News that before he inked his five-year, $33 million deal with the Lakers earlier this month, he gave heavy consideration to signing with LeBron James, Shaquille O'Neal and the Cleveland Cavaliers.

"It was close (to happening), but the Lakers showed more interest," Artest said. "They're my boys (James and O'Neal), though. Shaq is still my boy. I'm looking forward to playing with Kobe and going after a championship."

Saturday, Artest continued his tear on New York City's streetball circuit, playing the second half with the Queensbridge team. It's fitting since he has a "Q" tattooed on his right leg and a "B" on his left, never forgetting where he came from. Artest scored 12 points, although Hoop Street beat Queensbridge, 68-63.

And Artest wasn't worried about playing in a pickup game despite having recently signed a new contract.

"I've been playing for years ... I just like to stay in shape," he said. "I love the game."

Artest appeared in many of the city's streetball hotbeds earlier in the week and told Hoops in the Sun organizers that he'll return for their all-star game at Orchard Beach today.



Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/2009/07/19/2009-07-19_ron_artest_tells_lamar_odom_to_meet_him_in_la.html#ixzz0Lhhz4QFI

 

[MVP]

^ Good. If Ron convinces LO to stay I wonder if that will bring CP around

 

[antbanks81]

I don't know what the hell is on LO's mind. Like Ledafuture wrote, he is getting paid to come off the bench and not give his all. He really istripping. Unless he goes to the Celtics (no I haven't heard anything) he is not winning a championship. Heat, Trailblazers or Mavericks are not going topresent him with the chance to play in June.

I know that you play professional sports to get paid, but you play sports to win. Ariza already made the bonehead move, LO should be smarter than thatapproaching 30. Did he hear Artest talk about how badly he wants a ring? Some of these guys get one ring and their focus goes right back to the money.

This should have been done a long time ago.

 

[grimey]

Lamar is playing it smart if you ask me, because he knows they want him and need him and it would be hard to replace him unlike Trev. It's just bad for usfans because we have to wait and see what happens.

 

[badboyf0life420]

just hit me, this is the first thing ariza ever did that made merealize this dude is going to be great, hopefully he has a good career with the rockets and just wont be a bust

 

[e3lal]

Grimey wrote:

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Lamar is playing it smart if you ask me, because he knows they want him and need him and it would be hard to replace him unlike Trev. It's just bad for us fans because we have to wait and see what happens.
Completely agree. He's already cutting his salary from 14 million to 10 million. Although he's coming off the bench and not required todo much, he has those tools that make him a 9/10 million dollar player. He stepped up his play in the playoffs and the Finals where it counts. There isn'ta single player that we could sign to fill his void if he walks. Also, can anyone blame a player for trying to get a longer contract?

 

[tupac003]

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Who knows. He is going to do what he is going to do.

I don't see how Lamar is playing it smart to be honest with you. He can go to the heat and make less money for more years, or could make more money withthe lakers for less years.

I don't know. I really really can't call it.

 

[mjsaver]

Whats with all the LO's a bench player stuff?????

He could start for nearly every team in the league...

He comes off the bench because its better for the team, like GINOBILI & TERRY...

If u dont agree with his demands then w/e, but using that bench talk as an excuse is weak...

 

[MVP]

Originally Posted by tupac003


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Who knows. He is going to do what he is going to do.

I don't see how Lamar is playing it smart to be honest with you. He can go to the heat and make less money for more years, or could make more money with the lakers for less years.

I don't know. I really really can't call it.

Agreed, this mathematically and basketball wise makes no sense, he'll get more money in a shorter period of time from the Lakers and will havean opportunity to win a championship EVERY year OR option #2, get less money over a longer period of time and more than likely not be a serious contender untilhe's at the very end of his contract. Seems like a no brainer, but this dude clearly doesn't have em all. All of these conflicting reports about whatLA has offered him is strange as well, some are saying that we only did 3yrs/27 mil, others 3yrs/30 mil and 4yrs/36 mil. All I know is that 9 or 10 mil a yearis greater than 7.2 which is what he would be getting from Miami.

 

[noblekane]

you guys have to remember these players getting signed off contract years.... we will all be back to bashing lamar if he does re sign with his no look pass tosasha on the bench/dribble off the butt self... can we all agree sasha fits in this category of contract year players screwing teams over? dampier aswell

 

[iminchucks5]

^ lamar aint one to screw a team off contract year..look at his stats..hes been averaging the same stats nearly his whole career

 

[grimey]

Originally Posted by imINchucks5

^ lamar aint one to screw a team off contract year..look at his stats..hes been averaging the same stats nearly his whole career

I agree plus he was good with coming off bench and stepping up when he had to due to Bynum's injury. He deserves to get a good contract this off-seasonIMO.

 

[Los Angeles]

This contract situation reminds me so much of the whole Manny Ramirez ordeal.

The market was very scarce for Manny, a few smokescreens here and there - and no real solid offer from any team.

Same could be said with LO ... Miami Heat has surfaced from out of nowhere and will provide him with the MLE.

Trust me, let things pan out and let negotiations take its course.

If Lamar does end up leaving, there's no one to blame but his Odumbass self.

 

[nimo007]

If Miami signs him again, I hope they're ready for this...

 

[noblekane]

NIMO007 wrote:

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If Miami signs him again, I hope they're ready for this...

whos got the no look pass to sasha on the bench video?

 

[iminchucks5]

yall act like he does that on consistant basis..be real

 

[tupac003]

Originally Posted by bright nikes

This contract situation reminds me so much of the whole Manny Ramirez ordeal.

The market was very scarce for Manny, a few smokescreens here and there - and no real solid offer from any team.

Same could be said with LO ... Miami Heat has surfaced from out of nowhere and will provide him with the MLE.

Trust me, let things pan out and let negotiations take its course.

If Lamar does end up leaving, there's no one to blame but his Odumbass self.

I remember there was an article comparing LO's situation with Manny's.

I just hope it works out like Manny.

I think Laker nation is split. Some folks bring up the bench aspect and figure we don't need him. Some of us just see him a a glue guy that is VITAL to theteam.

All I know is I want another parade. If Lamar wants one he comes back. If this organization wants one we find a way for him to come back.

Its simple.