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Moving back stateside in the summer. Need NBC to pick up every leagues rights. Their coverage is :hat
 
 
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As a Roma fan I NEED to go to a derby before I pass away.
Bro, the way you phrased that makes me really sad 
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Moving back stateside in the summer. Need NBC to pick up every leagues rights. Their coverage is
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Glad to hear that 
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Bale isn't the problem or the one to blame for Los Blancos' recent lack of form.

Yes, the team was playing fantastic when he was out and Isco played in his spot, but you know who was controlling that mid and making it easier for every one else? Luka. Modric.

James hasn't been playing well, hell, even CR7. With Modric out that leaves Kroos holding down the mid and even though he's done a terrific job you can see him getting tired out there as the season progresses. Luka and Kroos together are really something else.

I can't stand watching Khedira play in a Madrid shirt, why? Because he plays like a complete moron for the club but for Germany he's pure class. Baffles me each damn time.

In other news, speaking of De Gea..

http://as.com/diarioas/2015/01/09/english/1420792572_225031.html
 
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i honestly rate DDG better.. especially in 1 v 1 situations...i also question courtois's distribution at times, but DDG has his moments too.. i like how DDG plays as an 11th outfield player, he reads the game a lot like Neur, plays go through him.. i just don't see that from Courtois.. just my opinion

I think you need to watch Chelsea play more. Courtois is a much better distributors of the ball then DDG. Him and Lloris make such accurate long balls, Curtois is also looking to quickly distribute the ball and start the Chelsea counter attack. No hate on DDG but Courtois is younger and has accomplished more at his age
 
Courtois is really getting used to distributing the ball more or even differently than he did at Atleti. Jose prefers his keepers to pass/throw balls from defense rather than the long punts Cholo preferred from his keepers.

Saw an interview a while back with Chelsea keeper coach Christophe Lollichon who said he was working with with Courtois on his distribution because that's one of his weaknesses coming over to the Blues from Atleti.

Courtois is also used to his defenders holding a low block whereas Chelsea play with the defense a greater distance from the keeper. Lollichon also said the other area he's been working on Courtois with was commanding the defense more (being more vocal than he is).

Having said that, If I had to choose DdG is the better keeper out of the 2 by a decent margin.

DdG is much more authoritative with the defense in front of him. He's constantly shouting at them & using hand signals too. Courtois doesn't command his defense the same & isn't as authoritative. Courtois' keeper coach even said so.

Edit - UEFA's 2014 team of the year.

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Solid post rafool rafool ! It's funny whenever the team does well, Bale is a beast... Whenever the team does bad, it's all Bale's fault. Everyone seems to key in on him rather than seeing the other flaws too. :lol
 
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That Uefa team of the year is a complete joke. Alaba, Kroos, Di Maria and Zlatan shouldn't even be on that team. Uefa and FIFA are so bias that its a joke
 
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How is the bundsliga that good of a league? A team might be competitive for 1-3 season but every team knows that they will lose their best player to Bayern. Now league can be that good when 1 team has the financial power of half the league combined
 
From top to bottom German teams are stronger overall. Yeah your gonna get poached by Bayern but they produce a consistent amount of talent year by year, which is why there is so much change up Dortmund and Bayern aside within the top squads. Check the Bundesliga tables from past years to now....much more variation than England.

The BPL is just now seeing lower level squads make that jump. Southhampton, Everton (they are heading downward), Newcastle has found themselves back to being a somewhat decent team after being a punching bag for the first few months. Not to mention Germany has the most teams in the Champions League right now.
 
Bale isn't the problem or the one to blame for Los Blancos' recent lack of form.

Yes, the team was playing fantastic when he was out and Isco played in his spot, but you know who was controlling that mid and making it easier for every one else? Luka. Modric.

James hasn't been playing well, hell, even CR7. With Modric out that leaves Kroos holding down the mid and even though he's done a terrific job you can see him getting tired out there as the season progresses. Luka and Kroos together are really something else.


I can't stand watching Khedira play in a Madrid shirt, why? Because he plays like a complete moron for the club but for Germany he's pure class. Baffles me each damn time.

In other news, speaking of De Gea..

http://as.com/diarioas/2015/01/09/english/1420792572_225031.html
Co-sign. Modric is very important. When is he coming back?
 
From top to bottom German teams are stronger overall. Yeah your gonna get poached by Bayern but they produce a consistent amount of talent year by year, which is why there is so much change up Dortmund and Bayern aside within the top squads. Check the Bundesliga tables from past years to now....much more variation than England.

The BPL is just now seeing lower level squads make that jump. Southhampton, Everton (they are heading downward), Newcastle has found themselves back to being a somewhat decent team after being a punching bag for the first few months. Not to mention Germany has the most teams in the Champions League right now.

I think them having the most team in CL is a misleading stat. Some of those teams just got the luck of the draw and were in very easy groups.
 
I think them having the most team in CL is a misleading stat. Some of those teams just got the luck of the draw and were in very easy groups.

Let's just say it is a misleading stat for the sake of your argument, what about all the other valid points he made?

Truth is, the German D- Team can consistently beat England's A+ Team right now - that should tell you something about how much talent they have down the table.
 
It's not luck of draw BM... far from it... The coefficients are determined by the performances of the teams in the EL & CL as the competitions progress. It's not just whose in the the finals that determines the math. It's wins, loses, draw, goals scored, etc.

The Bundesliga teams perform much better in the EL & CL than their British counter parts. For example, using data from last November, Schalke have performed better than Arsenal over the past 5 seasons in Europe, while Leverkusen were ranked higher than Manchester City (at the time over a 5 year period). All because of their performances thorugh out European competition (from beginning to end).

Although Bayern is financially the strongest team in it's league, the other NTers are correct. There is greater parity among the other teams below them. These German teams also have better academies & produce more talent that actually make it to their first teams. Scouting & coaching is far better in the German league too.

German teams do better at performing with less resources too. As an example, Dortmund won the league in 2011 with a wage bill of $73 mill (or 46 mill pounds) which was the equivalent of Stoke's that same year. :rolleyes

A lot of people make the assumption there is great parity in the Prem but when you look at the league winners for the past 10 years, Bundesliga isn't that much different than the Prem. If you care to, look at the runner's up & third place finishers in Bundesliga & you will see a diversity of teams unlike that in the Prem.

Bundesliga

2013–14 - Bayern Munich
2012–13 - Bayern Munich
2011–12 - Borussia Dortmund
2010–11 - Borussia Dortmund
2009–10 - Bayern Munich
2008–09 - Wolfsburg
2007–08 - Bayern Munich
2006–07 - Stuttgart
2005–06 - Bayern Munich
2004–05 - Bayern Munich

Prem

2013–14- City
2012–13 - United
2011–12 - City
2010–11 - United
2009–10 - Chelsea
2008–09 - United
2007–08 - United
2006–07 - United
2005–06 - Chelsea
2004–05 - Chelsea

If you just don't like Bundesliga compared to the Prem, that's fine but factually, you are incorrect.

Wow, I just looked at the updated coefficients & Germany has passed England as #2 for the year at least...

http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/country/seasoncountry/

Overall, the gap between England at #2 & Germany at #3 isn't wide at all.

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PSK - Germany league is going on the downhill. Don't get me wrong, I agree with you that German league produce better youths. The BPL will never produce the same amount of local talent as the other league until they stop over valuing local talents.

The thing with the BPL, it allows more foreign owners to come in and put a resources around a club and only them to compete with the big boys. not so much in Germany. Look at Dortmund for an example. They had a great run for a few yrs but lots basically all of its star players. now it will take Dortmund yrs to get back and they know even when they get back up same thing will happen.
 
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