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Originally Posted by hombrelobo

Originally Posted by Mcflyy

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I agree with the repackaging for Swagger. Maybe they can make him into a Jock/Mr. Perfect gimmick and use a Diva as his cheerleader.
Just turn A-Ry heel pair him up with swagger and bring back the Varsity Villains. Why not?
Well damn, that's actually...a really good idea. Riley is naturally a heel, but I'm still stunned at how good of a reaction he gets as a face even though
he's been irrelevant since his feud with Miz. If they plan on pushing Riley anytime soon, I rather they do it as a face since they don't have many anyway.
 
Originally Posted by 4wrestling

Originally Posted by Mcflyy

I feel like they should turn Swagger face and give him the U.S title (even though his last run was horrible). The WWE should have another patriotic face since it's been a while (I think).

I think they should model Swagger after Angle.  Put him back as the All American and give him a shooter gimmick.  I think he works best as a heel.  And give him a damn haircut.
I wonder how his job interview at Office Depot went.
 
Originally Posted by shaft

Originally Posted by 4wrestling

Kaitlyn is disgusting, and that is not a flattering bikini for AJ.

[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]Why would anyone take in and really listen to how you feel about women?..... seriously. Guy hasn't sniffed a stitch since he popped out.[/color]
 
Still amazes me that Matt & Jeff were jobbing waaaay in the early 90's at the very bottom to climb their way up.
I think this may have been one of their 1st wins together.
 
Originally Posted by im that one

Originally Posted by shaft

Originally Posted by 4wrestling

Kaitlyn is disgusting, and that is not a flattering bikini for AJ.

[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]Why would anyone take in and really listen to how you feel about women?..... seriously. Guy hasn't sniffed a stitch since he popped out.[/color]


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Originally Posted by Peep Game

Still amazes me that Matt & Jeff were jobbing waaaay in the early 90's at the very bottom to climb their way up.
I think this may have been one of their 1st wins together.

Man when I get a new computer I am going to upload all of the wrestling I have. I have so many Shotgun Sat. Night shows where those dudes did NOTHING but lose. Jeff missing 450*'s and everything. Those were the days before they had any rank at all. That was a nice little match you posted there too Peeps.
 
is it too much to ask for to see one damn ace crusher already??

yeah raw was definitely a "big show" this week. best part was aj dressed as kane. atleast i got a laugh out of that
 
Don't know if this has been brought up, but has anyone bought the new ECW Unreleased matches dvd?..If so how is it overall?
 
Amazing Red got a WWE tryout Sunday at the Izod Center before No Way Out. One WWE source believes he’ll be hired for the upcoming all-Cruiserweight project that is in development for either the Network or elsewhere if it takes the Network too long to get off the ground.

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Originally Posted by im that one

Originally Posted by Peep Game

Originally Posted by 4wrestling

I think they should model Swagger after Angle. �Put him back as the All American and give him a shooter gimmick. �I think he works best as a heel. �And give him a damn haircut.
Hopefully that's the plan down the road, cause unless he gets completely repackaged, I can't see any reason to legitimately cheer him.
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]I legit wanted this from Jump... but they have screwed him (his character) over to the point where i think he is tyson kidd at this point. Great worker.. job squad 4 life. He has a great look, unique mic skills with his lisp and he can actually talk... but He will never be angle (i know there was no comparison) but there sure was when he was thee all American American. [/color]

[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]At this point i do think they need to completely repackage him.[/color]
Let's not get carried away...
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He has little charisma and can't put himself over on the mic. Ideally you'd want him to do what Cody Rhodes did...work on covering up the lisp as much as possible and gradually get better at inciting crowds with his words/antics. Cody hasn't improved as much as Dolph on the mic (I think a lot of people forgot how mediocre Dolph was
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) but he's made great strides and can hold his own with most of the WWE roster. Same can't be said for Swagger.

I do agree they screwed with his character though. I can pinpoint it to this moment...



You'd think getting the biggest push of your life by winning MITB and the World Title in the same week would pave the way for greatness, right? Nope. WWE made two big mistakes

1). They rushed Swagger winning the strap and had him beat the wrong guy. Instead of taking time to build him up as a legitimate strong heel, they immediately gave Jack the strap 2 days after winning MITB @ Wrestlemania and, to make matters worse, had him pin the #1 heel in the company. It was mind boggling because if they had decided that Swagger would be champ, the logical move was putting Edge over Jericho @ WM. This would set up Edge returning to his show as the triumphant face who had beaten the odds and returned from a major injury to win the Royal Rumble + defeated Jericho to become World Champ. They could have told viewers on RAW to tune into Smackdown to hear Edge's victory speech...hype up his speech all throughout the Smackdown show...Edge comes out at the end and is in the middle of his speech when a salty Y2J attacks him setting up the cash in opportunity for Swagger. Swagger would get the ultimate heel rub and this protects Edge from looking weak + sets up a new feud with Swagger.

All that being said...the fake scenario I made up was to salvage a situation that should've never occurred in the first place. Another reason why Swagger wasn't ready for the Title yet: he was developing a diva attitude backstage and let the success get to his head. He didn't "carry" himself as a champion and once you piss off the wrong people in WWE, you're in the doghouse...this is why they humbled him and demoted his ##$ straight to lower-mid card and he's been there ever since.

2). They tweaked his character for the worst. Swagger as the smiling arrogant jock character > serious, stone-faced, slow-talking character. As you can see in the clip, it happened immediately after the W. They had him come out in suits and put on his best Chris Jericho impression. He's not the menacing type and the change clearly didn't fit him.
 
Fueling rumors that WWE may part ways with Randy Orton as a result of his second violation of the Talent Wellness Program, former WWE talent Kenn Doane (a/k/a Kenny Dykstra) stated recently on Twitter that he believes John Cena is among those within the sports entertainment organization lobbying for the SmackDown wrestler’s termination. Doane’s belief is based on Cena admitting to him in 2006 that he wanted Orton fired following his first Wellness Program infraction.

One WWE source said while the wrestling stars’ relationship may currently be more amicable, Cena ‘hated’ Orton then due to the third-generation wrestler constantly “calling out Cena for what he was.
 
Originally Posted by iLLoQuent aka DSK

I do agree they screwed with his character though. I can pinpoint it to this moment...



2). They tweaked his character for the worst. Swagger as the smiling arrogant jock character > serious, stone-faced, slow-talking character. As you can see in the clip, it happened immediately after the W. They had him come out in suits and put on his best Chris Jericho impression. He's not the menacing type and the change clearly didn't fit him.

This
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I couldn't believe how in one night, they wiped away everything that was decent about his character. Like...how could you do it that fast??
It's like they said "When you win the title, be Jericho, but not nearly as good."
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Originally Posted by 4wrestling

Originally Posted by hymen man

Rayne > Kaitlyn.
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Madison barely looks better that current Angelina Love
 
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