why Barkley always say Nuggets don't play defense?

Najera plays some decent D, just noting that.
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Bobby Jackson can still light it up though.
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Originally Posted by JapanAir21

Najera plays some decent D, just noting that.
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Bobby Jackson can still light it up though.
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What you mean 20 year old Bobby Jackson on the Rockets?
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There was a reason the Nuggets were trying to get Artest before the trade deadline.
Although JR and Artest on the same team would require police on the sidelines at all times
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Originally Posted by SoHi 23

Nobody but Camby plays any D on that team
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Camby is the MVP of the nuggets.
Also, Charles Barkley know more about basketball thank anyone on this board.
John Hollinger is some 45 year old d-bag who has never played in the NBA.
Who do you believe

those are purely stats, it's not like the power ranking, sir.
 
I'll believe an NBA HoF anyday unless that HoF is old and out of his mind. Barkley may be fat, but that isn't cutting off the blood to his brain.

Isn't Hollinger the same guy who said both Terry and Harris are better than Kidd?
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NYC BUC

If you've watched any of their games, then you know the Nuggets don't play any REAL defense.
 
numbers lie? i dont think so. im not nyc buc, im from socal. san bernardino represent the real 909 not team 909 when they in the 951.
 
dey dont play defense. everyone knows that. the only ones really playing defense is camby and iverson at times. k-mart does not play big man defense he triesto play like a guard. We all know about Melo as well he has never played defense since he's been in the league. They give up 135 points to a horribleoffense really and played almost no D in dat Milwaukee comeback.
 
I might take some heat for this but, defensive wise.... K-Mart>>>Camby. Camby is only a good off the ball defender. K-Mart actually plays solid man toman D and actually has the ability to man up against some guards.
 
Originally Posted by BoutMyMoney333

I might take some heat for this but, defensive wise.... K-Mart>>>Camby. Camby is only a good off the ball defender. K-Mart actually plays solid man to man D and actually has the ability to man up against some guards.

agreed.
 
You guys are looking into statistics wayyy too much.

You don't look at stats when it comes to defense, it doesn't tell the entire story.

This is why I hate the Fantasy Sports era, people think they know what they are talking about b/c all they do is bring up numbers, when in fact they knowNOTHING about what their talking about.
 
they play no perimeter D, Gordon just dropped 37 then Redd dropped like 41 on em, back to back losses gettin ran by lottery bound teams
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Originally Posted by JapanAir21

I'll believe an NBA HoF anyday unless that HoF is old and out of his mind. Barkley may be fat, but that isn't cutting off the blood to his brain.

Isn't Hollinger the same guy who said both Terry and Harris are better than Kidd?
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Hollinger created some sort of rating that had Nick damn Fazekas the 4th best player in this yr;s draft, seriously. He even created some rating that hadCorey Brewer the worse athlete of the draft and most likely to bust, again seriously. All he does is create fuzzy math formulas backwards in order to purposelyarrive to a conclusion contradictory to what common sense generally tells you. You can create a formula or study to prove anything.
 
The Nuggets play defense all right. They play a gamblers defense. This is a defense that relies on playmakers to execute flawlessly. If they do not, theinterior defense completely breaks down.

The Nuggets switch between man to man and a 2-3 zone. They don't shadow their man close enough opting instead to trail their opponent and hedge risk bytrying to end up in passing lanes by mistake. Yes, by mistake. The Nuggets have to force 15+ turnovers for this strategy to work. They try for steals andblocks, but they draw almost no charges.

The Marcus Camby DPOY award last year was a joke. At least 3 other players had better defensive years, but Camby had not yet been awarded the trophy despitebeing a well known first team all NBA defensive player.

If you think the Nuggets are a good defensive team you are plain crazy. I recommend a prescription of watching a Nuggets game rather than examining stats.
 
I don't care if they're 5th in team defensive efficiency, that hardly means anything. They are horrible on defense.
 
Well, if we weren't going off stats Im pretty sure I watch more Nuggets games than the post starter so Im more convinced by the fact that they dont playany D. Its hilarious when George Karl says we're trying to improve our D, and they come out and do the same thing everyday. That Chicago game was patheticthough
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Everyone knows that the Nuggets have a horrible defense.
 
Wow...you DEFINITELY need to get league pass. The Nuggets play NO kinda Defense at all which is why i been telling people around my way that between the lastthree teams right now fighting for a playoff spot, Golden State, Houston and Denver, i believe Denver will not make it.

And YES, i know Golden State doesn't play good D either but their offense is soooooo much more high power that they can get away with it more so thanDenver.

Stop basing things on stats, the facts are;

Are they Detroit, Boston, or San Antonio? No.
Do they have good individual defenders? Yes.
Are they an overall good defensive team? Not as good as most.
Yep...EXACTLY!
 
The Marcus Camby DPOY award last year was a joke. At least 3 other players had better defensive years, but Camby had not yet been awarded the trophy despite being a well known first team all NBA defensive player.
Ummmmm.who?
Marcus Camby, Denver702312431
Bruce Bowen, San Antonio222618206
Tim Duncan, San Antonio152217158
Shawn Marion, Phoenix7122293
Shane Battier, Houston7111886
Ben Wallace, Chicago110742
Gerald Wallace, Charlotte33327
Ron Artest, Sacramento13620
Tyson Chandler, NOK-5-15
Jermaine O'Neal, Indiana
Don't just throw out blank statements like that. Elaborate PLEASE!
 
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