Who thinks being successful is about the grades? Vol. High School

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for some people, success is all about good grades. for others, it's about money.

just focus on what you consider success is and you'll be much happier in life.

 

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for some people, success is all about good grades. for others, it's about money.

just focus on what you consider success is and you'll be much happier in life.

 

[dipsetgeneral]

If you graduate from any four-year college, any employer will take you seriously.

You won't get a job over another person because you went to a more accredited university.

Skills and experience are the main factors.

 

[dipsetgeneral]

If you graduate from any four-year college, any employer will take you seriously.

You won't get a job over another person because you went to a more accredited university.

Skills and experience are the main factors.

 

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Originally Posted by DB WEST


UPPTEMPO8387-Extracurriculars are only valuable to you professionally if they are related to your major or career goals.  The only benefits that greek organizations provide are social.  I'm a finance major and apart of two business clubs at my university and they are great ways to meet people in your field.  Even if you have a pretty average gpa like I do you can meet new connections and leverage your leadership positions to land job/internship offers. 

i don't feel that this is true... it's important to do what you are passionate about. plenty of people interested in med or law school are entrepreneurs. there are also people working passion projects on the side but are career-oriented in a completely different field.

what matters is what you've learned and how it's helped you grow as a person. it is also crucial for you to be able to tie what you've been doing into what you're currently trying to do.

 

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Originally Posted by DB WEST


UPPTEMPO8387-Extracurriculars are only valuable to you professionally if they are related to your major or career goals.  The only benefits that greek organizations provide are social.  I'm a finance major and apart of two business clubs at my university and they are great ways to meet people in your field.  Even if you have a pretty average gpa like I do you can meet new connections and leverage your leadership positions to land job/internship offers. 

i don't feel that this is true... it's important to do what you are passionate about. plenty of people interested in med or law school are entrepreneurs. there are also people working passion projects on the side but are career-oriented in a completely different field.

what matters is what you've learned and how it's helped you grow as a person. it is also crucial for you to be able to tie what you've been doing into what you're currently trying to do.

 

[91mph style]

Originally Posted by DipsetGeneral

If you graduate from any four-year college, any employer will take you seriously.

You won't get a job over another person because you went to a more accredited university.   

 

[91mph style]

Originally Posted by DipsetGeneral

If you graduate from any four-year college, any employer will take you seriously.

You won't get a job over another person because you went to a more accredited university.   

 

[skip2mylou23]

Originally Posted by UPPTEMPO8387

You'd be extremely surprised how far grades will get you..I knew a lot of kids growing up that were constantly pulling 4.0's in High School and College and had ZERO social skills whatsoever..So everyone would say "Well ______ is smart but they're not sociable and have no personality..That won't get them far." Then a few months after they graduate we find out they landed a huge tech job or started interning at a big Law firm...If a company sees that you're an extremely intelligent person when they interview you and can see it in your college grades, they will hire you and give you time to develop social skills..Actually, in some ways depending on the field of work, it's BETTER for them if you're not very social because it doesn't keep you distracted.


Also, "extra-curriculars" isn't as important as a lot of people will say...Frats, Sororities, etc..might help slightly but for the most part it doesn't...If someone had a 4.0 and has a better interview than someone who has a 3.6 and was in student government and a frat, the first person gets the job...That whole extra-curricular story is something that frats n sororities use to convince people it's a good idea to join them

I would argue that extracurricular involvement in Greek organizations or student government helps out a lot. You learn things that you wouldn't learn in the classroom like leadership and social skills, which would lead to a more well-rounded person, and ultimately, a better interview.

Someone with a 4.0 means that they hit the books a lot, which doesn't say much about their interpersonal skills. Not saying they don't have them; it just seems a lot less likely since they're always studying.

 

[skip2mylou23]

Originally Posted by UPPTEMPO8387

You'd be extremely surprised how far grades will get you..I knew a lot of kids growing up that were constantly pulling 4.0's in High School and College and had ZERO social skills whatsoever..So everyone would say "Well ______ is smart but they're not sociable and have no personality..That won't get them far." Then a few months after they graduate we find out they landed a huge tech job or started interning at a big Law firm...If a company sees that you're an extremely intelligent person when they interview you and can see it in your college grades, they will hire you and give you time to develop social skills..Actually, in some ways depending on the field of work, it's BETTER for them if you're not very social because it doesn't keep you distracted.


Also, "extra-curriculars" isn't as important as a lot of people will say...Frats, Sororities, etc..might help slightly but for the most part it doesn't...If someone had a 4.0 and has a better interview than someone who has a 3.6 and was in student government and a frat, the first person gets the job...That whole extra-curricular story is something that frats n sororities use to convince people it's a good idea to join them

I would argue that extracurricular involvement in Greek organizations or student government helps out a lot. You learn things that you wouldn't learn in the classroom like leadership and social skills, which would lead to a more well-rounded person, and ultimately, a better interview.

Someone with a 4.0 means that they hit the books a lot, which doesn't say much about their interpersonal skills. Not saying they don't have them; it just seems a lot less likely since they're always studying.

 

[gijace]

wow. this thread reminds me of Steve Carrell's "The Office"..

 

[gijace]

wow. this thread reminds me of Steve Carrell's "The Office"..

 

[nicefro]

Originally Posted by 91mph Style

Originally Posted by DipsetGeneral

If you graduate from any four-year college, any employer will take you seriously.

You won't get a job over another person because you went to a more accredited university.   

This guy can't be serious. Look at campus recruiting lists for big consulting or accountancy firms. 

 

[nicefro]

Originally Posted by 91mph Style

Originally Posted by DipsetGeneral

If you graduate from any four-year college, any employer will take you seriously.

You won't get a job over another person because you went to a more accredited university.   

This guy can't be serious. Look at campus recruiting lists for big consulting or accountancy firms. 

 

[e3lal]

Originally Posted by Mo Greene

how does one get a 5.0 gpa? they got honors PE now?

We could get a max of 5.5 at my HS

Whenever I talked about my grades with people, I'd always have to tell them the scale we use otherwise I'd look like a moron

 

[e3lal]

Originally Posted by Mo Greene

how does one get a 5.0 gpa? they got honors PE now?

We could get a max of 5.5 at my HS

Whenever I talked about my grades with people, I'd always have to tell them the scale we use otherwise I'd look like a moron

 

[impalaballa187]

It's about how you market yourself my man. I'm in an Ivy League school right now, and had a solid B average in HS. Hell, I've got a B average right now, but I've still secured two back to back jobs and grad school at another Ivy. You have to network, and figure out how to sell yourself as a package/product. I've gotten more out of my experiences on sports teams, clubs, and other organizations than I've ever gotten in the classroom.

So in short, no, grades are not the only thing that matter. You need to keep them moderately respectable, but most important thing is selling yourself, and how exactly you do that.
*EDIT*

Also, as far as frats/sorors/other things, I can only speak from my experiences... but they're massively beneficial. I've been interviewed by people in my organization (not greek) and talked about football the entire time. Been given job offers and everything. Similarly, at T-25 schools, the people in those frats have parents and "friends of the family" who are captain of industry. Aside from myself, I know a girl who interviewed with a soror and got an instant job offer with a Fortune 10 company. Another who didn't even interview and got an offer from Morgan Stanley.

You should, however, strive for a gpa > 3.5. I got a recommendation for Deloitte consulting and McKinsey, but my GPA didn't hit that 3.5 threshold and I got dinged. That McKinsey one really hurt BTW

. BUT... the network is what got me into that position in the first place. Don't overlook that.

 

[impalaballa187]

It's about how you market yourself my man. I'm in an Ivy League school right now, and had a solid B average in HS. Hell, I've got a B average right now, but I've still secured two back to back jobs and grad school at another Ivy. You have to network, and figure out how to sell yourself as a package/product. I've gotten more out of my experiences on sports teams, clubs, and other organizations than I've ever gotten in the classroom.

So in short, no, grades are not the only thing that matter. You need to keep them moderately respectable, but most important thing is selling yourself, and how exactly you do that.
*EDIT*

Also, as far as frats/sorors/other things, I can only speak from my experiences... but they're massively beneficial. I've been interviewed by people in my organization (not greek) and talked about football the entire time. Been given job offers and everything. Similarly, at T-25 schools, the people in those frats have parents and "friends of the family" who are captain of industry. Aside from myself, I know a girl who interviewed with a soror and got an instant job offer with a Fortune 10 company. Another who didn't even interview and got an offer from Morgan Stanley.

You should, however, strive for a gpa > 3.5. I got a recommendation for Deloitte consulting and McKinsey, but my GPA didn't hit that 3.5 threshold and I got dinged. That McKinsey one really hurt BTW

. BUT... the network is what got me into that position in the first place. Don't overlook that.

 

[zyr12]

Grades def. help in the long run, College grading system is a totally diff story tho...
3.7 is good, just do well on the SAT and SAT2s.

Coming from a college freshman.

 

[zyr12]

Grades def. help in the long run, College grading system is a totally diff story tho...
3.7 is good, just do well on the SAT and SAT2s.

Coming from a college freshman.

 

[pusha c]

Originally Posted by 91mph Style

Originally Posted by DipsetGeneral

If you graduate from any four-year college, any employer will take you seriously.

You won't get a job over another person because you went to a more accredited university.   

 

[pusha c]

Originally Posted by 91mph Style

Originally Posted by DipsetGeneral

If you graduate from any four-year college, any employer will take you seriously.

You won't get a job over another person because you went to a more accredited university.   

 

[k2theablam]

Originally Posted by scshift

Then you have the people who press that on you. My parents ride me about how I'm not up to the other students... yeah right. Apparently since I don't put all my heart into my school life, I won't be a leader in life. Like those kids are going to be leaders? They're sheep who follow whatever they're told. No one respects them because they feel better than everyone else just cause of grades. They lack any kind of social skills to lead a group and the ambition to be something in life.

This is just being salty and insecure. Just handle your business and let the "ivy" league kids do their thing.

 

[k2theablam]

Originally Posted by scshift

Then you have the people who press that on you. My parents ride me about how I'm not up to the other students... yeah right. Apparently since I don't put all my heart into my school life, I won't be a leader in life. Like those kids are going to be leaders? They're sheep who follow whatever they're told. No one respects them because they feel better than everyone else just cause of grades. They lack any kind of social skills to lead a group and the ambition to be something in life.

This is just being salty and insecure. Just handle your business and let the "ivy" league kids do their thing.