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Originally Posted by nYcHipHopHippo
wuts MJ doing with prince in that pic
But I think it was when Money himself retired
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Originally Posted by nYcHipHopHippo
wuts MJ doing with prince in that pic
Originally Posted by airjaw
Actually I think the NBA is on an upswing.. Older people are always going to look back on the old days with nostalgia - its very hard, maybe even impossible, for the present to be better than the past. People just look back on the past differently.. its the "good ol' days" mentality.
I'm sure if you asked younger generation who didn't grow up watching MJ, they'd tell you they're happy with the NBA
also, increase the court size. Players are always stepping on the sideline and baseline because over the years players have gotten bigger and stronger and the size of the court hasnt changed. The sideline is only like 2.5 feet from the 3-pt line. smh
The 1990s werent that awesome ,guys y'all were just younger and you were memizered by it more. Kids still love basketball
Yes, the 90s were that awesome. 1992 > last 10 years combined. There is a noticeable difference between then and now. And kids today wouldn't knowquality if it took away their text messaging privileges. They grew up with crap so they don't know any better.
Originally Posted by Burns1923
also, increase the court size. Players are always stepping on the sideline and baseline because over the years players have gotten bigger and stronger and the size of the court hasnt changed. The sideline is only like 2.5 feet from the 3-pt line. smh
The 1990s werent that awesome ,guys y'all were just younger and you were memizered by it more. Kids still love basketball
Yes, the 90s were that awesome. 1992 > last 10 years combined. There is a noticeable difference between then and now. And kids today wouldn't know quality if it took away their text messaging privileges. They grew up with crap so they don't know any better.
I hate when people say the game was better way back in any sport. When in my opinion in most all sports the athletes get better. While the skill level make notimprove the pure athleticism of the newer athletes makes up for the lost skill.
i agree burns. and i keep forgetting to ask who that is in your avy...Originally Posted by Burns1923
The NBA today isn't even real; it's marketed entertainment.
The players of the 80s and 90s were of more traditional generations when a focus on working hard earned you success.
The current generation is over-hyped and over-paid, and what passes for quality basketball now would be laughed at 15-25 years ago.
The league is exploited for monetary gain.
Even stuff like arenas has taken some of the uniqueness away. Teams destroyed or left historic arenas to play in generic, lifeless venues with 8,000 luxury boxes... all for money.
I could write up a lengthy list of why today's NBA is awful.
Originally Posted by finnns2003
i agree burns. and i keep forgetting to ask who that is in your avy...Originally Posted by Burns1923
The NBA today isn't even real; it's marketed entertainment.
The players of the 80s and 90s were of more traditional generations when a focus on working hard earned you success.
The current generation is over-hyped and over-paid, and what passes for quality basketball now would be laughed at 15-25 years ago.
The league is exploited for monetary gain.
Even stuff like arenas has taken some of the uniqueness away. Teams destroyed or left historic arenas to play in generic, lifeless venues with 8,000 luxury boxes... all for money.
I could write up a lengthy list of why today's NBA is awful.
but yeah, i mean give me players of the 80's and early 90's anyday over today's players. magic, bird, MJ, isiah, drexler, dumars, guys who played the game the right way. fundamentals.
I hate when people say the game was better way back in any sport. When in my opinion in most all sports the athletes get better. While the skill level make not improve the pure athleticism of the newer athletes makes up for the lost skill.
Well, it's a matter of opinion, I guess, but you can pick almost anything now and compare its quality to its counterpart from 15-25 years ago and the newerversion will be the lesser of the two.
I think the focus on athleticism, and not skill, is precisely one of the things that has made today's NBA worse. The game is choppy and unorganized. Andit doesn't help that the refs are contractually obligated to call a foul every 17 seconds.
Originally Posted by Burns1923
The players of the 80s and 90s were of more traditional generations when a focus on working hard earned you success.
The current generation is over-hyped and over-paid, and what passes for quality basketball now would be laughed at 15-25 years ago.
Yup. Although the Spurs are actually good, I don't think a Finals that involves the Spurs doesn't sell well to the national audiencehere.Originally Posted by nycknicks105
A lot of things could be the reason...
- MJ himself retiring from the NBA
- The lock out that occurred in 99
- The New York Knicks stepping into a huge slump for an entire decade.
- The Chicago Bulls also falling into a huge slump.
- It hurt the NBA to have 2 of it's 3 top market city teams to play poorly for so long.
- The emergence of young players stepping into the league. (All the Cherokee Parks, Kwame Brown, Nudubi Ebi, etc)
- Kobe Bryant and his rape case.
- The demise of the the Shaq/Kobe/Phil L.A. Lakers reign.
- Lack of rivalries
- Lack of competitiveness and physicality.
- Lack of individuality
- Not even marketable players such as the likes of an MJ.
- Long drawn out playoff series
- A lot of boring teams winning the championship over and over again (The San Antonio Spurs)
- The zone defense
- Players flopping
- Teams sporting plain looking colors and jerseys.
- ESPN taking over the NBA.
There are many many more reasons, but these are the ones that stand out the most.
I think what REALLY hurt the NBA was all those Pistons/Spurs series. Its not a very exciting brand of basketball to watch. Is it effective? Of course, it is, but it's not the most exciting to watch.