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Originally Posted by Mister Friendly
He doesnt need 7 championships, Jordan kinda had incredible timing to be able to get 6 championships without a Finals loss.
If LeBron can win 4 straight championships and capture 3 more MVPs...he'll better than Jordan in my book.
Originally Posted by Raise the Cup
That's not happening.Originally Posted by Mister Friendly
If LeBron can win 4 straight championships
Xtapolapacetl:
Because people have a mental illness where someone from their generation has to be considered the GOAT, even though all objective facts (championships, awards, stats, etc.) speak against their claim.. They will just overlook them.
Dude, chill.Sometimes your posts provide a unique perspective that is well-said, and other times (like this time), your perspective is so skewed and full of angst, I can't help but wonder if you're serious.
Sure, it could be that millions of people have a mental illness that prevents them from acknowledging that someone outside of their generation is the greatest ever... ... ... ... OOOOORRRR... ... ... ... it could simply be that people are more inclined to lean towards that which they are familiar with and have a connection to, which isn't a mental illness at all; rather, human nature.
And there's always the possibility that even the objective have an opinion that would appear to be biased.
Or you can disregard both of those huge possibilities and just posite that everyone who grew up in the 90s and thinks Jordan is the GOAT has a mental illness.
where do you see hakeem?Originally Posted by Mister Friendly
Originally Posted by Raise the Cup
That's not happening.Originally Posted by Mister Friendly
If LeBron can win 4 straight championships
It's possible....If he got somebody like Bosh to join him in Cleveland.He could do it.
Also why is Hakeem in this picture? He has 2 championships
Dude, chill.Originally Posted by 23ska909red02
Xtapolapacetl:
Because people have a mental illness where someone from their generation has to be considered the GOAT, even though all objective facts (championships, awards, stats, etc.) speak against their claim.. They will just overlook them.
Originally Posted by MrONegative
MJ got famous because he looked wholesome and scored a ton. He got respect because he was gritty and clutch. He got infamous, because all of his vices were manly (stepping out a little/gambling). His size was a lot of his appeal too. Even though he was 6'6", he looked like a regular guy, compared to other players. He didn't have freakish muscles. He didn't look too short or too tall. So when he did these incredible things, anyone could imagine themselves as him.
LeBron can't do that. He's a monster. Kevin Durant can't do that. He's gangly. Dwayne Wade could've done it, but they spent too damn much on that '06 title. People see how human he is.
MJ might as well be the NBA icon, because his figure is the standard, but what he always achieved wasn't. He has another thing too, where the second he started winning titles, he never really stopped. By the time he came back to the Wizards, it was impossible to take that away from him.
If Shaq wasn't as big and didn't have such an ego or powerful persona, then Kobe would be in the discussion. All Kobe needed was a good big man and a solid 2nd scorer. Instead he got both in one and a lot more. Then Mitch Kupchak raped the team getting rid of him. Kobe could've skated in like DMX. Pac died and people saw X as the second coming. Didn't need to have that outward personality or be personable. Just needed to show up and know that he was the man. But he stopped winning too early. Good thing, because I %!%@!$% hate Kobe.
Originally Posted by MrONegative
MJ got famous because he looked wholesome and scored a ton. He got respect because he was gritty and clutch. He got infamous, because all of his vices were manly (stepping out a little/gambling). His size was a lot of his appeal too. Even though he was 6'6", he looked like a regular guy, compared to other players. He didn't have freakish muscles. He didn't look too short or too tall. So when he did these incredible things, anyone could imagine themselves as him.
LeBron can't do that. He's a monster. Kevin Durant can't do that. He's gangly. Dwayne Wade could've done it, but they spent too damn much on that '06 title. People see how human he is.
MJ might as well be the NBA icon, because his figure is the standard, but what he always achieved wasn't. He has another thing too, where the second he started winning titles, he never really stopped. By the time he came back to the Wizards, it was impossible to take that away from him.
If Shaq wasn't as big and didn't have such an ego or powerful persona, then Kobe would be in the discussion. All Kobe needed was a good big man and a solid 2nd scorer. Instead he got both in one and a lot more. Then Mitch Kupchak raped the team getting rid of him. Kobe could've skated in like DMX. Pac died and people saw X as the second coming. Didn't need to have that outward personality or be personable. Just needed to show up and know that he was the man. But he stopped winning too early. Good thing, because I %!%@!$% hate Kobe.
CBS1984Boston Celtics 4, Los Angeles Lakers 312.3
CBS1985Los Angeles Lakers 4, Boston Celtics 213.7
CBS1986Boston Celtics 4, Houston Rockets 214.1
CBS1987Los Angeles Lakers 4, Boston Celtics 215.9
CBS1988Los Angeles Lakers 4, Detroit Pistons 315.4
CBS1989Detroit Pistons 4, Los Angeles Lakers 015.1
CBS1990Detroit Pistons 4, Portland Trail Blazers 112.3
NBC1991Chicago Bulls 4, Los Angeles Lakers 115.8
NBC1992Chicago Bulls 4, Portland Trail Blazers 214.2
NBC1993Chicago Bulls 4, Phoenix Suns 217.9
NBC1994Houston Rockets 4, New York Knicks 312.4
NBC1995Houston Rockets 4, Orlando Magic 013.9
NBC1996Chicago Bulls 4, Seattle Supersonics 216.7
NBC1997Chicago Bulls 4, Utah Jazz 216.8
NBC1998Chicago Bulls 4, Utah Jazz 218.7
NBC1999San Antonio Spurs 4, New York Knicks 111.3
The NBA's television contract with NBC began in 1990, which just happened to be the number 1 network at the time, always featured Chicago Bulls games. If he wasn't on, there were the multiple commercials, NBA Inside Stuff features, his Pro Stars cartoon, Video Games & even a number one movie. For once, basketball became the number 2 sport in the nation and Mike was the face of it all. With all this positive media combined with the level of success & achievement, how could anyone be greater than MJ?
Furtunately for SG #23, the internet was in its infancy & stories such as him punching Steve Kerr in practice, his wild gambling or his extramarital affairs weren't relayed to multiple media outlets in seconds preserving the god-like status that many still revere today.
If Jordan was a superstar today, this pic would be all over TMZ & we would be dealing with another Tiger Woods type situation. Tiger was the only athlete comparable to Mike in terms of wholesomeness & universal appeal due to his success combined with his squeaky clean image, unfortunately for Mr. Woods, he'll never attain that level again. In the media infused society that we live in today, there are just too many variables that won't allow anyone to surpass MJ's legacy...
Originally Posted by westcoastsfinest
more championships.
i kid i kid
IMO to be greater than jordan...its more than winning rings, medals and MVPs...you gotta become an icon and what i mean by that is globalizing the sport, revolutionizing the shoe game and endoresments to the max
i mean when everyone sees that jumpman logo almost everyone knows its mike...the fact is that he brought attention to the casual fans and non fans that dont even watch sports......................thats big shoes to fill which is why its unfair for players after mike to even be compared or mentioned in the same breath.
thats a lot of pressure for them
just my 2 cents
Originally Posted by Mister Friendly
He doesnt need 7 championships, Jordan kinda had incredible timing to be able to get 6 championships without a Finals loss.
If LeBron can win 4 straight championships and capture 3 more MVPs...he'll better than Jordan in my book.
^^ your punishment is to read this whole magazine below for your silly remark.Originally Posted by Mister Friendly
^^^ Gosh get off Michael Jordan's #^$
Eventually Michael will be passed it happens in every sport over time...Your kids and grandkids will have a new GOAT and be tired of your Jordan ^%* riding.
Originally Posted by crobers 78
Originally Posted by Mister Friendly
He doesnt need 7 championships, Jordan kinda had incredible timing to be able to get 6 championships without a Finals loss.
If LeBron can win 4 straight championships and capture 3 more MVPs...he'll better than Jordan in my book.
^ LOL! I'm sorry but please cut it out!