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[rck3sactown]

I just want to see some one bleed

 

[lamekilla]

Pretty sure the trailers haven't spoiled anything for us. I don't know if QS dies because from what I heard...him vision and scarlet are integral parts in destroying Ultron

What is intriguing actually is how aggressive Thor has been looking in trailers...something to think about....

 

[rfx45]

^ ^ ^

That better not be the damn spoiler they're talking about up there, I am avoiding clicking on it.

 

[rck3sactown]

dudes don't care about spoilers

 

[lamekilla]

Damn right! I'll know the whole plot of the movie in about 2 more weeks those who want to be spoiled let me know

 

[rck3sactown]

you're gonna post it in here regardless if the thread wants to be spoiled or not 

 

[jaypesoz]

Damn right! I'll know the whole plot of the movie in about 2 more weeks those who want to be spoiled let me know

Word, lame. I actually don't mind knowing major plot points/spoilers and I prefer the anticipation of actually seeing it rather than being surprised in a theater.

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[IATT]

I don't care about knowing what is going to happen.. I care more about the execution and the quality

 

[Fozz]

This movie needs to come out now.

 

[youngdoc]

This movie needs to come out now.

Seriously

They keep showing more footage

Didn't need to see those Cap and Thor scenes

 

[everysingletime]

I think I will just take a break from this thread until the movie comes out

See you guys in the other comic book threads

 

[Master Zik]

This isn't true.

That was future Franklin.

Seriously, who told you this? or where did you read this theory?
Last I remember one of the celestials was sent to destroy the HRU after another was sent to watch over Franklin, when they discovered what Franklin could do. After the real heroes came back to the main universe. The HRU was left to die. Then Doom showed up and saved them all by bringing the HR Earth out of that pocket universe to the main marvel universe.

Then at some later point it got ignored save for a few adventures in Exiles and Thunderbolts comics and going off handbooks Franklin recalled the Earth back in to his imagination and went on to create a new HR pocket universe.


Not really.
Seriously what comics are you reading? All of this is news to me

Pretty sure Franklin had to choose between saving the 616 universe or HR universe, don't know why you're trying to question that Zik.

I have Heroes Reborn, the Onslaught event, and the comic where Doom saves the HR Earth. That's not what happened at all. If you have it I'd suggest you reread it or at least read the wiki entry which are pretty accurate for the most part.. At no point was Franklin forced to choose which universe to save. The 616 predates the HR universe. Franklin created the HR universe to save the heroes from Onslaught when they were gonna sacrifice themselves to stop him.

I'm not even trying to say you're straight up wrong. I'm saying if what you're saying is true, tell me what comic it is so I can read it.

Also what age do you see franklin in the most?....

I'm not talking about what age we see Franklin portrayed as. I'm talking about the reason you're giving as to why we see him that age and when you say this "He is the reason why all these characters have been around the same age for 40+ years. He doesn't let the characters age because he wants them to stay the way he remembers them."

I'm talking about the reason you just gave. It's completely made up. Again if you can show me a comic that actually says what you said I'd be grateful since I never came across it. So just tell me what comic that happened in.

And we're talking the most important incarnations of Franklin like from the Power pack.

What important incarnation of Franklin is from Power Pack? You talking about those short lived Power Pack minis? That time he joined the team for a while?

I mean if nothing else Fantastic Four issue #245 shows you right there in that comic baby Franklin Richards warping himself into a grown man and taking out the FF one by one. Fam his mutant power is to wrap reality to his will.

Again, I'm not disputing Franklin's reality warping abilities. I don't know how much clearer I can make that to you. It's pretty established he's one of the most powerful.

Just show me what Marvel comic says what you said so I can be better informed. Show me what comic says this

He is the reason why all these characters have been around the same age for 40+ years. He doesn't let the characters age because he wants them to stay the way he remembers them.

Cuz last I checked, Marvel heroes not aging is cuz of Marvel's sliding timescale and that's an editorial decision not an in comic explanation. Not Franklin. What you posted seems to just be a fan theory that'll never be official in the actual comics.

And my whole comment about valaria comes from the fact that she's the lesser known child of Reed and Sue. Give me a break zik

Maybe it's cuz I've kept up with the F4 comics for more than the past decade but that is no longer the case. So maybe you're just not up to date with how things are now.

 

[kvsm23vs24]

I don't mind spoilers either...

 

[rfx45]

Whether you don't mind spoilers or not, you still got to be courteous to the others who do not want to know and just put them in spoiler tags/boxes and discuss it with others as such.

 

[sunshineblotters]

Damn. Those scenes were better than the ones in the trailers. Only thing I dont like here is the fake eastern european accent. Even tho its a fictional country. They shouldve tried to mimic a real one.

Pretty sure the trailers haven't spoiled anything for us. I don't know if QS dies because from what I heard...him vision and scarlet are integral parts in destroying Ultron

What is intriguing actually is how aggressive Thor has been looking in trailers...something to think about....

I dont think so either. I guess they never said how many movies scarlet and quick are in for but I doubt they will kill off everyone's favorite character from the x-men

dudes don't care about spoilers

I don't care about knowing what is going to happen.. I care more about the execution and the quality

Same. You can leak the whole script right now. I'll read it and still love the movie

 

[layziegunts]

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The shorter commercial that was on tv has other scenes like the hulkbust flying before coming togethers

I have the whole video on my phone

 

[lamekilla]

I have Heroes Reborn, the Onslaught event, and the comic where Doom saves the HR Earth. That's not what happened at all. If you have it I'd suggest you reread it or at least read the wiki entry which are pretty accurate for the most part.. At no point was Franklin forced to choose which universe to save. The 616 predates the HR universe. Franklin created the HR universe to save the heroes from Onslaught when they were gonna sacrifice themselves to stop him.

I'm not even trying to say you're straight up wrong. I'm saying if what you're saying is true, tell me what comic it is so I can read it.

I'm not talking about what age we see Franklin portrayed as. I'm talking about the reason you're giving as to why we see him that age and when you say this "He is the reason why all these characters have been around the same age for 40+ years. He doesn't let the characters age because he wants them to stay the way he remembers them."

I'm talking about the reason you just gave. It's completely made up. Again if you can show me a comic that actually says what you said I'd be grateful since I never came across it. So just tell me what comic that happened in.
What important incarnation of Franklin is from Power Pack? You talking about those short lived Power Pack minis? That time he joined the team for a while?
Again, I'm not disputing Franklin's reality warping abilities. I don't know how much clearer I can make that to you. It's pretty established he's one of the most powerful.

Just show me what Marvel comic says what you said so I can be better informed. Show me what comic says this
Cuz last I checked, Marvel heroes not aging is cuz of Marvel's sliding timescale and that's an editorial decision not an in comic explanation. Not Franklin. What you posted seems to just be a fan theory that'll never be official in the actual comics.
Maybe it's cuz I've kept up with the F4 comics for more than the past decade but that is no longer the case. So maybe you're just not up to date with how things are now.

As far as HR, I haven't read that event since around '03-'04 so if I'm wrong I apologize but I could have sworn it was a celestial that told Franklin that he couldn't have those 2 universes coexist so he could either choose the HR universe to survive or 616.

Don't hate on Power Pack!!

And the "Franklin Richard paradox" is not necessarily stated but it's talked about often anytime he is brought up. Many of my boys who are still into comics would talk about this often but it's never been considered 100% fact but at the same time it makes a lot of sense.

http://zak-site.com/Great-American-Novel/ff_franklin.html

http://majorspoilers.com/2011/08/19...case-file-0001-the-franklin-richards-paradox/

Great reads when you get the chance, I'm sure you'll find something's in there that you may not have noticed before.

Also wish I could embed the link but I'm at work on mobile (going over break time at that ) The guy who runs marvel explained YT page is Amazing. Besides a couple in this thread along with you zik, and some of my Old comic buddies, it's hard finding people this knowledgable. Will elaborate more later but take a look!...

 

[sunshineblotters]

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The shorter commercial that was on tv has other scenes like the hulkbust flying before coming togethers

I have the whole video on my phone

Damn I need to find this

 

[tay1]

Seems like that thing we were talm bout in thre AOS thread may come true seeing how Fury got the Shaft trenchcoat back

 

[AEA18]

 

[rfx45]

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[Master Zik]

I have Heroes Reborn, the Onslaught event, and the comic where Doom saves the HR Earth. That's not what happened at all. If you have it I'd suggest you reread it or at least read the wiki entry which are pretty accurate for the most part.. At no point was Franklin forced to choose which universe to save. The 616 predates the HR universe. Franklin created the HR universe to save the heroes from Onslaught when they were gonna sacrifice themselves to stop him.

I'm not even trying to say you're straight up wrong. I'm saying if what you're saying is true, tell me what comic it is so I can read it.

I'm not talking about what age we see Franklin portrayed as. I'm talking about the reason you're giving as to why we see him that age and when you say this "He is the reason why all these characters have been around the same age for 40+ years. He doesn't let the characters age because he wants them to stay the way he remembers them."

I'm talking about the reason you just gave. It's completely made up. Again if you can show me a comic that actually says what you said I'd be grateful since I never came across it. So just tell me what comic that happened in.
What important incarnation of Franklin is from Power Pack? You talking about those short lived Power Pack minis? That time he joined the team for a while?
Again, I'm not disputing Franklin's reality warping abilities. I don't know how much clearer I can make that to you. It's pretty established he's one of the most powerful.

Just show me what Marvel comic says what you said so I can be better informed. Show me what comic says this
Cuz last I checked, Marvel heroes not aging is cuz of Marvel's sliding timescale and that's an editorial decision not an in comic explanation. Not Franklin. What you posted seems to just be a fan theory that'll never be official in the actual comics.
Maybe it's cuz I've kept up with the F4 comics for more than the past decade but that is no longer the case. So maybe you're just not up to date with how things are now.

As far as HR, I haven't read that event since around '03-'04 so if I'm wrong I apologize but I could have sworn it was a celestial that told Franklin that he couldn't have those 2 universes coexist so he could either choose the HR universe to survive or 616.

They told him his creation had to end when they found out he could create pocket universes. The 616 was never in danger.

The real heroes end up going back to the 616. Franklin saves the HR and puts it back in his pocket universe/closet, and later Doom stranded there brings the earth to the main universe.

Don't hate on Power Pack!!

And the "Franklin Richard paradox" is not necessarily stated but it's talked about often anytime he is brought up.

Brought up where though?

I've been reading the F4 comics since Millar's run consistently and caught up with past stuff. When Franklin's used or vital it's never about him using his powers to stay the same age or make all ppl in the universe stay around the same age because he wants it that way.

In the most recent comics, his power can't even help stop the end of the multiverse which is what leads us to Secret Wars.

Many of my boys who are still into comics would talk about this often but it's never been considered 100% fact but at the same time it makes a lot of sense.

http://zak-site.com/Great-American-Novel/ff_franklin.html

http://majorspoilers.com/2011/08/19...case-file-0001-the-franklin-richards-paradox/

Great reads when you get the chance, I'm sure you'll find something's in there that you may not have noticed before.

Also wish I could embed the link but I'm at work on mobile (going over break time at that ) The guy who runs marvel explained YT page is Amazing. Besides a couple in this thread along with you zik, and some of my Old comic buddies, it's hard finding people this knowledgable. Will elaborate more later but take a look!...

Well this is what I thought. It's a popular fan theory.

I've heard similar about Franklin but it's never been confirmed. There's never even been a story exploring it really. It's no different than theories I've across about Legion and how he's secretly running the entire Marvel universe through the X-Men. There's similar stuff about the Scarlet Witch ever since House of M.

I don't think Marvel will ever tell that story now though. Even more so with what's going to end up being revealed this September.

So yeah, no huge dispute here. I just wanted to be clear on some things or be informed if I've completely missed out on something I should've been knew








But here's another promotional cover you can make stuff about man

Namor! Beast! Wolverine! Captain Britain! Spider-Woman! Sentry! Mr. Fantastic! They're all coming to the MCU!

 

[slighted]

Stark putting everybody on.

Not digging Quicksilver's accent either.

 

[lamekilla]

They told him his creation had to end when they found out he could create pocket universes. The 616 was never in danger.

The real heroes end up going back to the 616. Franklin saves the HR and puts it back in his pocket universe/closet, and later Doom stranded there brings the earth to the main universe.


Brought up where though?

I've been reading the F4 comics since Millar's run consistently and caught up with past stuff. When Franklin's used or vital it's never about him using his powers to stay the same age or make all ppl in the universe stay around the same age because he wants it that way.

In the most recent comics, his power can't even help stop the end of the multiverse which is what leads us to Secret Wars.
Well this is what I thought. It's a popular fan theory.

I've heard similar about Franklin but it's never been confirmed. There's never even been a story exploring it really. It's no different than theories I've across about Legion and how he's secretly running the entire Marvel universe through the X-Men. There's similar stuff about the Scarlet Witch ever since House of M.

I don't think Marvel will ever tell that story now though. Even more so with what's going to end up being revealed this September.

So yeah, no huge dispute here. I just wanted to be clear on some things or be informed if I've completely missed out on something I should've been knew








But here's another promotional cover you can make stuff about man

Namor! Beast! Wolverine! Captain Britain! Spider-Woman! Sentry! Mr. Fantastic! They're all coming to the MCU!

Here we go having a cool nerd discussion and you try and shade me with the poster. Tsk tsk Zik

 

[Fozz]

Quicksilver with the accent. Interesting.