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It's Israeli policy thats been ongoing since the country's existence.Originally Posted by Hazeleyed Honey
However, I am against assassinations of political leaders, and I think they should be brought face the judicial system through the court of law and dealt with that way instead of straight up being assassinated.
Originally Posted by Carlos Tevez
It's Israeli policy thats been ongoing since the country's existence.Originally Posted by Hazeleyed Honey
However, I am against assassinations of political leaders, and I think they should be brought face the judicial system through the court of law and dealt with that way instead of straight up being assassinated.
What many people dont know (something I just recently found out) is that the Israel Prime Minister must approve of these Mossad hits before they are carried out. Golda Meir approved of the Mossad assassinations of the Munich attackers, Netenyahu approved of assassination attempts in his first time in office and he likely knew that this was going to go down last week.
I have so much admiration and yet feel so much disdain towards the Israeli government. They are one of the most well-organized and powerful countries in the world that are able to achieve whatever they want but I dislike how they have little regard for Arab lives. On the other hand, Arabs have little regard for Israeli lives and even less regard for their own lives.
-Political groups that use suicide bombsOriginally Posted by Hazeleyed Honey
Originally Posted by Carlos Tevez
It's Israeli policy thats been ongoing since the country's existence.Originally Posted by Hazeleyed Honey
However, I am against assassinations of political leaders, and I think they should be brought face the judicial system through the court of law and dealt with that way instead of straight up being assassinated.
What many people dont know (something I just recently found out) is that the Israel Prime Minister must approve of these Mossad hits before they are carried out. Golda Meir approved of the Mossad assassinations of the Munich attackers, Netenyahu approved of assassination attempts in his first time in office and he likely knew that this was going to go down last week.
I have so much admiration and yet feel so much disdain towards the Israeli government. They are one of the most well-organized and powerful countries in the world that are able to achieve whatever they want but I dislike how they have little regard for Arab lives. On the other hand, Arabs have little regard for Israeli lives and even less regard for their own lives.
I know it is Israeli policy. I am just against political assassinations for many reasons when it comes to whoever. There is a reason why Mossad have the best trained snipers in the world.
The Israeli government are organized and powerful, but that is because they have the backing of the hegemony of the world. I also think they are one of the most ruthless governments out there since their existence. They do things very dirty and just in cold blood for a government that claims they are democratic and for human rights. When you said that Arabs have even less regard for their own lives..Are you talking about political groups that use the method of suicide bomb terrorism?
The Israelis stole their land, though.Originally Posted by Carlos Tevez
-Political groups that use suicide bombsOriginally Posted by Hazeleyed Honey
Originally Posted by Carlos Tevez
It's Israeli policy thats been ongoing since the country's existence.Originally Posted by Hazeleyed Honey
However, I am against assassinations of political leaders, and I think they should be brought face the judicial system through the court of law and dealt with that way instead of straight up being assassinated.
What many people dont know (something I just recently found out) is that the Israel Prime Minister must approve of these Mossad hits before they are carried out. Golda Meir approved of the Mossad assassinations of the Munich attackers, Netenyahu approved of assassination attempts in his first time in office and he likely knew that this was going to go down last week.
I have so much admiration and yet feel so much disdain towards the Israeli government. They are one of the most well-organized and powerful countries in the world that are able to achieve whatever they want but I dislike how they have little regard for Arab lives. On the other hand, Arabs have little regard for Israeli lives and even less regard for their own lives.
I know it is Israeli policy. I am just against political assassinations for many reasons when it comes to whoever. There is a reason why Mossad have the best trained snipers in the world.
The Israeli government are organized and powerful, but that is because they have the backing of the hegemony of the world. I also think they are one of the most ruthless governments out there since their existence. They do things very dirty and just in cold blood for a government that claims they are democratic and for human rights. When you said that Arabs have even less regard for their own lives..Are you talking about political groups that use the method of suicide bomb terrorism?
-Arab leaders that treat their people like crap while sending stolen money away to European bank accounts
-Arabs who celebrate the deaths of a handful of Israeli citizens/soldiers, that often comes at the expense of 10x more Arab casualties
The biggest problem is with the crooks that rule over Arab countries. The Israeli/Palestine issue could've been resolved decades ago if crooks like Arafat weren't sending foreign aid money to personal bank accounts and having his family live in France while he continued to 'fight' for the rights of his people (aka put on a show that he was actually trying to help his people in front of the whole world).
The Arab world has become selfish and it has been every-man-for-themselves since Israel's existence. If Arabs/Arab leaders valued their own lives then no one would be sitting here 60-years later complaining about Israel's human rights violations. Instead we have some leaders (like Mubarak) who back Israel in order to win American support and maintain his power. You have other leaders (like Al-Assad) who openly criticize Israel just to win the public's support when it'd be more prudent to sit down with them and work out a lasting solution that would actually benefit his own people. While Israelis and Jews are working in solidarity, Arabs are bickering and fighting and just acting in their own interests.
A lot of people do not (cannot really) understand the mentality that many Jews (specifically of European origin) have. When you ( as a people) know that there is no one to help you but yourself, then nothing is off limits. Just like Tupac said in changes, "... do what you gotta do...to survive".Originally Posted by Hazeleyed Honey
Originally Posted by Carlos Tevez
It's Israeli policy thats been ongoing since the country's existence.Originally Posted by Hazeleyed Honey
However, I am against assassinations of political leaders, and I think they should be brought face the judicial system through the court of law and dealt with that way instead of straight up being assassinated.
What many people dont know (something I just recently found out) is that the Israel Prime Minister must approve of these Mossad hits before they are carried out. Golda Meir approved of the Mossad assassinations of the Munich attackers, Netenyahu approved of assassination attempts in his first time in office and he likely knew that this was going to go down last week.
I have so much admiration and yet feel so much disdain towards the Israeli government. They are one of the most well-organized and powerful countries in the world that are able to achieve whatever they want but I dislike how they have little regard for Arab lives. On the other hand, Arabs have little regard for Israeli lives and even less regard for their own lives.
I know it is Israeli policy. I am just against political assassinations for many reasons when it comes to whoever. There is a reason why Mossad have the best trained snipers in the world.
The Israeli government are organized and powerful, but that is because they have the backing of the hegemony of the world. I also think they are one of the most ruthless governments out there since their existence. They do things very dirty and just in cold blood for a government that claims they are democratic and for human rights. When you said that Arabs have even less regard for their own lives..Are you talking about political groups that use the method of suicide bomb terrorism?
The conflict could've been resolved at Taba if Israel hadn't refused to cooperate. We could throw hypothetical situations out there left and right. While I recognize that this is a fact and that each entity acts in it's own interest, one can't be surprised when Israel holds the amount of power it does. Where as Israel continuously claims to be held at gun point by all these scary Arabs, it is really the Arabs that are scared to step on the Israelis toes. That is why they don't stand up for Palestine. While I don't defend it, I understand it. Also, Egypt gets money from America. That's another reason why they conform to America's ridiculous support for the worst current human rights violater in the world.Originally Posted by Carlos Tevez
-Political groups that use suicide bombsOriginally Posted by Hazeleyed Honey
Originally Posted by Carlos Tevez
It's Israeli policy thats been ongoing since the country's existence.Originally Posted by Hazeleyed Honey
However, I am against assassinations of political leaders, and I think they should be brought face the judicial system through the court of law and dealt with that way instead of straight up being assassinated.
What many people dont know (something I just recently found out) is that the Israel Prime Minister must approve of these Mossad hits before they are carried out. Golda Meir approved of the Mossad assassinations of the Munich attackers, Netenyahu approved of assassination attempts in his first time in office and he likely knew that this was going to go down last week.
I have so much admiration and yet feel so much disdain towards the Israeli government. They are one of the most well-organized and powerful countries in the world that are able to achieve whatever they want but I dislike how they have little regard for Arab lives. On the other hand, Arabs have little regard for Israeli lives and even less regard for their own lives.
I know it is Israeli policy. I am just against political assassinations for many reasons when it comes to whoever. There is a reason why Mossad have the best trained snipers in the world.
The Israeli government are organized and powerful, but that is because they have the backing of the hegemony of the world. I also think they are one of the most ruthless governments out there since their existence. They do things very dirty and just in cold blood for a government that claims they are democratic and for human rights. When you said that Arabs have even less regard for their own lives..Are you talking about political groups that use the method of suicide bomb terrorism?
-Arab leaders that treat their people like crap while sending stolen money away to European bank accounts
-Arabs who celebrate the deaths of a handful of Israeli citizens/soldiers, that often comes at the expense of 10x more Arab casualties
The biggest problem is with the crooks that rule over Arab countries. The Israeli/Palestine issue could've been resolved decades ago if crooks like Arafat weren't sending foreign aid money to personal bank accounts and having his family live in France while he continued to 'fight' for the rights of his people (aka put on a show that he was actually trying to help his people in front of the whole world).
The Arab world has become selfish and it has been every-man-for-themselves since Israel's existence. If Arabs/Arab leaders valued their own lives then no one would be sitting here 60-years later complaining about Israel's human rights violations. Instead we have some leaders (like Mubarak) who back Israel in order to win American support and maintain his power. You have other leaders (like Al-Assad) who openly criticize Israel just to win the public's support when it'd be more prudent to sit down with them and work out a lasting solution that would actually benefit his own people. While Israelis and Jews are working in solidarity, Arabs are bickering and fighting and just acting in their own interests.
You are out of your mind if you believe that certain Arab government do not support the Palestinians because they are somehow coerced not too.Originally Posted by Mo Matik
The conflict could've been resolved at Taba if Israel hadn't refused to cooperate. We could throw hypothetical situations out there left and right. While I recognize that this is a fact and that each entity acts in it's own interest, one can't be surprised when Israel holds the amount of power it does. Where as Israel continuously claims to be held at gun point by all these scary Arabs, it is really the Arabs that are scared to step on the Israelis toes. That is why they don't stand up for Palestine. While I don't defend it, I understand it. Also, Egypt gets money from America. That's another reason why they conform to America's ridiculous support for the worst current human rights violater in the world.Originally Posted by Carlos Tevez
-Political groups that use suicide bombsOriginally Posted by Hazeleyed Honey
Originally Posted by Carlos Tevez
It's Israeli policy thats been ongoing since the country's existence.Originally Posted by Hazeleyed Honey
However, I am against assassinations of political leaders, and I think they should be brought face the judicial system through the court of law and dealt with that way instead of straight up being assassinated.
What many people dont know (something I just recently found out) is that the Israel Prime Minister must approve of these Mossad hits before they are carried out. Golda Meir approved of the Mossad assassinations of the Munich attackers, Netenyahu approved of assassination attempts in his first time in office and he likely knew that this was going to go down last week.
I have so much admiration and yet feel so much disdain towards the Israeli government. They are one of the most well-organized and powerful countries in the world that are able to achieve whatever they want but I dislike how they have little regard for Arab lives. On the other hand, Arabs have little regard for Israeli lives and even less regard for their own lives.
I know it is Israeli policy. I am just against political assassinations for many reasons when it comes to whoever. There is a reason why Mossad have the best trained snipers in the world.
The Israeli government are organized and powerful, but that is because they have the backing of the hegemony of the world. I also think they are one of the most ruthless governments out there since their existence. They do things very dirty and just in cold blood for a government that claims they are democratic and for human rights. When you said that Arabs have even less regard for their own lives..Are you talking about political groups that use the method of suicide bomb terrorism?
-Arab leaders that treat their people like crap while sending stolen money away to European bank accounts
-Arabs who celebrate the deaths of a handful of Israeli citizens/soldiers, that often comes at the expense of 10x more Arab casualties
The biggest problem is with the crooks that rule over Arab countries. The Israeli/Palestine issue could've been resolved decades ago if crooks like Arafat weren't sending foreign aid money to personal bank accounts and having his family live in France while he continued to 'fight' for the rights of his people (aka put on a show that he was actually trying to help his people in front of the whole world).
The Arab world has become selfish and it has been every-man-for-themselves since Israel's existence. If Arabs/Arab leaders valued their own lives then no one would be sitting here 60-years later complaining about Israel's human rights violations. Instead we have some leaders (like Mubarak) who back Israel in order to win American support and maintain his power. You have other leaders (like Al-Assad) who openly criticize Israel just to win the public's support when it'd be more prudent to sit down with them and work out a lasting solution that would actually benefit his own people. While Israelis and Jews are working in solidarity, Arabs are bickering and fighting and just acting in their own interests.
Like I said, the Taba summit mandates are widely the most agreed upon by scholars, but Israel refuses to accept these terms. Every year the same UN mandate comes out for the return of Palestinian land, but it fails.
All one needs to see is the countless reports of Human rights violations. Look at the Goldstone report. The war crimes are apparent and easy to find if one simply opens their eyes. No one is going to argue that Hamas does not use terrorist tactics, because it's true. But if I were to say Israel uses much worse tactics, all Hell would break lose, despite it being true.
Israelis are in conflict with the rest of the world as well as international law, OTHER than America, big brother. That is the ridiculous part. They need to accept the human right violations they have done, and simply stop doing it.
The people of the West Bank have no food, no shelter, no medical supplies, no nothing. They don't even have cement to rebuild the homes Israelis demolished. I don't see how you can chalk up the inability for resolve to "Arabs bickering and fighting."
Yes it's not a cohesive world. But Saudi Arabia and America are buddy buddy. They get millions of dollars annually from America, which is given back to America for weapons. Same with Egypt. Same with Israel. They are all in the back pocket of America. It's the money.Originally Posted by wawaweewa
You are out of your mind if you believe that certain Arab government do not support the Palestinians because they are somehow coerced not too.Originally Posted by Mo Matik
The conflict could've been resolved at Taba if Israel hadn't refused to cooperate. We could throw hypothetical situations out there left and right. While I recognize that this is a fact and that each entity acts in it's own interest, one can't be surprised when Israel holds the amount of power it does. Where as Israel continuously claims to be held at gun point by all these scary Arabs, it is really the Arabs that are scared to step on the Israelis toes. That is why they don't stand up for Palestine. While I don't defend it, I understand it. Also, Egypt gets money from America. That's another reason why they conform to America's ridiculous support for the worst current human rights violater in the world.Originally Posted by Carlos Tevez
-Political groups that use suicide bombsOriginally Posted by Hazeleyed Honey
Originally Posted by Carlos Tevez
It's Israeli policy thats been ongoing since the country's existence.Originally Posted by Hazeleyed Honey
However, I am against assassinations of political leaders, and I think they should be brought face the judicial system through the court of law and dealt with that way instead of straight up being assassinated.
What many people dont know (something I just recently found out) is that the Israel Prime Minister must approve of these Mossad hits before they are carried out. Golda Meir approved of the Mossad assassinations of the Munich attackers, Netenyahu approved of assassination attempts in his first time in office and he likely knew that this was going to go down last week.
I have so much admiration and yet feel so much disdain towards the Israeli government. They are one of the most well-organized and powerful countries in the world that are able to achieve whatever they want but I dislike how they have little regard for Arab lives. On the other hand, Arabs have little regard for Israeli lives and even less regard for their own lives.
I know it is Israeli policy. I am just against political assassinations for many reasons when it comes to whoever. There is a reason why Mossad have the best trained snipers in the world.
The Israeli government are organized and powerful, but that is because they have the backing of the hegemony of the world. I also think they are one of the most ruthless governments out there since their existence. They do things very dirty and just in cold blood for a government that claims they are democratic and for human rights. When you said that Arabs have even less regard for their own lives..Are you talking about political groups that use the method of suicide bomb terrorism?
-Arab leaders that treat their people like crap while sending stolen money away to European bank accounts
-Arabs who celebrate the deaths of a handful of Israeli citizens/soldiers, that often comes at the expense of 10x more Arab casualties
The biggest problem is with the crooks that rule over Arab countries. The Israeli/Palestine issue could've been resolved decades ago if crooks like Arafat weren't sending foreign aid money to personal bank accounts and having his family live in France while he continued to 'fight' for the rights of his people (aka put on a show that he was actually trying to help his people in front of the whole world).
The Arab world has become selfish and it has been every-man-for-themselves since Israel's existence. If Arabs/Arab leaders valued their own lives then no one would be sitting here 60-years later complaining about Israel's human rights violations. Instead we have some leaders (like Mubarak) who back Israel in order to win American support and maintain his power. You have other leaders (like Al-Assad) who openly criticize Israel just to win the public's support when it'd be more prudent to sit down with them and work out a lasting solution that would actually benefit his own people. While Israelis and Jews are working in solidarity, Arabs are bickering and fighting and just acting in their own interests.
Like I said, the Taba summit mandates are widely the most agreed upon by scholars, but Israel refuses to accept these terms. Every year the same UN mandate comes out for the return of Palestinian land, but it fails.
All one needs to see is the countless reports of Human rights violations. Look at the Goldstone report. The war crimes are apparent and easy to find if one simply opens their eyes. No one is going to argue that Hamas does not use terrorist tactics, because it's true. But if I were to say Israel uses much worse tactics, all Hell would break lose, despite it being true.
Israelis are in conflict with the rest of the world as well as international law, OTHER than America, big brother. That is the ridiculous part. They need to accept the human right violations they have done, and simply stop doing it.
The people of the West Bank have no food, no shelter, no medical supplies, no nothing. They don't even have cement to rebuild the homes Israelis demolished. I don't see how you can chalk up the inability for resolve to "Arabs bickering and fighting."
Certain Arab governments (especially Saudi Arabia and Jordan) do not find it to be in their interest to go full out for the Palestinians. The Arab world is not a cohesive world. For that, if anything, you can blame the British and French.
Buddy, Buddy doesn't mean !$@#. Israel is "buddy buddy" with America too, yet they sell advanced weapons to China and work on weapons with Russia. American sells weapons to the Saudis and the Egyptians. At the end of the day, business is business and everyone looks out for their own interests.Originally Posted by Mo Matik
Yes it's not a cohesive world. But Saudi Arabia and America are buddy buddy. They get millions of dollars annually from America, which is given back to America for weapons. Same with Egypt. Same with Israel. They are all in the back pocket of America. It's the money.
In an ideal world the wouldn't be any on either side. The situation in the near east is far from ideal.Originally Posted by Mo Matik
Regardless of this fact, I don't see what it has to do with Israel's human rights violations.
Many people do this and i dont know why.Originally Posted by whywesteppin
One problem is that we insist on calling ourselves Arab first (instead of whatever nationality we are).