What deal should he have been given then, if one at all?
Exactly.
I only pointed it out since both deals happened today. The playoff/non playoff argument is irrelevant since the Bucks will most likely lose Ellis and could lose Jennings as well. Without just one of them, their playoff chances take a significant hit. And considering that they were a sub .500 team that made the eighth seed the Wizards could very well move into that seed with the roster they have currently. You also have to remember that this is the last year of John Wall's contract and it is clearly in the best interest of the team to build around him and make moves that ensures he stays. One of his wishes were more players who could stretch the floor and Martell Webster was one of the league leaders in 3 point percentage last year. Their numbers are comparable, but Webster is more multidimensional and can drive and finish with a dunk more often than Dunleavy would and is a better defensive player on top of that. I never said it was a great deal, just not as bad as people are making it out to be. That's a good point PMatic.
My fault I thought Milwaukee resigned him.
Hopefully. I'm thinking the Webster deal helps to ensure he stays, it's not looking like the Wiz will be able to pick up that stretch PF, unless these Jamison talks grow serious.
Where did I ever say hinged? John Wall wanted more stretch players --> one of the league leaders in 3 point percentage was resigned. You can't deny there's absolutely no correlation.
Which basically means stretching the floor. Most of the articles featuring the quote have the word "stretch" specifically in the title, you're mincing words now. He'll be using the exact word "stretch" with the only 3 point shooters being Beal and Rice Jr. (not sure how Porter will transition yet) in your proposed roster. Just for the sake of how good the team is this year and filling a gap from behind the arc, Webster is a good fit. In b4 you mention how Webster is a 3 when in reality the Wiz just need players who can consistently make a long range (long 2 or 3) jump shot regardless if they are a 4 or not.
When someone is a pick and pop 4, they are a player like Kevin Garnett or Chris Bosh who both have great long two point jump shots. This is called "stretching the floor." Again, going back to your proposed roster without Webster, the Wizards have very few players capable of hitting these long two point jump shots that John Wall was literally referring to and in addition there is a lack of players capable from the perimeter as well. While John may not have literally have said that part, it would be a concern once the season was under way had the Wizards not addressed it with this signing. I don't mean this in any condescending way at all, I'm just breaking down to the basics. I do agree it was pricey and I never said it was a great deal, but the need was addressed. What I was saying in my original post that you disagreed with was: 1. That there were worse signings this offseason 2. The Wizards are addressing needs which is a step for them when you look back on other signings they have made of less deserving players. Both of those are valid points.I'm not mincing anything
I'm just trying to figure out how him LITERALLY saying "we need a pick and pop 4" translates to "we need stretch players".
He never said anything about playerS.
He was clearly referring to Anthony Bennett when everyone thought he was a possibility
You are right we over paid for this... He didn't even finish last season. And at the end of the day he is just a role player that may have just had a decent season in a contract year
"It's a deal we had to make." - certain Wiz fan who claims that about every Wiz deal
Horrible contract, wings are plentiful in the NBA and to be had for cheap...Plus, wasn't the point of drafting Otto to let him take his lumps and go from the get-go. And you still have Ariza as well. Dumb move
