Massive ‘Avengers: Endgame’ leak spoils hero deaths, a surprise villain, credits scenes, and more
Thanos apparently doesn’t die as was initially hinted, but he does get “the crap beat out of him.” The Avengers will use the proton cannon against him in the final battle, likely the one we saw in
Infinity War, to slow Thanos down, and it’s War Machine who wields it. “That’s why his new suit is bulky,” the Redditor said. Thanos is apparently impressed by Captain Marvel’s fighting, but the Avengers will need “brains, strength, and planning” to beat the Titan. “Spider-Man plays a big roll in the fight” as well, he said.
The leaker also said that time travel scenes are actually in the second trailer:
Ok, remember when Thor was floating in the air and looking at his hammer that was them resetting the Wakanda fight and when they showed the scene when a ship was flying over a lit up city skyline that also was a time travel scene with Cap, Tony, and Ant-Man while the other distract Thanos.
Finally, he posted a longer comment about the first half of the movie and made a new post where he says it’s actually
the first quarter of the film he’s discussing. Here’s that comment, edited for clarity:
First half of the movie is the remaining Avengers and newcomers reuniting to discuss the situation at hand and to come up with a plan.
Ant-Man rants on about the Quantum Realm and quantum energy and how he wasn’t affected by the snap because of laws of quantum physics. He also tells them he ran into a guy in the quantum realm who helped him get home to the right time that guy being Doctor Strange.
Captain Marvel eager to get a piece of Thanos flashes her power startling the Avengers. Thor’s tells them they need more muscle. Stark has a plan to give everyone suits to survive in the Quantum Realm and outer space.
Stark, Ant-Man, and Captain America head into the Quantum Realm while the others seek help from remaining survivors of Wakanda, mainly Shuri, to seek help on repairing Vision. Banner also tags along going to Wakanda.
Rocket, Hawkeye, Black Widow, Captain Marvel, Nebula, and Thor head into space to look for Valkyrie and other Asgardians.
The older leak
This brings me to an older leak, one that was posted on
4chan at some point last May by the same person who posted accurate information about
Infinity War well ahead of the film’s premiere. In case you want to check out the accuracy of that
Infinity War leak, see the following image, which shows exactly what was posted on
4chan and when it happened. You’ll notice several inconsistencies, but the major
Infinity War plotlines are still there. That means the person has had access to Marvel scripts in the past, even if they were dummy scripts that contained some fake info.
Image Source: Reddit
Fast-forward to May 2018, and someone saved all the new
Endgame information and brought it over
to Reddit, where it’s still available. Check it out in full below — we’ve emphasized all the parts that match the new theory we covered earlier in this post.
Iron Man reassembles the Avengers and decides to build his own Infinity Gauntlet to undo everything that Thanos did.
They recruit Ant-Man to help them travel through time and space using the Quantum Real to retrieve the Infinity Stones from different time periods. Thanos finds out about their plans and becomes hellbent on stopping them.
The movie revolves around the relationship between Captain America and Iron Man.
At one point, Captain America and Thor fight Thanos. Timeline alterations have restored Mjolnir, and
Cap wields it against Thanos to allow the others to escape
and is killed holding Thanos off.
At one point, Hawkeye must protect the unfinished Stark Gauntlet from Thanos’ minions. He plays an ‘instrumental’ role in Thanos’ defeat.
Thor’s subplot centers on him assembling an army to challenge Thanos. Captain Marvel joins him.
Hulk’s subplot centers on
Banner and Hulk finally merging to become Professor Hulk. He is the one that ultimately wields the Stark Gauntlet against Thanos,
losing his arm in the process.
Nebula’s subplot centers on her efforts to redeem herself. At one point, she fights her murderous past self.
Several MCU movies are revisited and retconned (probably not permanently), such as the Avengers retrieving the Power Stone creating a timeline where the Guardians of the Galaxy never came together.
There’s a pivotal scene between Doctor Strange and a fully CGI character being shot on a secret location, with a skeleton crew, and which takes up a sizeable portion of the budget.
Only two of the original Avengers (Cap, Stark, Thor, Hulk, Hawkeye, and Black Widow) meant to survive the movie.
Cap dies.
The title was AVENGERS: INFINITY GAUNTLET at one point, but it might be changed after Zoe Saldana accidentally leaked it.
As you can see above, there are plenty of similarities between these two leaks, which obviously increases the likelihood that they’re accurate. Of course nothing has been confirmed, but if any of this is indeed true, we’re about to see the heartbreaking death of Captain America in
Endgame.
Prologue
The other day we looked at
a post from Chinathat was shared online back in January, long before
Captain Marvel premiered. That post contained details about the movie, the post-credits scenes, as well as the
Endgamefootage that Disney showed privately months later. Also, the post is filled with references to past MCU films, as well as connections with other movies and links to religion and mythology. The problem is that it’s written in Chinese, and Google Translate does a poor job of translating it. We found a fantastic recap in English, though, and you should
definitely check it out.
UPDATE: Redditors were able to prove that the post was edited. It’s still worth a read, but there’s no reason to believe anything in it.
In what follows, however, we’re going to focus on an extremely messy Ask-Me-Anything post
on Reddit from a user who created an account solely to leak information about
Endgame. He supposedly worked for Marvel Studios, but he was fired for “no reason at all for other people leaking info about the movie,” so he decided to leak tons of details from the film.
It should be noted that he has been terrible at actually responding to questions from users, as he had only just discovered how to use Reddit. I know what you’ll say, which is what many people on Reddit also said: “this must be fake.” Yes, it could very well be fake. But the moderators at Reddit did verify this person, at least in part:
This user has been partially verified by the mods as someone that likely has relevant information or spoilers.
They have provided details about their employment we will not make public unless OP decides to release that info. Based on this it seems plausible enough to let the thread get moving while we work on verifying the one last piece of evidence we need to say this is 100% legit
With that in mind, let’s look at everything the Redditor had to share about the movie while answering some of the questions ourselves that were asked in the post.
Superhero deaths
Only one Avenger will die in
Endgameaccording to the Redditor:
But anyway a part I really remember in the filming is Captain America dying in Tony’s arms after he uses the gauntlets made from Thor’s hammer. Cap remembered at the last second [that] he almost lifts Thor hammer which is a flashback moment in
Endgame
In other comments, he explained that Cap is the only other person who can lift the gauntlet made from Thor’s old hammer — which begs the question, how did they retrieve the old hammer that was destroyed by Hella in
Ragnarok? Tony and Shuri recreated the hammer using data extracted from Vision and the Mind Stone, according to the post on Reddit.
Using the new gauntlet, Captain America resurrects the dead, and the final battle will take place at the old Avengers tower. Yes, all the heroes will be back for this one.
Earlier in the film, Cap and Tony have their moment to fix the issues between them:
It’s like their silent at first then it’s a heartwarming moment, and they have a lot to talk about in short time, and Tony talks about being wrong about the signing accords and cap talks about them needing to be in check, and the should handle future problems in a better way.
It’s not a whole convo about it just a quick apology from both sides, and they move on tony thought cap dyed and visceral.
Other secondary characters will also die in the movie, and someone will lose an arm, though it grows back. It’s unclear who loses the limb because of the sloppy way the Redditor was answering questions.
Image Source: Marvel Studios
Tony Stark
As for Stark, he will retire after the final battle, the leaker said. He also said that Stark will bring in new Avengers and that Nick Fury makes Spider-Man the captain of the team. This particular claim is a bit strange, considering that Marvel’s Kevin Feige said before that Captain Marvel would become the new leader of the Avengers. Not to mention that Nick Fury seems to meet Spider-Man for the first time in Far From Home, which takes place chronologically after the events of Endgame.
To get back to Earth, Stark will do some tinkering on the Benatar using whatever is available in the ship:
Stark uses the battery the Rocket stole as an energy fuel source the power the ship alongside using parts from Nebula and Stark finds Rocket’s nano repair gun which has only a little bit left inside and I mean a little bit.
Professor Hulk
Professor Hulk apparently doesn’t appear until the third act, and he’s the one who delivers the final blow to Thanos.
Thanos looks at Hulk with a mad grin you again I guess you didn’t learn, professor hulk grins charges full speed toward Thanos drawing his fist back clean shot to Thanos’ face. Thanos goes flying Professor Hulk yells out of rage. With Avengers theme in background.
Doctor Strange
Doctor Strange is present in astral form, and he plays a “key role” in the film. The leaker also said that Strange placed a time loop spell in Infinity War to give them time to figure out how to undo the snap.
One other interesting claim is that Doctor Strange will do something to bring Hawkeye’s family back to life, after they apparently died after the snap. Also, Strange meets up with The Ancient One while traveling back in time:
The Ancient One knew about Thanos from Doctor Strange when he goes back to visit her. He tells her what happens she is not surprised about how strong he’s become because she knew he would learn how to use the time stone. They will also show scenes were Doctor Strange looked through all the millions of timelines and outcomes. I don’t have info on that wasn’t around from that part just heard it from some of the people on set they didn’t go into detail like they [were] serious about any conversation about the movie. [They] had security people disguised as normal workers to catch people talking about so [they] can be terminated.
Hawkeye/Ronin
Hawkeye’s family was not killed by the snap itself, but they did die as a result of the snap. “When Thanos snapped people driving trains and bus, and planes get snapped to so who’s there to control” them, the leaker said. And that’s why Strange is able to revive them somehow.
Hawkeye didn’t know about the snap until Black Widow informed him:
He didn’t know about snap until widow tells him after he shows up. Then they go out on a mission and shows his anger through combat when he and widow went on a mission. She looks at him like ‘what have you become?’
This is also a somewhat dubious claim, or it’s just not being explained well. I’m pretty sure the entire world knew about the snap in the days that followed. They would refer to it at something else, of course, but it must have been pretty clear to everyone on Earth that some sort of tragedy occurred.
Finally, Hawkeye will go back in time to get Loki’s staff.
Image Source: Marvel Studios
Ant-Man
Ant-Man is of course a critical piece of the
Avengers 4 puzzle, and the leaker reveals a pivotal plot moment. Scott Lang actually goes back in time in the Quantum Realm to 1995, just after Captain Marvel flies into the sunset, so to speak:
We also have no idea how they’d obtain Thor’s old hammer, or how Fury makes Spider-Man the new captain of the team. Is Spider-Man really going to try to go on vacation without his suit immediately after being made head of the Avengers? It’s always possible that Marvel has been misleading us all along with the
Spider-Man 2 trailer, but something really doesn’t add up.
That said, if this is all true, this leak gives us almost all of the answers we were looking for. If you want to explore it in full,
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ALLEGEDLY
Some stuff lines up with previous spoilers and CM movie. This leaker has stayed consistent with his last batch of spoilers that were partially right.
Finally. I stopped watching TBL so long ago cuz they kept teasing the Reds/Liz connection. Stopped caring. Checked back in randomly to see certain ppl still alive and said I'm good on catching up.
