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Dam……folks getting shot and killed leaving a funeral home. Can’t even bury your love one in peace.
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Sure there was. The beats weren't as catchy and the artist weren't compensated as well as they are now for it.So there wasn't violence in black communities before drill rap?
So there wasn't violence in black communities before drill rap?
So there wasn't violence in black communities before drill rap?
Exactly. And, show me a gun manufacturer in the hood. The gun manufacturers NEVER get the blame.
I’ve never seen a AK47 or AR15 forged in the hood![]()
Hip hop is 40 years old…. Murders were being committed well before 1978![]()
Do gun manufacturers get royalties when they are mentioned on wax or are they paying the artists for the free advertisement?Exactly. And, show me a gun manufacturer in the hood. The gun manufacturers NEVER get the blame.
I’ve never seen a AK47 or AR15 forged in the hood![]()
Hip hop is 40 years old…. Murders were being committed well before 1978![]()
DC might not have gangs technically but they have neighborhood clicks which is basically a gang. The funeral shooting was definitely retaliation for something. Once they find out what hood the dude who’s funeral it was it’ll be easy to narrow down.
The fact that "sources" are calling it "gang related" = its going to be a long summer.
DC aint even set up like that.
Aint no command chain or structure in DC street culture.
The only organized "gangs" here are the Republicans and Democrats.
They can not call them gangs all they want. Put whatever label on it…they operate like a gang. There are indeed chains of command.
There is literally a large hybrid gang of SE/NW neighborhoods calling themselves “Fox 5 gang” which included the person whose funeral it was. I can make a whole post about what’s going on in dc right now.
Gunmemorial.org/DC
Damn near everyone on this page under 30 has a YouTube link I can share with you right now.
I don’t think anyone is asserting violence didn’t exist before “drill music” but to ignore its effect on current culture right now is baffling.
This **** deeper than Fox 5 vs. Cruddy. Cruddy is one neighborhood.
Fox 5 is like 15 different hoods at war w/ about 30 other hoods.
Not sure why folks continue to deflect from personal responsibility/accountability on here just because it’s OUR people committing these acts.
That part! The neighborhoods/Street beef is WILD out here. Dont even get started with the public housing beefs. Yall shooting each other over HUD?DC might not have gangs technically but they have neighborhood clicks which is basically a gang. The funeral shooting was definitely retaliation for something. Once they find out what hood the dude who’s funeral it was it’ll be easy to narrow down.
Its a mess that never should have happened TBH.
The displacement of over 20,000 people is definitely consequential.
Bowser Fam
Once they find out what hood the dude who’s funeral it was it’ll be easy to narrow down.
I swear some of you guys have ZERO depth or understanding of nuance at all.
****** keep screaming at the mountain top that "drill music isn't to blame" when nobody is claiming that AT ALL. Too many stuck on regurgitating corny *** political rhetoric about nothing to do with what's being discussed.
You ****** can keep crying with these 1995 *** Maxine Waters vs Hip-Hop "is rap music bad or not" takes. I don't care about some chicken/egg debate about violence and drill music. The reality is that the CURRENT culture on the street in every city across america is being heavily influenced by post-2012 Chicago gang culture...which is often documented in heavy detail in REAL TIME through "drill" music with a particular depravity that's FAR different from your retro "gangster raps" of yesteryears. ****** are not dying over turf or drug wars. I can show you 10 ****** who died this year alone for appearing in the wrong YouTube video.
Just like how homie scoffed at the "gang-related" notion and if you KNOW what's going on...you KNOW the **** was gang related. This is NOT the same DC from the "rayful edmond" era or whatever you ****** think you know about the city.
It's an extremely layered topic that seems to keep getting stuck on the surface in this thread.
What would the Drill music videos be confused with?All right, I re-watched the segment with Robert Freeman, and you’re right. The argument here is fundamentally different than the one in the 90’s.
When you disrespect somebody on social media or, you know, ‘cause we call that social media gangbanging or through a rap song then you must respond to it. If you don’t respond to it then you gonna be looked upon as week.
Back then the idea was the music glamorized violence and kids were imitating it. Yes, there was always beef -even gang beef- in rap, but the secondary scaling effects were what had people upset.
This seems to be much more about these YouTube videos as the medium of escalation. I guess it makes sense that the democratization of music video production would allow for much more widespread personal messaging.
Still, I do worry that nuance is not going to be preserved when this all gets picked up by mainstream media. Let’s see if the reaction maintains the distinction…
I swear some of you guys have ZERO depth or understanding of nuance at all.
****** keep screaming at the mountain top that "drill music isn't to blame" when nobody is claiming that AT ALL. Too many stuck on regurgitating corny *** political rhetoric about nothing to do with what's being discussed.
You ****** can keep crying with these 1995 *** Maxine Waters vs Hip-Hop "is rap music bad or not" takes. I don't care about some chicken/egg debate about violence and drill music. The reality is that the CURRENT culture on the street in every city across america is being heavily influenced by post-2012 Chicago gang culture...which is often documented in heavy detail in REAL TIME through "drill" music with a particular depravity that's FAR different from your retro "gangster raps" of yesteryears. ****** are not dying over turf or drug wars. I can show you 10 ****** who died this year alone for appearing in the wrong YouTube video.
Just like how homie scoffed at the "gang-related" notion and if you KNOW what's going on...you KNOW the **** was gang related. This is NOT the same DC from the "rayful edmond" era or whatever you ****** think you know about the city.
It's an extremely layered topic that seems to keep getting stuck on the surface in this thread.
Is rap the ONLY genre of music that exists? No one forcing y’all to listen to rap. There are tons of other genres and styles. Y’all are in denial. You actually love rap music.
No one is force feeding y’all rap. Blame the absentee parents. And hell yeah alcohol companies should be blamed but again, you guys would rather turn the other cheek.
Guns, alcohol, etc are POISON. I don’t even drink. I’ve seen what alcohol does to people.
It’s ironic you guys want to blame the MUSIC, but won’t blame guns or alcohol. It’s basically the same thing.
Same way y’all say the music can cause moods to change, so does alcohol, so does weed, so does the GUN, so does the DRUGS.
Go listen to some R&B or Jazz music
If you’re stupid enough to let a song get you tricked off the street, then you were a crash dummy to began with.
Guns were destructive before rap. Drugs were, and so were alcohol. Alcohol and drugs have been scientifically proven to make people violent but again, let’s take the easy way out and blame everything on a style of music that’s only 40 years old. Forget the centuries and millennia BEFORE rap. Human beings have always had a thirst for violence.
They can not call them gangs all they want. Put whatever label on it…they operate like a gang. There are indeed chains of command.
There is literally a large hybrid gang of SE/NW neighborhoods calling themselves “Fox 5 gang” which included the person whose funeral it was. I can make a whole post about what’s going on in dc right now.
District of Columbia Gun Violence Memorial
Learn who is killed with guns in the U.S. every day.gunmemorial.org
Damn near everyone on this page under 30 has a YouTube link I can share with you right now. 5 on the top row ALONE were Fox 5 gang.
I don’t think anyone is asserting violence didn’t exist before “drill music” but to ignore its effect on current culture right now is baffling.