Originally Posted by
Classy Freshman
Originally Posted by
ATLien Seeko
Originally Posted by Classy Freshman
So how do I get down with the people who are "in the know???"
It's like I understand that I live in the matrix, but I really have no avenue or guide to the other side.
Where does one REALLY start in attempts to gather this knowledge and conciousness???
Pick up the book Behold a Pale Horse. That's the best thing I can tell people who dont know anything about it.
So after I read this book then what???
Its not that I don't know anything about whats going on, its that I want to go hard and get as much knowledge as I can
There is no to-do list for becoming illuminated. If it was that easy someone in here would have concrete answers for all these questions. You want theknowledge, which is good, but you have to seek for yourself and use your own judgement to decipher real from bs, the more information you take in the betteryou will be able to weed out the nonsense. As you find some of this info online and other prevalent sources it would be good to ask yourself who would benefitfrom having the masses buy into any particular theory, and how would they benefit. Start with the book, it might lead you to another book, or another topicwith which you can do preliminary research online and locate other sources. Getting out and talking to people is always helpful as well. Good luck.
Originally Posted by 18key
Exactly. No doubt these 'Illuminati' organizations exist, but not in the idea that people are scared of. It's, like you said, a club for extremely wealthy people. Sure they control everyday life, whether it's insider trading on Wall Street or what have you, the moves they make influence the moves of EVERYONE. People are scared of what they dont understand. Not to say the fear isn't warranted, because it is scary how much control these groups have. From the media to politics, these super elite run the world one meeting at a time. From Obama to Rupert Murdoch to the Saudi Royal Family.
Tupac sold his soul to fame and fortune, not to the Devil, imo.
As they say, the lie is different on every level. Don't think that because someone is rich and/or famous and is a mason that they are all knowing. Thoseseeking fame and fourtune are being used as well. Those who are in on it, are only in on it to the extent that they serve their purpose to the next level up.
Originally Posted by GTEK
Fact is...
we as a people were deprived of such knowledge, which ranges from our spirutal being, health, histroy,etc.
And in return sold an whole nother entity.
One that we must revise and detach from.
There are those (illuminati if you say) who know of these things but use
such for there own beneficiary. Robbing others of themselves and selling them
something that would return back into more profit. (Such things as faslified religions, racial barriers, "civilization")
Keeping you locked and hiding you from yourself, putting you in a lifetime chase for something that isn't even there.
This is pretty much sums up what I mean and the "illuminati" he is speaking of do this to their own kind. They sell dreams to those that come to themseeking some form of personal benefit. Those really in the know do not need to chase money and power. They know it's a false reality. The masons/illuminatiare not the top of the totem pole, they are a tool. They are the workers for the true elite.
Originally Posted by
B Smooth 202
As far as Dead Prez, what you say may or may not be true, I don't have much knowledge of rastafarian symbolism but I do know they are agents of the same industry leaders just like the rest of them. They promote revolution but if you disect their music it is another aspect of social conditioning, which is what this is all about. They promote self hate and blame displacement of cultural inequalities on a psycho-social level.
You might need to re-interpret their material
Some of what I am speaking about is deeply psychological and has been conditioned in people to believe it as it sounds nobel and inteligent. For example, theentire thought process that a particular community needs to lift itself up on it's own and that they are holding themselves back ignores the fact thatthere is still covert oppression being practiced in this country. Racism has become institutionalized and, in my opinion, it is gonna take more than justinward reflection and a strive for change WITHIN the community. It's kinda like saying you only have yourself to blame and if you don't see a changethat it is due to a lack of effort on your part. It reinforces the stereotypes within the mind of the stereotyped and to others outside of the community.Whether they promote this stereotype consciously or unconsciously is irrelevant.
Originally Posted by
CallHimAR
Where do your so-called facts come from?
I'd love for you to answer this question as well FrankMatthews.
It's hard for me to belive anything as solid fact especially with this subject matter. Everything can and normally is biased. Like I said before, you haveto take in as much info as possible and use your own judgement to decipher what makes sense and what doesn't. I don't claim to have any solid facts andI am not looking down on those who don't believe this stuff, I don't fully believe alot of it, people should be skeptical but that doesn't meandismiss anything that is outside of the box. When you speak, and especially when you type it is often hard to always clarify your words as being opinion orpresumptions or even educated guesses. That being said, I have read many books on various subjects, some opinionated, some with original source documents. Ifyou were looking for a source on something specific that I said I would be happy to try to relay that to you.
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