Thread about Jesus - Questions, Bible Verses and Prayer Requests

[siete tres]

True/False: Nobody REALLY wants to go to Heaven. They just don't want to go to Hell. What is special about Heaven? On our knees all day worshipping God? Will the thought of boredom be erased from our minds because there is NO WAY that anyone is looking forward to THAT.

My thing is this. When yall start giving God praise for micro-managing type of foolishness, it is annoying.

Seen one dude on FB say something like, "I got so much faith in God that I don't even set my alarm clock anymore. God wakes me up at 6:30 am EVERY day."

I am thinking to myself, how about your body is used to it so THAT is why you wake up at that time every day.

God doesnt't give a damn about what time you wake up man

I'm Siete Tres and I approve this message

 

[tvobach]

 
Why would Sam be a "thing". Oh yeah, cause religion spreads hate. Would you have the same feeling if you had not "found" jesus?

And by your logic, if I go out to drink, I'm following satan? The Satan is my best friend cause getting wasted is pretty much a birthright for us Mexicans.

I never called Michael Sam a thing...what I mean by "the Michael Sam thing" was the Michael Sam situation. I do not consider Christianity a religion. Same feeling if I had not found Jesus? What same feeling? I am confused by what you are asking.

And here is what I mean by drinking...it is not a sin to have a beer or two or enjoy a cocktail, glass of wine, etc...you are sinning (doing what Satan wants you to do) when you go out and drink too much and get drunk.

 
Appreciate your answers.

Damning people as in going to hell. So the bible states love your neighbor, respect their differences, maybe even embrace their differences? but ultimately they are going to hell for those differences

A1: I don't get how the Michael Sam situation relates to my question. It was why not connect with god, humble yourself, etc, through different customs/traditions. But you did later on answer this by saying you learned that the only way to connect with god is through Jesus. So in your mind the only legitimate means of connecting with a higher being is through christian customs? 

A2: So you learned you can only connect with God through Jesus. A question for you, how exactly did you come to accept/agree with this statement? What proved to you or what convinced you the only way to connect with God is through Jesus? 

So I know you stated you had rough situations in your life which led you to a group where you found God through Jesus. Let's say in a similar way, a person has very rough situations that he has had to constantly deal with, which ultimately led him to a group where they learned from the Quran. So a very similar situation as you, but the only difference is Bible vs. Quran. What makes one right the other wrong in your mind? You guys ultimately achieved tranquility in almost the same manner. 

A3: So if you are friends with a non-Christian, you pray for them? You pray they accept Jesus? What exactly are you asking for in your prayers. And you just related a person who believes a different religion/no religion to drug addicts, murderers, an adulterer etc. Does that really make sense? 

A1: I was confused by your question to be honest. But I understand what you're asking now and realized I did answer it...to answer your question of in my mind the only way of connecting with a higher being is through christian customs...yes, that is what I believe. John 14:6....Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me."

A2: I came to accept this statement when I decided to live my life for Him and dedicated my life to God and started spending time in The Word every morning.

The second part of that question I'll do my best to answer but OP would probably be able to answer that question for you...he has more wisdom than I do...but I'll give it a shot. The only way I can think of to answer that question is John 3:16..."For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life."...if you believe in God, Jesus Christ, and The Holy Spirit (the Trinity)...you will live forever in Heaven. The Quran (as far as I know) does not say that.

A3: YES! I do this constantly. My best friends are non-Christians, they are going to be my groomsmen in my wedding. I pray everyday to God that He will embrace them, that something will take them to Him so they can experience a relationship with him.

I hear that a lot about comparing murderers, drug addicts, etc. about comparing them to "simple" sins. Every sin is equal in the eyes of God...someone checking out a woman he is not married to and doing heroine is that same in the eyes of God. Best example of this from The Bible I can think of is 1 John 3:15...Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.

 

[darthska]

[quote name="HTG Designs"]Had my finals one year and I was not ready for not a one of them... I had a weekend to prep. Didnt open not one book. I was so shoooookk. Like if you been to college and care about finals, you know the feels. I pppprrraaaayyyyyyyyyyyeeedd sooo hard for something to happen so I could have more time to study. And then something crazy happened.... The MTA went on strike. So my school pushed back the finals for more weeks ( i went to school in the city) due to the strike. That was so crazy. Maybe my prayers worked, maybe they didn't. But i got results. Amein.[/quote]Again, what about the next person? What about the person who was fervently praying "Please, God, don't let this strike happen," and and this person was just as deserving of getting their way as you? Heck, what about the times YOU prayed and didn't get your way? [quote name="HTG Designs"]I wish I knew what exactly what the catalyst was so I can have somethings addressed now. But I dont believe its a one size fits all type of deal. I feel that God does pick and choose. If I could tell you how, that would be the key to the universe, wouldnt it? That, I dont have.[/quote]So then the whole "God DOES answer prayer" answer is back to a question, meaning it's an unstable answer/solution. [quote name="HTG Designs"][quote name="Jab Step"]What did you mean by the God is on Israel's side comment? [/quote]I meant that the God of the scriptures/ Bible, the God of Abraham/ Isaac/Jacob, the God of the 12 Tribes of Israel, is for Israel. This beef goes back to biblical times and wont end til Yeshua Hamashiach ( Jesus isn't even accurate, it would be Joshua in english. ) returns. So... buckle in[/quote]So god is on Israel's side? He wants Israel to win?

God is ok w/ Palestinian children having limbs blown off because he's repping Israel... and you believe this because of some words written a looooooong time ago by some dudes who thought that slicing a goat's throat made up for things they did wrong? That allllll makes sense to you?

 

[bonez7]

This thread is disgusting..

Religion is not a debate nor sumthing to try n knock cuz you disagree

This isnt sports this us something ppl hold high in there life and take very seriously.. You ppl are low for trying to disprove someone's beliefs by poking holes at it.

Get a life.. I'm glad you ppl don't associate with religion simply cause you're hearts seem more accepting of evil than to shed a little bit of hope n faith into sumthing spiritually

Don't poke holes n argue over someone else's love of christ and say he doesn't exist and show disrespect in such disgusting ways if you don't agree move along there's no need for this thread religion isn't a debate.. It's about Love and worship of someone who gave you life

If you don't believe he gave you life go worship your parents cause you know they did also..keep it moving Lile I'm going to cuz i want no part of this..
As long as there's good thete will unfortunately b evil I guess so you're just giving an excuse for them to come out play op..forget it I know some of y'all are just discussing and not evil but religion is no discussion it's a.belief.. You either put your faith in it or don't.. If you don't believe why on earth would you try to disprove ot to some1 who does?? That isn't right worry about your beliefs not otherz

Me personally would never try n answer or even make sense of the abundant amount of unexplainable things involved nor question any of them cuz that's not my position nor job.. I just know and believe gods my creator and jesus is mysavior so I love the Lord.. No questions asked..some yall wud say it's thoughtless but that's the diffrence between me n you.. You question things while I trust in God..I don't need.the answers right at the moment I sumtimes try and make sense of them..but if I.can't that means he hasn't revealed this to me yet and there's a reason 4 this bigger than me

 

[DCAllAfrican]

So OP and HTG, what makes Heaven desirable?

 

[bonez7]

So OP and HTG, what makes Heaven desirable?

Dc these guys are not the ppl to answer these absurd questions the answers are within your own beliefsthere for your perspective n not others..

Why are y'all messing with these guys? They shouldn't of started this I know every answer crap cuz we all know they don't but it's no reason to mess with them over n over cuz it comes off as disrespect to those who do believe such as myself.. I know yall,want to laugh and challenge there answers but it comes off as disrespect..can yall please out,of respect for your other nt bros quit this??

If it doesn't seem desirable to you then ok move along cuz ppl cant give another person there answer they can only give there own personal belief

These guys are given you there beliefs not Answers so stop poking holes it's not right there from within what they believe not what they know it's strong faith into god which makes us sure not some mathematical fact..

 

[Comparison Ford]

 
Religious people have some of the most ridiculous, illogical, unjust viewpoints...but when we question/challenge them we're "not respecting their beliefs."

Ever come to think that maybe ideas such as homosexuals not deserving the same rights and treatment as heterosexuals, nonbelievers deserving eternal damnation regardless of the good they've done in the terrestrial world, and the notion that god allows people to act out atrocities because "free will" is seemingly more important than the lives of the innocent aren't ideas worth respecting?

Big meanies, we are.

 

[timcity2000]

Dc these guys are not the ppl to answer these absurd questions the answers are within your own beliefsthere for your perspective n not others..

Why are y'all messing with these guys? They shouldn't of started this I know every answer crap cuz we all know they don't but it's no reason to mess with them over n over cuz it comes off as disrespect to those who do believe such as myself.. I know yall,want to laugh and challenge there answers but it comes off as disrespect..can yall please out,of respect for your other nt bros quit this??

If it doesn't seem desirable to you then ok move along cuz ppl cant give another person there answer they can only give there own personal belief

These guys are given you there beliefs not Answers so stop poking holes it's not right there from within what they believe not what they know it's strong faith into god which makes us sure not some mathematical fact..

If we lived in a world where everyone was able to have their own beliefs in a vacuum, and they didn't affect others, then I wouldn't challenge those beliefs. I'd disagree with them, sure, but I could let it go.

However, we live in a world where INNOCENT PEOPLE DIE because of their beliefs, people tell me I'M GOING TO HELL because of their beliefs, etc.

That's why I challenge you guys. It's not meant as disrespect. I just have questions for which I'm never given a good answer.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

DC , how old is too old for someone to still watch wrestling?

Anyone watching wrestling after middle school is a damn loser.

 

[bonez7]

But these guys are not giving you there answers there are no hard answers

It's all beliefs so you believe what u believe n they'll believe what they believe cuz it's disrespectful to ppl that share the basis of there beliefs but possibly not against yours..

Everyone is gods children no need to poke holes directly at someone in there face when no ones in your face questioning why you do those things...

What I'm saying is you shouldn't ask for answers cause there are only beliefs how can you poke holes in someone else's mind? It's not a mathematical fact to prove or disprove is what I'm saying..it's a pointless never ending belief battle with no hard facts

 

[360waves]

I respect anyone who takes the time to read other religious texts. If you haven't; I personally cannot take you serious because it boils down to a lack of knowledge.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Nah, they aren't victims Bonez. Stop defending them.

If they are going to go around singing their little songs about how great God is, then they deserve to get holes poked into their logic. Especially since THEY made the thread

 

[7thave btn 31stn33rd st]

My grandmother always told me "G-d isn't in the business of religion, humans however..."

 

[darthska]

[quote name="Bonez7"]This thread is disgusting..

Religion is not a debate nor sumthing to try n knock cuz you disagree

This isnt sports this us something ppl hold high in there life and take very seriously.. You ppl are low for trying to disprove someone's beliefs by poking holes at it.

Get a life.. I'm glad you ppl don't associate with religion simply cause you're hearts seem more accepting of evil than to shed a little bit of hope n faith into sumthing spiritually

Don't poke holes n argue over someone else's love of christ and say he doesn't exist and show disrespect in such disgusting ways if you don't agree move along there's no need for this thread religion isn't a debate.. It's about Love and worship of someone who gave you life

If you don't believe he gave you life go worship your parents cause you know they did also..keep it moving Lile I'm going to cuz i want no part of this..
As long as there's good thete will unfortunately b evil I guess so you're just giving an excuse for them to come out play op..forget it I know some of y'all are just discussing and not evil but religion is no discussion it's a.belief.. You either put your faith in it or don't.. If you don't believe why on earth would you try to disprove ot to some1 who does?? That isn't right worry about your beliefs not otherz

Me personally would never try n answer or even make sense of the abundant amount of unexplainable things involved nor question any of them cuz that's not my position nor job.. I just know and believe gods my creator and jesus is mysavior so I love the Lord.. No questions asked..some yall wud say it's thoughtless but that's the diffrence between me n you.. You question things while I trust in God..I don't need.the answers right at the moment I sumtimes try and make sense of them..but if I.can't that means he hasn't revealed this to me yet and there's a reason 4 this bigger than me[/quote]What's disgusting to me is when people are expected to be silent when they see people being mistreated, killed, and tortured, and there have literally been MILLIONS of people killed, mistreated, and tortured in the name of religion.

Remember that war where atheists were killing people because those people believed differently? No? No, you don't, because that has never happened.

But if I were to reference a war in the name of religion, people would wonder if I was talking about Hitler trying to create what he thought was a chosen race, the current Israel/Palestine war, the war on Iraq, the Medieval witch hunt, or the thousands of other wars over different religious beliefs.

If religion simply caused people to do their own thing, in their own homes and privately, there'd be no problem.

But the problem is that has NOT been what religion has brought to humanity.

And what it HAS brought to humanity, no, I will absolutely NOT be silent about.

You want 'us' to shut up? Encourage your religious peers to keep their entire religion... including their judgmental, violent, angry expression of those beliefs... to their self.

You mentioned sports, so I'll run w/ that. Dodgers fans think the Giants suck, and Giants fans think the Dodgers suck. Sports fans see that, and have no problem... but when a group of Dodgers fans beat a Giants fan TO DEATH, sports fans everywhere are like "WHHOOOOAAA, Dodgers fans! Calm down! :\ "

Same thing.

 

[$tatus $ymbol]

^^ right because you're omnipresent like your God & have seen every nonbelievers actions to be able to make such judgement.

You dudes are mentally children. Its seriously sad.

 

[blastercombo]

This one guys is discrediting all of what the other guys tried to explain

Even they dipped out

 

[darthska]

[quote name="WhatCanISay"]Inb4 "I am president of so and so foundation, for your information!"
da comedy[/quote] [quote name="WhatCanISay"]Stilllll waiting on those credentials, btw.[/quote]Contradictory.

"Show me your credentials... so I may mock them."

 

[blastercombo]

So if you're not here to explain them, what are you here for? So far it's to drop unfunny one liners

 

[3am scholar]

A single pair of hands at work achieves more than a billion clasped in prayer.

 

[blastercombo]

A single pair of hands at work achieves more than a billion clasped in prayer.

But then The argument would be "god did it though you".

If you didn't do the work "you didn't prepare for it".


It's lose lose

 

[bonez7]

Just lock this out of line going nowhere thread up

 

[rko2004]

This has definitely run its course.

 

[$tatus $ymbol]

Attempts to make a mockery out of nonbelievers, then cries about so called beliefs being disrespected. Seems legit.

 

[darthska]

[quote name="WhatCanISay"]What's funny is that most people who talk so much on the internet about how bad a certain religion is and how such terrible things that people of faith do and blah blah blah (you know, the usual talk), usually don't do any form of charity work, volunteer work, let others live in peace, take some action towards whatever world problem they are so passionate about, etc.

It's entertaining to say the least.
Inb4 "I am president of so and so foundation, for your information!"
da comedy[/quote]What's funny (more sad, actually) is your ignorance to your own religion you defend. You're defending a religion that contains principles of service, but you're mockingly assuming others don't serve, as if their life anything to do w/ your following (it doesn't).

You're defending a religion containing principles of humility and refusing material pleasures, but you're flaunting your material life.

And before making fun of non-religious for not living lives of peace, like I already mentioned, atheists have started zero wars, bro.

As far as credentials, I was in the church for 20+ years, was a pastor for years, and I have a degree in Advanced Biblical Studies (and one in Psychology). Is that enough credentials or nah?

 

[eazye 804]

This has definitely run its course.

this the mocking has gotten outta control

People gotta learn to respect each others beliefs, regardless if they differ