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Y'all don't put any RESPEK on it when a team wins back to back FA Cups tho
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or Community Shields...
lmao this conversation has been had by beans and prime i think...

yall can put respek on whatever yall want in the BPL im just telling you how spain is...im not getting in to that 
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Hoping RM bow out of the CdR. Too many matches to play.
no confidence in the treble?
yall look good enough for the treble imho...thats why im crossing my fingers yall get knocked today.

madrid has never won the treble and id like to keep it that way
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It's bittersweet though,I wanted to see them in the final :lol

Soton still kept a clean sheet even without Van Dijk...

Klopp's having a terrible start to 2017 so far
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Klopp shouldn't open his mouth with a grill like that





Belotti is the truth noobs
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The real problem that people don't talk about isn't promotion or relegation but that clubs don't have their own youth set ups where they can develop and keep homegrown talent. There's no incentive to develop talent when someone else can just draft a player you brought up.

This MLS draft ******** is what's really messing up the game here in the United States.

Promotion/relegation does factor into this, but discussion-wise you don't really hear about how the draft needs to be scrapped or modified.
 
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The real problem that people don't talk about isn't promotion or relegation but that clubs don't have their own youth set ups where they can develop and keep homegrown talent. There's no incentive to develop talent when someone else can just draft a player you brought up.

This MLS draft ******** is what's really messing up the game here in the United States.

Promotion/relegation does factor into this, but discussion-wise you don't really hear about how the draft needs to be scrapped or modified.
Man, I mean no offense but I don't know any other way to say it; you need to educate yourself on MLS, it's structure, and it's modern approach to youth development. 

First and foremost, every single MLS club does have its own youth set up. MLS clubs first began developing their own homegrown talent in 2008, many had already formed academies but in 2008 USSF made it a mandate.

Look up the Homegrown Player Initiative. Homegrown Player is the language the league uses to denominate players developed by MLS clubs, these players can't be drafted or signed by other American clubs. 
There's no incentive to develop talent when someone else can just draft a player you brought up.
I don't want to sound redundant but again, players developed by MLS clubs DO NOT go through the draft. These are some of the actual incentives MLS has put in place to encourage clubs to develop talent:
  • Homegrown players don't have to go through the Draft, or any of the other player allocation mechanisms
  • The club keeps 75% of the transfer fee upon sale vs. 66% for non-homegrown players (back in the day it was 75% vs. 30%) 
  • Homegrown players don't count against the salary cap (that's kind of huge in a salary cap driven league)
  • Homegrown players are protected in expansion drafts 
To say the MLS draft it's what's hurting the game in this country just shows a misunderstanding of how MLS signs developed talent and the type of player the draft currently serves. 

The 20 years ago the draft was the primary means acquiring young players. Today the draft is an auxiliary method of acquiring players, with the vast majority of talent matriculating up through the academy system.

No significant American prospect has gone through the MLS draft since Maurice Edu in 2007. Omar Salgado was a special case in 2011, he was developed by Chivas down in Mexico and had no connection to any MLS academy when he signed with MLS. 

Today the relevance of the draft as it pertains to U.S. developed players is that it basically serves as an important safety net for players who are late bloomers. Players who weren't considered top prospects at 17/18 and who's clubs declined to offer them pro contracts, players who subsequently had to go the NCAA route.

It's a very good thing that the draft is there to serve these players. Not every 18 year old prospect will be physically or psychologically ready for professional soccer at 18. Like anywhere else in the world, some players will also simply fall through the cracks. This is the primary reason why the draft still exist and it's a good thing that it does.

There are so many pressing issues, problems and ideas we could discuss when it comes to MLS youth development and what we can do to continue to improve it but so often we can't even get the basic facts right before we blast the league.
 
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The real problem that people don't talk about isn't promotion or relegation but that clubs don't have their own youth set ups where they can develop and keep homegrown talent. There's no incentive to develop talent when someone else can just draft a player you brought up.


This MLS draft ******** is what's really messing up the game here in the United States.


Promotion/relegation does factor into this, but discussion-wise you don't really hear about how the draft needs to be scrapped or modified.

Man, I mean no offense but I don't know any other way to say it; you need to educate yourself on MLS, it's structure, and it's modern approach to youth development. 

First and foremost, every single MLS club does have its own youth set up. MLS clubs first began developing their own homegrown talent in 2008, many had already formed academies but in 2008 USSF made it a mandate.

Look up the Homegrown Player Initiative. Homegrown Player is the language the league uses to denominate players developed by MLS clubs, these players can't be drafted or signed by other American clubs. 

There's no incentive to develop talent when someone else can just draft a player you brought up.


I don't want to sound redundant but again, players developed by MLS clubs DO NOT go through the draft. These are some of the actual incentives MLS has put in place to encourage clubs to develop talent:

  • Homegrown players don't have to go through the Draft, or any of the other player allocation mechanisms
  • The club keeps 75% of the transfer fee upon sale vs. 66% for non-homegrown players (back in the day it was 75% vs. 30%) 
  • Homegrown players don't count against the salary cap (that's kind of huge in a salary cap driven league)
  • Homegrown players are protected in expansion drafts 


To say the MLS draft it's what's hurting the game in this country just shows a misunderstanding of how MLS signs developed talent and the type of player the draft currently serves. 

The 20 years ago the draft was the primary means acquiring young players. Today the draft is an auxiliary method of acquiring players, with the vast majority of talent matriculating up through the academy system.

No significant American prospect has gone through the MLS draft since Maurice Edu in 2007. Omar Salgado was a special case in 2011, he was developed by Chivas down in Mexico and had no connection to any MLS academy when he signed with MLS. 

Today the relevance of the draft as it pertains to U.S. developed players is that it basically serves as an important safety net for players who are late bloomers. Players who weren't considered top prospects at 17/18 and who's clubs declined to offer them pro contracts, players who subsequently had to go the NCAA route.

It's a very good thing that the draft is there to serve these players. Not every 18 year old prospect will be physically or psychologically ready for professional soccer at 18. Like anywhere else in the world, some players will also simply fall through the cracks. This is the primary reason why the draft still exist and it's a good thing that it does.


There are so many pressing issues, problems and ideas we could discuss when it comes to MLS youth development and what we can do to continue to improve it but so often we can't even get the basic facts right before we blast the league.

Great post man learned a lot did not know this was really being pushed.
I think its fair to say though that its in its infancy stage.
 
I haven't looked into this in forever :lol so I'm wrong then.

But yea that's what I meant by modifying the draft, so that you can keep your own players.

Still don't understand then why it seems like these clubs neglect the inner city then.

There's also no need to get fired up to the point you gotta drop the not offending disclaimer. Its interesting and I appreciate the info, but I wouldn't get offended about not knowing updates on the MLS :lol. It's like if I said the WNBA needed a rule change and someone tells me they changed it a while back. It's good info and my bad, but I have no reason to get offended.

Do these clubs do enough work trying to find and develop talent in the inner city? As a New Yorker, I've never heard of the NYRB having anything in the boroughs. I.e. both scouting and a complex of fields for them to play on.
 
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I haven't looked into this in forever :lol so I'm wrong then.

But yea that's what I meant by modifying the draft, so that you can keep your own players.

Still don't understand then why it seems like these clubs neglect the inner city then.

There's also no need to get fired up to the point you gotta drop the not offending disclaimer. Its interesting and I appreciate the info, but I wouldn't get offended about not knowing updates on the MLS :lol. It's like if I said the WNBA needed a rule change and someone tells me they changed it a while back. It's good info and my bad, but I have no reason to get offended.

Do these clubs do enough work trying to find and develop talent in the inner city? As a New Yorker, I've never heard of the NYRB having anything in the boroughs. I.e. both scouting and a complex of fields for them to play on.

Yeah i plead ignorance on this for sure but if this system is indeed in place...I feel like there should be at least a few players making waves in a big league some where. Maybe the scouting and infrastructure is just bad. Because i would guess its not lack of players. Youth soccer in this country imo is huge. Bad coaching at youth levels maybe?

Growing up and playing for a national champion youth team all we knew was "national team camp" and college. Every player on my team wanted to just go play D1 soccer. So i always blamed the terrible US soccer on segmentation and bad coaching. Leaving my club team to play high school soccer was a horrible idea. Going from playing zonal marking systems with players who know how to play...to "kick it in the corner and chase it" (no lie my high school coach told me our strategy would be to get it and kick it in the corner) was basically the end of my high level soccer life.
 
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Owners who invest 100s of Mils would never allow promotion/relagation

That's really all there is to it
 
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i'll start caring when the MLS stops being dry af...

oh look giovinco might go to china
 
As a Torontonian I don't blame him after MLS robbbed him of that b2b MVP
 
fax but more importantly i don't blame his because of  $$$$$$

madrid cats...how long is carvajal out for?

danilo is our light at the end of the tunnel 
 
But will he continue to be slandered and outcasted from the Italian NT for moving to china as well?


But I guess if they throw $400k a week at you its **** the national team
 
Klopp > LVG.

Klopp - Better football, didn't have a squad like like LVG

LVG - Turrible football, stacked squad.
 
But will he continue to be slandered and outcasted from the Italian NT for moving to china as well?


But I guess if they throw $400k a week at you its **** the national team
Graziano pelle still made the team after he went to china until he got sent home for acting up.
 
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