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I'm glad places have started to get rid of Columbus day. dude was a barbarianWould be great if we could police our own but segregation kinda killed that. I mean it's good to live amongst other races but we are basically living in places where we don't have any power, we don't own **** and your rights are ignored. In all these mixed areas through out the country it looks good but if you're black you can be killed by a cop and nothing will happen.
The Black Panthers tried to police their own commuties. They were feeding and sheltering people. Running up on drug dealers. Then FBI killed 'em off or locked them up on fake charges. White racist people are never gonna just let us have our own ****. Just like in Tulsa Oklahoma. They didn't wanna be around black people. So those brothas and sistahs said aight we'll build our own businesses. Then when that area started getting real prosperous the racist came in and destroyed it. Dropped bombs and everything. In North Carolina they had black businesses and that was taking over. Racism is almost like this jealousy they have. Their mindset is seek out, kill, destroy, take what they have. **** been going on for hundreds years. Shout out to Christopher Columbus.
This townhall meeting is complete PC bs and the only thing that's coming out of it is making it seem like the police force are 100% the victims, and everyone else other than the police should be held accountable for what happens.
This townhall meeting is complete PC bs and the only thing that's coming out of it is making it seem like the police force are 100% the victims, and everyone else other than the police should be held accountable for what happens.
This townhall meeting is complete PC bs and the only thing that's coming out of it is making it seem like the police force are 100% the victims, and everyone else other than the police should be held accountable for what happens.
I had a feeling that thing was just for show. Did everybody hug and smile at the end?
This townhall meeting is complete PC bs and the only thing that's coming out of it is making it seem like the police force are 100% the victims, and everyone else other than the police should be held accountable for what happens.
They that **** was trash. Obama would have been better off making all the networks run a speech. Do it Kennedy style, condemn the shooting in Dallas in the first part and have the last couple third be about the police failing the black community. Which probably would have been a waste of time, just a smaller one
Obama still pandering to the same folks that wanted to see his birth certificate, called him muslim/communist/terrorist and think he ruined america? You'd think he'd wanna go out with a bang after all that nonsense but nope. Maybe he's preparing for that 3rd term.
1. This might not be his last termThat's what's crazy to me. He's acting like he's campainging for votes. Now is the time to speak up and stop being PC and safe. It's been time. He has the perfect opportunity to leave a legacy but nope. I used to have a ton of respect for Obama but he been looking funny these last few years. At the end of day he's a politician. He's part of the system. If he was about being honest he probably wouldn't be in this position. He's the safe one. That's how it looks. You're a black president and you've had incident after incident of racist cops killing your people ON VIDEO and you still have this one foot in, please everybody attitude.Obama still pandering to the same folks that wanted to see his birth certificate, called him muslim/communist/terrorist and think he ruined america? You'd think he'd wanna go out with a bang after all that nonsense but nope. Maybe he's preparing for that 3rd term.
If I were Obama I would all about compromise and middle ground.
Police get:
-People that murder the police instantly get hit with special charges that carry longer jail sentences. So in the rare cases that another Dallas happens, police and their supporters will get the extra "justice" they feel they deserve. I won't stop demilitarization the assault gear, but cops can buy the best military grade protection gear they want. **** we will give it to you
Black people get:
Cameras everywhere. The police are public workers, the public has every right to know how they are doing their job.
Everytime a person of color is host is instant triggers a DOJ investigation, with assistance from the NSA. Every email, phone call, text, IM made in regards by anyone working for the police department and DA office gets scrutinized to see if their is any collusion to get the police off, or if systemic racism is practiced. If the police want to claim it is all in black folks head, then the DOJ will just prove that for them.
If anything is found federal murder, conspiracy ,and civil rights charges get filed.
Since the police swear they are so clean, they have nothing to worry about. And in the rare case we get another mass cop shooter, their will be "justice"
There is your compromise
If I were Obama I would all about compromise and middle ground.
Police get:
-People that murder the police instantly get hit with special charges that carry longer jail sentences. So in the rare cases that another Dallas happens, police and their supporters will get the extra "justice" they feel they deserve. I won't stop demilitarization the assault gear, but cops can buy the best military grade protection gear they want. **** we will give it to you
Black people get:
Cameras everywhere. The police are public workers, the public has every right to know how they are doing their job.
Everytime a person of color is host is instant triggers a DOJ investigation, with assistance from the NSA. Every email, phone call, text, IM made in regards by anyone working for the police department and DA office gets scrutinized to see if their is any collusion to get the police off, or if systemic racism is practiced. If the police want to claim it is all in black folks head, then the DOJ will just prove that for them.
If anything is found federal murder, conspiracy ,and civil rights charges get filed.
Since the police swear they are so clean, they have nothing to worry about. And in the rare case we get another mass cop shooter, their will be "justice"
There is your compromise
When I read things like this, and I know its on the money, if not close to being on the money...Police already get that. No cop killer walks, ever. They effectively get life IF they're even taken alive since they will never get parole. Not to mention COs make that sentence a living hell. Justice for police that are killed is a non issue. Extra stringent laws for people who kill or assault police are already on the books in many states.If I were Obama I would all about compromise and middle ground.
Police get:
-People that murder the police instantly get hit with special charges that carry longer jail sentences. So in the rare cases that another Dallas happens, police and their supporters will get the extra "justice" they feel they deserve. I won't stop demilitarization the assault gear, but cops can buy the best military grade protection gear they want. **** we will give it to you
Black people get:
Cameras everywhere. The police are public workers, the public has every right to know how they are doing their job.
Everytime a person of color is host is instant triggers a DOJ investigation, with assistance from the NSA. Every email, phone call, text, IM made in regards by anyone working for the police department and DA office gets scrutinized to see if their is any collusion to get the police off, or if systemic racism is practiced. If the police want to claim it is all in black folks head, then the DOJ will just prove that for them.
If anything is found federal murder, conspiracy ,and civil rights charges get filed.
Since the police swear they are so clean, they have nothing to worry about. And in the rare case we get another mass cop shooter, their will be "justice"
There is your compromise
All this stuff is already recorded. Police been violating rights on camera for decades, it makes no difference in terms of trying or convicting cops apparently. You seem to think theres some vast conspiracy taking place via email and phone conversations to get cops off lol. Other cops know its career suicide to expose any wrong doing on the part of police and more importantly DA's know its career suicide to convict a cop of any wrong doing, no words need to even be said at this point. You act like some cops are threatening/coercing investigators and state attorneys to get their friends off when these things happen. And are dull enough to leave a paper trail even if they were. Its an unwritten rule. You're talking about bringing the nsa in as if they arent doing illegal **** everyday and covering it up themselves. As if this would be any different than the FBI or DOJ investigations that ALWAYS let the cops off. NSA cant just phone tap and read emails of all kinds of random cops and attorneys and everyone associated with them everytime police kill someone, you watch too much TV.
Your "compromise" makes it seem like you are completely clueless about how all this works. Literally nothing will change under those circumstances, if anything it will be worse because it will create an even stronger perception that the cops deserved to get off when they continue to do so.
If I were Obama I would all about compromise and middle ground.
Police get:
-People that murder the police instantly get hit with special charges that carry longer jail sentences. So in the rare cases that another Dallas happens, police and their supporters will get the extra "justice" they feel they deserve. I won't stop demilitarization the assault gear, but cops can buy the best military grade protection gear they want. **** we will give it to you
Black people get:
Cameras everywhere. The police are public workers, the public has every right to know how they are doing their job.
Everytime a person of color is host is instant triggers a DOJ investigation, with assistance from the NSA. Every email, phone call, text, IM made in regards by anyone working for the police department and DA office gets scrutinized to see if their is any collusion to get the police off, or if systemic racism is practiced. If the police want to claim it is all in black folks head, then the DOJ will just prove that for them.
If anything is found federal murder, conspiracy ,and civil rights charges get filed.
Since the police swear they are so clean, they have nothing to worry about. And in the rare case we get another mass cop shooter, their will be "justice"
There is your compromise
Police already get that. No cop killer walks, ever. They effectively get life IF they're even taken alive since they will never get parole. Not to mention COs make that sentence a living hell. Justice for police that are killed is a non issue. Extra stringent laws for people who kill or assault police are already on the books in many states.
All this stuff is already recorded. Police been violating rights on camera for decades, it makes no difference in terms of trying or convicting cops apparently. You seem to think theres some vast conspiracy taking place via email and phone conversations to get cops off lol. Other cops know its career suicide to expose any wrong doing on the part of police and more importantly DA's know its career suicide to convict a cop of any wrong doing, no words need to even be said at this point. You act like some cops are threatening/coercing investigators and state attorneys to get their friends off when these things happen. And are dull enough to leave a paper trail even if they were. Its an unwritten rule. You're talking about bringing the nsa in as if they arent doing illegal **** everyday and covering it up themselves. As if this would be any different than the FBI or DOJ investigations that ALWAYS let the cops off. NSA cant just phone tap and read emails of all kinds of random cops and attorneys and everyone associated with them everytime police kill someone, you watch too much TV.
Your "compromise" makes it seem like you are completely clueless about how all this works. Literally nothing will change under those circumstances, if anything it will be worse because it will create an even stronger perception that the cops deserved to get off when they continue to do so.
As far as President Obama is concerned, he needs to starting using the term "white supremacy." I understand his fear of coming off as sectarian and anti-white but I think that by criticizing white supremacy, as an organizing principle, he can tell some truth and not be seen as accusing any particular white person of wrong doing.
Dude you didn't type this to dialogue, you typed it to insult me.
I would give a detailed response expanding my points, like I give to most people, but I know you're just trying to bait me to take more swipes, we have been down this road multiple times. I said what I said for specific reasons. I know cops already get that, and I want departments to fear Ferguson Report like exposure.
But I'll pass on a detailed response, I know you don't give a **** about what I got to say. We have been down this road already.
Dude you didn't type this to dialogue, you typed it to insult me.
I would give a detailed response expanding my points, like I give to most people, but I know you're just trying to bait me to take more swipes, we have been down this road multiple times. I said what I said for specific reasons. I know cops already get that, and I want departments to fear Ferguson Report like exposure.
But I'll pass on a detailed response, I know you don't give a **** about what I got to say. We have been down this road already.
I moreso typed it to make others aware of the flaw in this line of thinking. I was under the impression you had me blocked so i really didnt expect you to read it. But speaking of being blocked, why is it you can dialouge with the worst racists and bigots on NT but for some reason you want to block me for fear of being insulted? From where im sitting you make worse insults than what i just typed on nearly a daily basis here under the guise of dialogue. Idk what it was that got under your skin so bad but let it go, it really not that serious.
Its more than just me and you here, if you really thought your "compromise" would be even remotely effective feel free to defend your position to the NT community, or not. It seemed rather short sighted to me but perhaps i misinterpreted what you envisioned.
I dont remember that thread and i dont intend on searching for it. I realize i've been condescending in the past and i apologize for any insults, im working on being better in that regard. My intention was not to bait you into a pissing contest, i simply disagreed with your take.