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THEE OFFICIAL 2019-2020 NBA OFFSEASON THREAD: VICTORY LAP
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Sonny Corinthos
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As nice as that sounds the ABA had some star players early in Kareem's career and he still only had one title without Magic
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What makes kareem's resume better than mike's
Sonny Corinthos
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Nothing , the 80's had too many stacked teams for the Bulls to win
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Lol that's why I'm asking are people basing it off resume or players they've seen? Seems like people weave in and out of using resume versus eye test when beneficial for their argument. Most of the people in here are around 30 and under, so they didn't see Kareem either.
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And Magic had no rings without Kareem.
And MJ had no rings without Scottie.
And Kobe had no rings without either Shaq or Pau.
And LeBron had no rings without other all stars playing with him.
We can play that game with anyone . . .
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Well using "eye test" to judge the greatest player of all time makes zero sense at all. That's a historical accolade. "Yeah FDR was great but in my eye test Bill Clinton was the best"
I actually have heard that argument made for LeBron though
"Yeah I understand if you look at all the facts Jordan was better but I never saw him play so I say LeBron's better." What...
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Kareem had 15 seasons of all NBA play. MJ had 11. MJ like Magic and Bird squeezed great success into a shorter time period but longevity has to matter as well. Kareem won MVP his 2nd year in the league and all 6 came within 10 seasons only 1 of them being with Magic. That's dominance.
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Kareem
Magic
Duncan
Shaq
Bron
Bird
Russell
Wilt
Kobe/Hakeem/KD
Kareem
Magic
Duncan
Shaq
Bron
Bird
Russell
Wilt
Kobe/Hakeem/KD
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Well using "eye test" to judge the greatest player of all time makes zero sense at all. That's a historical accolade. "Yeah FDR was great but in my eye test Bill Clinton was the best"
I actually have heard that argument made for LeBron though
Naw eye test def gotta play a role in rating players...mainly due to comparing em thru different eras so numbers can be skewed differently but watching on court action could help paint a better picture
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All those dudes>Magic (not sure if that was in particular order)
Sonny Corinthos
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Cute , but Kareem wasn't the best player on his team during his last handful of years
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I mean either way I think rating players purely off the numbers is dumb too. Adjusting for competition and such is important. Bill Russell's resume is better than a lot of elite big men that I wouldn't place him over based on the film I've seen of him. Rating guys purely off of numbers and accolades probably isn't the best way to do it either.Well using "eye test" to judge the greatest player of all time makes zero sense at all. That's a historical accolade. "Yeah FDR was great but in my eye test Bill Clinton was the best"
I actually have heard that argument made for LeBron though
Clearly I don't think eye test only is the way to rate guys. But how can someone who never saw Wilt Chamberlain play tell me he's better than LeBron?
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Well using "eye test" to judge the greatest player of all time makes zero sense at all. That's a historical accolade. "Yeah FDR was great but in my eye test Bill Clinton was the best"
I actually have heard that argument made for LeBron though
Yeah, I actually did get to see Kareem play, but it was only from 1986 on, at the tail end of his career. Judging his all-time place in the game just based on those years would be like judging MJ just based on the Wizard years.
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It’s in order. Magic Top 3. No debate!
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Yeah Russell is from an era that was so different. I don't even put him in these discussions but do acknowledge he was dominant
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Steph is already better than him
Kobe passed him too
The other more recent dudes I would take over him comfortably, especially LeBron, Duncan and Shaq
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Lakers byke! 
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The all time ranking debates are the the best replayed topic that happens on here.
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Kareem had the most unstoppable shot ever. I can't believe dudes are debating his worthiness as the GOAT. Even before his NBA career dude was winning literally all the time.
Love this video, that "I wasn't there to watch him" thing works to an extent but there's enough footage and data out there to form a good enough opinion.
Love this video, that "I wasn't there to watch him" thing works to an extent but there's enough footage and data out there to form a good enough opinion.
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Off of eye Test and accolades (personal in modern era)
Mike
Shaq
Magic
Duncan
Bird
Bron
Hakeem
Kobe
KD
Steph
That’s it!
Mike
Shaq
Magic
Duncan
Bird
Bron
Hakeem
Kobe
KD
Steph
That’s it!
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Imagine putting Poor Mans Bron over actual Bron
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I thought we agreed to never mention Wardell in the same sentence with the GOATPG ever again after ANOTHER choke job in the finals.
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Magic would have looked even worse if you swapped him with Steph
I thought we agreed to never mention Wardell in the same sentence with the GOATPG ever again after ANOTHER choke job in the finals.
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