See...when I see stuff like:
This ep. was as good as a BB ep.
That's just all types of wrong.
It's like....I mostly just turn the part of my brain off, that's seen...anything on HBO...Breaking Bad...the first 5 seasons of Dexter...anything really good tbh. I watch TWD the same way I watch Family Feud or Adult Swim, cuz people living in a zombie world is always gonna be interesting to me, even though this is basically the CBS version of a good show.
I agree, everything seemed so forced, unnatural, unrealistic, and predictable.
On top everything these kid actors are horrible, AMC has really diminished the quality of the show by not investing more money into it.
I really hope another zombie apocalypse TV show comes out and does well, maybe that will improve the writing for the show.
I gave up on that a long time ago. This show beat Sunday Night Football in the ratings. SUNDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL. Mad Men and Breaking couldn't beat Community's ratings for half of their runs. And I don't care that they're on location, half of Dexter happened outdoors. Most of The Americans happens in new places away from their main sets. Louie costs $17 to make and the dialogue and plots are consistently better, more sensible and thoughtful than TWD's. Justified takes place in the South...no one watches it, and every single actor on that cast is killing what TWD's actors are doing, cuz the writing, directing and casting are that much better.
There is no
good reason why the directing is so mediocre and basic almost all of the time. I mean, this last one was one of the few episodes that actually consistently tried do creative things directing and dialoguewise, but it comes and goes so much. The filters and color treatment make the show look better than it's shot. Pick any episode of Breaking Bad and I promise there is more creativity and thought put in behind the lens than any episode of TWD after the first season.
It's not a surprise that apparently this last ep's setup was from the comics. But there's no good reason why every time they do something clever with their story, it rolls out like a HS kid wrote the script.
What happened this last episode, was really interesting and bold, and you had to admire the inspiration and audacity behind what they did. But just on an artistic level...this was a step up from an episode of Passions. They did not protect the non-psycho girl's acting. And even the psycho would go from good to cringe in an instant. Cutty comes and goes, but I'll admit this was probably the best he's been. Carol is still a weak Bounty commercial actress, but this
was the best moment she's had.
But even rest of the cast...Lauren Cohan and Steve Yeun have moments, but it looks like their best work is in the past. Carl is awful. Walt Jr would make him cook his breakfast. Daryl is fine in a 'Sawyer from Lost,' don't give him too much to do and just let him look cool, kinda way. Beth and Sasha are okay. Michonne...I can't even tell, because of how horribly her character is written half the time. Jon Bernthal killed his role. Morgan had the best actor this show's seen. Laurie Holden...if you've seen her in The Shield or The Mist, you know she's a good actress, they just ruined her character with awful writing. (That Governor bs)
And Andrew Lincoln...is
technically the best actor on the show. (case in point the Lori dying episode) But when you're the
lead of a major series like this...you gotta be that guy. Throw any strong actor up against him, and you'll see the difference. Shane and Morgan both bodied him off of the screen. If they would've cast John Hawkes as The Governor, he would've bodied him. Watch Deadwood or Justified...Tim Olyphant should've been Rick. The problem is, Rick is just
a character on the show in Lincoln's hands. People care if he lives or dies, just cuz we've seen him the most, and he makes an okay lead, unlike anyone else left.
I don't know why I assumed almost everyone in here would like this show, before.

But what's weird is that there's so many different camps that have issues with it. And in a lot of ways, none of them is particularly wrong, but almost all of them just focus on ONE thing that's just too much for them, but they'll skate on everything else. It's too slow or the acting or the dialogue or where are my fav people or haha you clowns watch this or the book's better or I hate this one person, but not the other people who suck just as much.
Iono...that's different.

At this point, the show just is what it is, but anyone who kinda can't accept that this is at least consistently better than the worst of what we've seen from this show, is just a little too greedy and optimistic.