The Ultimate Soccer Thread 2012-2013 Vol. 3 Premier League, La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga etc

[tkim1343]

Is it just me or every year before the world cups there was a huge serie a match fixing/ money laundering scandal. I wonder how many owners are part of the mob

 

[Kimchi Papi]

But didn't Brooks snub us in hope of getting called up by Germany? Which is of course is another issue with a lot of these, the fact that some of these players can play for another country. Especially if there is a chance that they can play for a NT such as Germany. Did Torre start yesterday?

The lack of chemistry in that Honduras game was a scare. I do agree that Jones can be a liability. As for the quality midfield play among the youth, attacking wise it's there, Gil and etc. But defensive midfielders, is there anyone that has stood out for you guys, someone to look out for?

I think the story with Brooks was that he'd rather play for Germany. If I had the same choice, I would too. We can't offer the same training that Germany would offer & he'll get more visibility overseas then here where he's currently in Bundesliga 2 (I forget the team's name). Brooks is on the U20 German team right?

 

[dlo13]

Andres Cantor stating that LA Galaxy have offered $10.5M to Mallorca for GDS, who would be paid around $2.5M a year. Wowza.

 

[lyonbc1]

@Mastamind yeah, Tab actually said Brooks was leaning heavily toward the US when he spoke with him prior to the tourney, but then he declined a call up because he just finished his first entire pro season and needed a break..he was a big part of Hertha getting promoted to BL.1. Torre started too, he was a lot better...though he did commit the foul for the French PK it was outside the box but still he's just not up to this level's speed

EDIT: just saw Brooks got a contract extension as well thru 2017 at Hertha, so mybe he wanted to stay and try and compete for a starting spot, b/c they probably aren't gonna rely on a 20yr CB in the Bundesliga....holding out hope for us still , though Psk is right he'd pick Germany if they came calling for the full NT and who could blame him?

Excited by the Higuain and Frolani rumors too I really think this is the year for Arsenal to load up and make a serious run with United, Chelsea, and City getting new managers, though Mourinho is probably gonna right that ship

Hoping for a Larissa Riquelme sighting at this Paraguay match

 

[tkim1343]

Andres Cantor stating that LA Galaxy have offered $10.5M to Mallorca for GDS, who would be paid around $2.5M a year. Wowza.

http://m.mlssoccer.com/news/article...uce-arena-laughs-rumor-landon-donovan-calls-i

Sorry that's old news but wtf

 

[eiddyfouw]

Can someone please tell me what David Moyes has been doing all summer?

With an array of REALISTIC options like Fellaini, Thiago, Strootman literally hanging around...what on earth is this dude with his time?

 

[Kimchi Papi]

eiddyfouw -
You getting impatient huh? It sounds like there are a lot of considerations being looked at for Man U this summer (one of the most important summer transfer windows for them in a long time).

I'm seeing now that Thiago may stay at Barca & I'm not sure what to believe with rumors of Ronaldo coming back to Old Trafford.

In other news, AC Milan president Silvio Berlusconi sentenced to 7 years for using an underage prostitute. . Looks like he's also banned from any public offices in Italy too.

Wonder what'll happen with Franck Ribery & Karim Benzema?

 

[Gex the Damaja]

Can someone please tell me what David Moyes has been doing all summer?

With an array of REALISTIC options like Fellaini, Thiago, Strootman literally hanging around...what on earth is this dude with his time?

I was going to post this last week, Guy has done nothing at all.

 

[Kimchi Papi]

Watch Man U lower a boom & make jaws drop... I can just seeing it now....

 

[tkim1343]

Why can't clubs just develop players? Transfers are cool and all, but if rather see kids come up the ranks like cleverly and jones. And why did manu sign king last offseason?

 

[imasoleman18]

Watch Man U lower a boom & make jaws drop... I can just seeing it now....

yeah like buying cavani

 

[imasoleman18]

Why can't clubs just develop players?

they do but the way players are they think they are so good that they deserve to be starting over the person in the number 1 spot, i.e. paul pogba

what these youngyins fail to realize is that you may have been there a long time but youre there to develop and become that number 1, not just be given it when you become of age

 

[lyonbc1]

Great finish by Gonzalez for Paraguay, 1-0

 

[illionaire]

http://www.gettyimages.ca/Search/Search.aspx?EventId=171524827&EditorialProduct=Sport

Fanni rolling with the Azzurri. Anyone think Balo's girl out there choosin'?

 

[Kimchi Papi]

I guess we're seeing where Brek Shea's head is at... You can taken 'em out of Texas, but you can't take the Texas out of 'em... (from someone who was born in Houston, TX)....

tkim1343 -
It's the old win now mentality. Also with England, the talent level just isn't there anymore. Look at the U20 side against Iraq last weekend, they had to settle for a 2 - 2 draw... I not sure about the 2012-2013 season but prior to that the Prem was made up for 62%-65% of foreign players...

 

[mr marcus]

damn she bad 

 

[Deleted member 38182]

I was only Texan for like 9 months when I was like 4.......



And I see nothing wrong with that picture

Shotguns are the best. I actually tried firing them one handed... Did not go well

 

[jking0821]

god balo's girl is bad

 

[eiddyfouw]

eiddyfouw -
You getting impatient huh? It sounds like there are a lot of considerations being looked at for Man U this summer (one of the most important summer transfer windows for them in a long time).

I'm seeing now that Thiago may stay at Barca & I'm not sure what to believe with rumors of Ronaldo coming back to Old Trafford.

In other news, AC Milan president Silvio Berlusconi sentenced to 7 years for using an underage prostitute. . Looks like he's also banned from any public offices in Italy too.

Wonder what'll happen with Franck Ribery & Karim Benzema?

I don't see Ron coming back at all.
Thiago would be SENSATIONAL...but I'm starting to doubt it will happen.

But really, clubs are making moves, Moyes is straight chilling having private masterclasses with SAF on sundays.
Dude needs to plug the holes in the team. fast.

We can't be pulling a Wenger here, and at the end of the TW all we have to show is committing Wayne to a few more years at OT.

 

[tkim1343]

Yeah I guess I'm a little old school I'm use to seeing the same players on the same team year after year making historic rivalrys, not mercenaries for hire.

And that brek Shea pic just sums up Texas I love it

 

[Kimchi Papi]

Powerful read regarding Brazilian legend (& Barca star) Romario now a Brazilian congressman views on the WC in his own words via the following Op Ed...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jun/23/brazil-world-cup-deepen-problems-fifa

I supported Brazil's World Cup bid, but the expense is now crippling us
This mega event can only deepen Brazil's problems. The only beneficiary will be Fifa
Romário
The Guardian, Sunday 23 June 2013

Over the last week, the Confederations Cup, which is taking place in Brazil, has been sharing space in the news with frequent and timely protests on the streets, most of them with the intention of forcing the Brazilian government into a new economic direction.

As five times world champion, Brazil's love of football has long been blamed for distracting the population from its social problems. It is ironic, therefore, that it was the country's preparation to host the World Cup that has mobilised Brazilians. Raising flags with no party colour, the people on the street are crying out for an end to corruption and against the waste of public money, both of which are sadly so common in our Brazil.

These protests will strengthen our democratic culture. It is the voice from the streets, for one, that will lead to the strengthening of our judiciary. And it couldn't come at a more timely moment: with the legislation currently weak, corruption is rife – and those who steal from the public are let off the hook. As a congressman for the Brazilian Socialist party (PSB), I am comfortable being so critical of the state of the law in my country, because for a long time I have not shied away from pointing out the abuses that take place around here.

When Brazil won the bid to host the World Cup, other politicians were in charge of the country, and our political reality was different. I supported the bid because it promised to generate employment and income, promote tourism and strengthen the country's image.

Since then, Brazil has been affected by the turbulence in the world economy just like any other country. Government plans were redrafted, public investment was cut – yet the commitments signed with all-powerful Fifa stayed the same. Investment in cities hosting World Cup matches were prioritised over the people's needs. Money was channelled predominantly towards sport projects, at the expense of health, education and safety. The lack of investment in education, for example, contributed to an increase in people with no occupation, leading to more unemployment and lack of security in the big cities.

In many cities, conditions in schools are deplorable. Teachers are poorly paid and demoralised, and Brazil is now ranked second last on Pearson's education quality index, out of 40 countries. Worse: one in four students who start out in basic education leave school before they complete the last grade, according to the UN Development Programme's 2012 development report.

Brazil's public health situation is worrying, too. Those who have to rely on public hospitals often end up with their sickness aggravated by the lack of professional treatment. There have been press reports about people dying while on hospital waiting lists, without receiving even basic treatment. Who is responsible for this criminal irresponsibility?

Problems with education, health and safety were inherited by previous governments, making the country socially vulnerable, in spite of what the economy index may tell you. Brazil is now one of the 10 major world powers, but how does that matter to the people if the social loss is so evident?

Under the government of former president Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, the World Cup proposal was to have an event in which there was transparency on public spending. The opposite has occurred. An initial budget of R$25.5bn ($11.4bn) for stadiums, urban transportation, improvements in ports and airports, has risen to R$28bn, according to the sports ministry's executive secretary, Luiz Fernandes – almost three times the cost of Germany's World Cup in 2006. Why are we organising the most expensive World Cup in history, without any of the benefits to the community we were promised?

Plans to improve traffic around host cities have turned out to be chaotic, too; only three have stuck to their budgets and deadlines. Numbers like these have made the public angry and fuelled popular protests, in a bid to reverse the logic of a system that privileges money over social matters.

Meanwhile, Fifa has announced that it will make a R$4bn profit from Brazil's World Cup, tax-free. Its easy profit contrasts with the total lack of an effective legacy. President Dilma Rousseff repeats what former president Lula said, reassuring us that we'll "host the best World Cup of all time". I don't agree, because we have failed on what matters most: a legacy to make us proud. Only Fifa is profiting, and this is one more good reason to go to the streets and protest.

I never thought the World Cup would solve all of our problems, but now my fear is that this mega event will only deepen the problems we already have.

 

[tkim1343]

^^ same thing that happened to South Africa. You spend hundreds of millions, billions in infrastructure and new jobs just to be used for a month while the town next door has no running water or plumbing.

 

[tkim1343]

Wow el tri couldn't come back, pretty good ending and nice goal by Paraguay tough shot to make

 

[eiddyfouw]

^^ same thing that happened to South Africa. You spend hundreds of millions, billions in infrastructure and new jobs just to be used for a month while the town next door has no running water or plumbing.

However, the South Africa situation was different.
The effects of the world cup are still being felt everyday. They will be seen for decades to come.
Remember, recently under the previous regime there were sanctions on doing business with South Africa, the World Cup was a HUGE advertisement for investing in South Africa. And it is definitely showing now. Suddenly every few months there's a big name artist who's doing a 2-3 city tour. Hell, 2Chainz is even in Durban in about 2 weeks I think.
But from a more economic standpoint, a lot of investment has gone into South Africa since the world cup. South Africa joined BRICs. A Japanese company injected 3.2 billion dollars into the economy in buying Dimension Data, 100's of millions were poured into a paint company recently as well. Wal-Mart came and injected capital with by buying Massmart and Burger King and Hilton Hotels just arrived in SA too. It takes time to get running water or plumbing as you say to the entire nation (that was the work of Apartheid), but it'll get there.

I guess it's different for Brazil because technically, they don't really need the "advertisement" that SA needed. But if the Brazillian government can spin this right, there can be waves of investment into the country afterwards...which will affect the life of the average Brazilian...

 

[fear the ibis]

Does Moyes even have the clout yet to go out and sign players on his own will?


Don't forget United has a new President too so you have two people who are new to being in charge at a big club trying to handle negotiations/signings. It's going to take some time.