the thread about nothing...

See my response above.

I am simply saying the concept of being 100% against it sounds noble but it is disingenuous.

Agreed.

I guess its better worded that i am against the mistreatment of animals in a factory farming situation. De-beaking chickens keeping them in coupes on top of each other. Slitting pigs throats with dull knives and if it doesn't' kill them just letting them bleed out in pain...

Yes this would mean you let the animals roam free and live. That would increase the prices of meat because it would be less easily produced. But consumption should go down (IMHO) anyway.
 
one of my vegan bodybuilding friends often compares the killing of animals for food to African slaves and Or racism.


for instance, he would change a statement like yours to

“In theory, (when reminded) I don't like the idea of slaves being treated like many are via the slave trade industry.

However, I enjoy being able to Have free labor and goods provided for me regardless of the day and time.

Both things can be true and I would assume, any anti-slavery person in this thread claiming to be AGAINST the inhumane treatment of humans feels the same way.

So is a person that willingly participates in such a system REALLY against it?

My answer would be no.

That person might be against the thought/visual of slavery but actions say otherwise.”

Yes he compares slavery in the united states, to the acceptable practice of eating animals for human sustenance.

MY gut reaction is to freak out and say there is no comparison. He’s a monster, how could he think that way etc. But taking a step back and really thinking about it, I can understand his point of view, even if I don’t agree with it. From the standpoint of “animals are NO DIFFERENT than humans.” I can see where his argument is coming from.

I don’t mean to present an argument with what what you’re talking about here, just thought I’d add a POV from a strict vegan animal rights advocate.

I was ABOUT to type out something similar about Racism/Sexism, but I didn't feel like taking it THERE.

I agree with your friend though.
 
I was ABOUT to type out something similar about Racism/Sexism, but I didn't feel like taking it THERE.

I agree with your friend though.

I hear you. I didn’t wanna open up some huge debate. I find myself agreeing with him, and also recognizing that it makes me a hypocrite. Like you were saying, am I really against it if I can openly eat meat?
 
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I hear you. I didn’t wanna open up some huge debate. I find myself agreeing with him, and also recognizing that it makes me a hypocrite. Like you were saying, am I really against it if I can openly eat meat?
We are human, so by default we ARE hypocrites.

Just acknowledge your hypocrisy because you start walking around like you are this Noble creature. (Not directed to anyone in here).

This is my biggest issue with "Cancel Culture."
 
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I thought of the same comparison his friend mentioned. I feel bad about the process yet continue to support it. Sadly this applies to do many other things. Child labor that goes into our beloved Nikes (which could be compared to slavery since they are grossly underpaid). The sad truth is that there's often a dark side to most privileges. Here's a video that provides some examples and the last slide sums it up well.
 
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