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And for someone who's so selfless and undesirous of accolades, you sure do bring that up alot. You keep saying you don't talk about what you do for the community, and then you proceed to do just that. I'm confused.
And you're anonymous -- am I the only one who can see your screen name in big letters below your posts? My bad if that's the case, I thought everyone could see that.
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You start to hear things seep out like references to shoeheads as "people who don't know any better"
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In all seriousness, the best thing JB could do would be to give most of the "fans" on here a collective "see ya!" and never look back. Most of you want nothing more than to live in the past and that's sad. What's also sad to me is to see so many young people acting like such bitter old men. Like William Shatner said to the Trekkies in that classic SNL skit, "Get a life, will you people?!?"
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Just one of those things that make you go hmm.
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Frankly, they were a breath of fresh air coming from the administrator of a community made up of mostly nike pole smokers.
Amen. Cyjack, how can you even talk like Steve does this for us? You damn well know that he is doing this for the money. He makes so much cake off people nowadays. If he was doing all this for us, he would be charging reasonable prices that we can actually afford. Let's take a couple of examples: $199 for patent 1s, $199 for white/black/red 2s, $349 for Cement 3s, $449 for Mochas, $895 for Olympic 6s, and the list goes on and on. I challenge you to find one shoe that is fairly priced on ISS. Steve takes advantage of people because he knows they will pay if they want it that badly. I have no problem with that because business is business, but don't try and act like he is what's right in the game these days.Quote:
He's selling a magazine for $7.50 an issue and hawking shoes online for prices so expensive that each customer should get a kiss afterward.
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Let's see, who is it that's been criss-crossing the country this past year (on his own dime I might add) organizing, planning, coordinating, conducting and participating in FREE sneaker competitions that allow shoeheads to meet IN PERSON, share their collections, meet industry luminaries, see hot kicks and generally geek out on their mutual love of shoes?
Who's risked his financial life to bankroll a magazine all about the thing that this community cares most about and yet refused the easy money of advertising from purveyors of fakes (something no other magazine in this space seems to care enough about to avoid)?Quote:
You're here spewing nonsense about a messiah complex, now you're acting like your boss died for our sins.
Basically, dude ... two things are happening.jae oh en:
whats happening? haha can someone explain whats going on?
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This crap is ... downright pitiful.
I support the community.
No, I do.
No, he does, you do nothing.
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You're here spewing nonsense about a messiah complex, now you're acting like your boss died for our sins.
Man ... I can't get over the raw, undoctored truth in that.Quote:
You're here spewing nonsense about a messiah complex, now you're acting like your boss died for our sins.
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You're here spewing nonsense about a messiah complex, now you're acting like your boss died for our sins.
It must be difficult for Alex to read the comments on this particuliar board.Quote:
Go ahead, ask JumpmanSt. Hes been to staff meetings. Hes seen how we operate. Did you forget that by insulting NikeTalk, youve insulted something hes worked hard on, too?
Are you honestly saying that a comparison between boards is like peace and war? Wow. It seems that most of your posts are putting words into other people's mouths...to be blunt about it, it seems that you take almost everything said here as a personal attack. Very sensitive. I am just saying my observations, maybe you see it different. But to me, your behavior is usually excused because (a) you are passionate about sneakers and (b) you are an administrator. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you speak so much about respect, why do you not give it to anyone else? Your posts are very defensive and your responses contain many snide remarks. Referring to another board as the "Sour Grapes message board." Making assumptions that someone's support for someone else means that they are "saving puppies from a meat grinder" among other things.Quote:
Whats it gonna be? The olive branch or bayonet? Do you want to bury the hatchet in the ground, or bury it in my back?
One, you say that you do not speak for the the entire community, saying you are one individual, but then you refer to nearly 15,000 as having the exactly same opinion. Hmmm...and then, as said, why do you keep bringing up the issue of respect, like you deserve it for some reason? First you blindly assume that Steve saying that cyjack's post was well written means he hates you, the other admins/mods of NT, and the community as a whole. Then when Steve tries to be the bigger man and realize that this is about the sneakers, you still think he is not respecting you and therefore, you should not respect him. I'm still lost here.Quote:
If NikeTalk and its operators arent respected by Steve and ISS, why should NikeTalk continue to subsidize Steve and his business? Theres simply no logical reason for us to do so.
False. Are you now just guessing? You don't even check the board, how would you know? If you do check the board, why? Isn't it just a place for Steve to make an extra buck or two?Quote:
Case in point, I find it rare you'll see one of the staff members bash a nike shoe for fear of losing their modship or giving the company a bad rep.
Actually, last time I checked, my other username was banned because I disagreed with AirRev. Maybe I'll get banned for this one, but whatever. Better to voice an opinion than to stay silent.Quote:
On this board, we actually do allow other users to disagree with us, too.
Again, this thread is ugly. Ugly and disgusting. This is exactly why we don't allow the NT vs. ISS threads that NT embraces. They turn ugly. They plot board against board, for no good reason. They divide a once united community of sneakerheads, making it so that you are down with one clan or the other, and there is no neutral or indifferent. You either are a NT fan or an ISS fan, and there is no between. That's why it hurts to see the ISS>NT or NT>ISS thing in these threads. Heck, its even in the title of this thread now! (Which has gone awry) Is this what you want? Either you can move and be the bigger man about this, or embrace the board "rivalry" and continue the personal attacks against others. But its your decision, not mine.Quote:
Its painfully obvious that references to NikeTalk are frowned upon at the ISS community.
Sup. I still wanted an explanation why you called me racist, but whatever. By the way, your boy Hubie was banned, but keep hating if that floats your boat.Quote:
ISS mods are worse than niketalk ones. They got clicks there and one of the adminstrators there is racist. A 17 year old racist punk named jvini is an administrator. A freekin 17 year old administrator! They locked my friendly [member of both niketalk and iss] post for nothing
Look, the reason I'm responding is because you're calling me and someone I know to be a good, damn hard working person liars and claiming that we do what we do for nothing more than the almighty dollar. That's completely false and I think it's reasonable that I should feel compelled to respond to that.Quote:
You think my opinion doesnt matter, that I dont REALLY represent anyone, but youll claw tooth and nail to convince everyone within eyeshot that Im wrong just the same. Why do they need convincing?
This is what I don't understand. Because I think a position you've taken is unreasonable, I'm somehow defending Jordan? As I said a while back in a previous post, I've disagreed with you because I've disagreed with you. Could have been about adidas, New Balance, Nike, Reebok, whatever. If you came out here like jmadidas calling the T-MAC 4 a great performance shoe, I would have disagreed with you, just as I disagreed with him.Quote:
You might defend Jordan brand, but would Jordan brand defend you? Before you were under his patronage, did Steve help you out?
More power to you man, I just hope it's true.Quote:
Well keep working hard to ensure that this community remains open for all those interested in reading or participating in it.
And where exactly have I said that you're not entitled to your own opinion?Quote:
My opinions are my own, and Im entitled to them whether you like them or not.
You seem to have selective memory -- I responded to you when you accused me of being on Jordan's payroll or trying to "impress the people in Beaverton" after I disagreed with one of your many snarky comments about a Jordan product. At least be honest about that Meth.Quote:
Lets get it straight; out of nowhere you decided to attack me simply for expressing a negative opinion of a Jordan brand product and you havent let up since.
Yes, I thought then and still think now that it's inane to hate on a shoe based on a PHOTOGRAPH of a PRE-PRODUCTION shoe snapped surreptitiously by some dude somewhere. There was a time when I think you would have encouraged people to act more reasonably as well.Quote:
This, from the person who said to a group of NikeTalk members who dared dislike the design of the Melo 5.5,
Man, talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Maybe in your world calling someone else a liar isn't a personal attack, but in my world it is.Quote:
Well, you chose to attack me and Ill continue to defend myself.
Frankly, I could care less what anyone else in the industry thinks about you Meth. Here again is another example of this grandiose vision you have in your head. Do you think this is some sort of plot? Let me make it abundantly clear that it isn't -- I took issue with your statements and actions and acted accordingly. Contrary to what you seem to think, the people in the "industry" are not sitting around talking about you and trying to hatch plots to bring you down. This is coming from me to you. You and your fellow admin Bastitch are the ones who seem to want to drag others into this.Quote:
If Steve doesnt like me, if a few people in the industry dont like me, then Im sure its much easier for you to despise me as well.
chris chicago, that's almost exactly what I wrote in my review of the XIX that was published in the last issue of the magazine. Here's the direct quote:Quote:
There is nothing wrong with calling a spade a spade, or a tech flex lace cover pointless.
Do I need to accompany my critiques with snides comments in order to have them accepted as valid criticisms?Quote:
"My guess is that the Tech Flex material covering the instep was meant to provide the added midfoot support that the XIXs otherwise minimal upper lacks, but the material is stitched into place with so much slack that . And even in this it leaves something to be desired, as the slack in the Tech Flex gives the entire lace cover a rather unsightly bulge."
So I'm not allowed to love shoes any more? I'm still not getting where this "we're better than you, so you need to take our word as gospel" thing is coming from? And don't forget Jonny, that by Meth's standards, you're as evil as I am because you *gasp* received money for working in a capacity related to shoes. So I guess you're not allowed to claim a love shoes any more either.Quote:
But don't claim to have that same level of love we do, because I think your full of it.
chris chicago, how exactly is this making my departure more "accepting"? Seems like the opposite to me, which is what I expected given that this is NikeTalk, where Method Man reigns supreme.Quote:
I think it was just an excuse for cyjack to lash out and make his departure more accepting.
I couldn't agree more Dutch, and by staying out of this he's proven that he's also a much wiser man than I. ;-)Quote:
I do like to point out, that in this case, RetroKid is a class act.
JAYMATIK, I think that was a quote from Bastitch, no? And I find it ironic in that the things Meth has been saying about SC and Steve do the same -- i.e. insult something Rk worked hard on. Dude puts a lot of time into the mag, but I guess, according to Meth and JonnyBlazeNyc's logic, he's not a TRUE shoehead since he gets paid for it. I guess MJ didn't really love the game of basketball either, because he sure did get paid to play it.Quote:
Did you forget that by insulting NikeTalk, youve insulted something hes worked hard on, too?
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This is exactly why we don't allow the NT vs. ISS threads that NT embraces. They turn ugly. They plot board against board, for no good reason. They divide a once united community of sneakerheads, making it so that you are down with one clan or the other, and there is no neutral or indifferent. You either are a NT fan or an ISS fan, and there is no between. That's why it hurts to see the ISS>NT or NT>ISS thing in these threads. Heck, its even in the title of this thread now! (Which has gone awry) Is this what you want? Either you can move and be the bigger man about this, or embrace the board "rivalry" and continue the personal attacks against others. But its your decision, not mine.
You are correct on that note...it was posted in a forum that we've always said that anything goes that is appropriate, and I felt that I should stick with this instead of bending the rules. Therefore, the post has remainded...notice the third post in it says "Do we really need to start this again?????????? I would rather lock this up right now.............." posted by a mod. It is understood that there are no double standards, that if we make a rule for a forum, we'll stick by it.The post about Prof K originally was in the Lounge, but I moved it to Flamethrower after it turned into NT vs. ISS. There was decent discussion going on besides the ISS>NT stuff, but to me, that is a dead issue. People got over it there while there is still an everlasting thread here. Same with the thread you linked to - notice how no one has posted in it for almost a week and its on the second page already. Seems to me that people got their kicks in, and now its over. Also notice how its a 11 page thread, and that almost every post from page 7 on is just Hubie and The Big Angry Shoe Monster going at it. Its not even an ISS vs. NT post at this point, its two members going at it for no real reason (I don't even think anyone else really reads that thread anymore, I think almost everyone has moved on, but thats just me). By the way, Hubie was banned this afternoon not yesterday.Quote:
ISS vs. NT thread
You don't allow it?
There is one right there in double digit pages. It's not locked and no one has been warned for makin it or postin in it. It didn't even start out as a post about shoes like this one did. It is straight up an iss vs. nt post.
And that link isn't ta prof k's post which is there in the same forum and it's turned into the same thing.
So again if you don't allow these threads that "NT embraces" then why are there TWO bein posted in daily?
And for the record i have seen 3 threads in general here insultin or attackin iss and all 3 were locked up instantly by dirty or bastich with warnins handed out.
And you said you banned caoch hubie? When? he was there postin just this mornin about the evils not of NT but of any NTer who disagrees with him.
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And you said you banned caoch hubie? When? he was there postin just this mornin about the evils not of NT but of any NTer who disagrees with him.
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Also notice how its a 11 page thread, and that almost every post from page 7 on is just Hubie and The Big Angry Shoe Monster going at it.
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I've never embraced the ISS vs. NT debate which people seem to be so interested in.