The Official NBA Season Thread: NBA Cup Night

[aepps20]

Mamba Mentality or Mumbo Sauce Mentality is social media and Niketalk’s toxic discourse impacting Kobe’s Protégés?

What do you guys think of this podcast topic?

 

[Based Jesus]

As interesting as kobetalk vol. 1974567289038 is, I'm still stuck on "Clean yourself up"

 

[RustyShackleford]

The Kobe fans take it too far lol

You are taking it too far in the other direction talking like he was a glorified role player in 2000

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Rusty and I leading this Kobe thing is crazy

 

[pums]

Tatum has just never been a top 5 guy in the league to be put in that tier.

Can the celtics win a chip without a top 5 guy. Of course they still can.

 

[B Sox]

So you think Tatum is going to reach anywhere near Kobe’s legacy?

I mean there’s a lot that goes into that given we get to look at Kobe’s career completely in retrospect. And people obviously worship him. So no he won’t have THAT kind of legacy.

But do I think Tatum can win 2 FMVPs as the best player on a championship team while being all-league for like the next 7+ years, sure. Why not?

For Kobe’s age 26-28 he missed the playoffs once and got beat in the first round for the other two. Do you think that’s what will happen to Tatum trajectory-wise?

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

I was always in the camp of Boston being at the top of the no excuses list .. but now I especially can’t wait to see this play out

 

[freeze]

Tatum is regular

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

I mean there’s a lot that goes into that given we get to look at Kobe’s career completely in retrospect. And people obviously worship him. So no he won’t have THAT kind of legacy.

But do I think Tatum can win 2 FMVPs as the best player on a championship team while being all-league for like the next 7+ years, sure. Why not?

For Kobe’s age 26-28 he missed the playoffs once and got beat in the first round for the other two. Do you think that’s what will happen to Tatum trajectory-wise?

I don’t know either but you guys counting Kobe’s first three rings so lightly kind of makes that discussion moot

Kobe missed the playoffs on a not so great team but rebounded nicely , especially after getting gifted pau

Again- Tatum is on stacked teams and has been for most of his career so missing the playoffs shouldn’t be an issue nor losing in the first

 

[picasso swerve]

I wonder how IT is gonna find minutes on the Suns. Like who are they gonna sit for him? They have a solid rotation already thats pretty guard heavy (Book, Beal, Allen, O'Neal). You could move people down to the 3 but I really just dont see how IT can fit in beyond this 10 day.

 

[king j]

Tatum getting Kobe disciple hate but not Booker


Tatum > Booker

 

[DripNick]

Whatchall saying now? Your goat said this

#LeModest #JustAKidFromAkron

 

[DripNick]

Rusty and I leading this Kobe thing is crazy

He's really only doing it for Booker too

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

We’re gonna see how much free time rusty has today

 

[RustyShackleford]

Tatum getting Kobe disciple hate but not Booker


Tatum > Booker

Because Booker says constantly he doesn't like the comparison, people should stop making them, and Kobe is a legend.

Tatum does **** like this....

 

[shotsrangout]

I wonder how IT is gonna find minutes on the Suns. Like who are they gonna sit for him? They have a solid rotation already thats pretty guard heavy (Book, Beal, Allen, O'Neal). You could move people down to the 3 but I really just dont see how IT can fit in beyond this 10 day.

Who said he was gonna get minutes? He’s basically there as insurance in case anyone gets injured

 

[earldagoat]

 

[pums]

Tatum has too much high variance games. He settles for too many jump shots and 3’s. Isn’t an elite or even a great level playmaker to make up for it .

Thats what’s stopping him from getting into that top 5 tier

 

[Mark Antony]

When did it leave? What the hell are some of these kids even talking about.

 

[nick.]

why are we comparing Tatum to Kobe when he isn't even on Giannis' level

 

[MIKE LOWERY]

It still bothers me how Tatum plays. You can be a Kobe disciple, but you sell yourself short trying to emulate him.

 

[flaminhotcheeto]

Just some kids from Akron and teammates next year? Haha. But imagine if Steph was giving Lebron some props and said “that dark skin mofo”
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[getback]

Tatum has too much high variance games. He settles for too many jump shots and 3’s. Isn’t an elite or even a great level playmaker to make up for it .

Thats what’s stopping him from getting into that top 5 tier

This is reasonable criticism and is refreshing for this thread

 

[B Sox]

I don’t know either but you guys counting Kobe’s first three rings so lightly kind of makes that discussion moot

Kobe missed the playoffs on a not so great team but rebounded nicely , especially after getting gifted pau

Again- Tatum is on stacked teams and has been for most of his career so missing the playoffs shouldn’t be an issue nor losing in the first

So you don’t think it’s worth note that one guy got to play with a top 10-15 player ever in his prime during his early years, while the other got one year of a 4ft point guard and another couple with a career 2nd fiddle guy in Cryrie?

The teams you deem as stacked is literally because of Tatum himself being as good as he’s been. None of yall think Jaylen (also just now entering his prime) is like that, or that Marcus was any good.

This year’s team IS stacked. No excuses to at least make the finals.

 

[WASHED KING]

You are taking it too far in the other direction talking like he was a glorified role player in 2000

In 2000 he was.

Outside of that I called him Jaylen Brown. That's tame.