The Official NBA Season Thread: NBA Cup Night

[osh kosh bosh]

Thats where 90% of the skill of basketball lives. We don't need to dance around this.

sure but skills have a different values based on your size.

being able to do 5 dribbles and shoot a mid range jumpshot is a certain kind of skill.
being able to pivot, spin and seal off your defender for a clean hook shot is another kind of skill.


the latter is more valuable when you're tall.

 

[D StaXX]

I disagree

You’re trolling. You said KAT and Dak don’t get slander like there aren’t pages of those two getting lit up. This Timid right?

 

[Based Jesus]

Well he had a finals appearance and made an all star game which is something that only 1% of the players who ever played in the NBA can say.

Then mention him with his fellow greats, Tyrone Hill, Jamaal Magloire and Mo Williams

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Jokic despite being a much worse 3 point shooters, seems significantly more skilled to me than KAT.

If KAT is one of the most offensively gifted bigs of all time, what is Jokic?

 

[D StaXX]

Jokic despite being a much worse 3 point shooters, seems significantly more skilled to me than KAT.

If KAT is one of the most offensively gifted bigs of all time, what is Jokic?

Generational

 

[Kierris]

You’re trolling. You said KAT and Dak don’t get slander like there aren’t pages of those two getting lit up. This Timid right?

1. When they I say "Kat doesn't get slander" I addressed all the slurping his apologists do on here, for instance, how y'all keep talking about how "offensive talented" he is as if you can't say that for most players in the league.

2. Dak? Wrong thread?

3. Are you asking if I'm a timid person or are you referring to some older poster? If so, this is like the 3rd different poster y'all have accused me of being on here.

 

[Kierris]

Jokic despite being a much worse 3 point shooters, seems significantly more skilled to me than KAT.

If KAT is one of the most offensively gifted bigs of all time, what is Jokic?

Jokic, Embiid, AD are all light-years ahead of Kat but I never see NT bragging about how "offensively talented" those 3 are.

 

[B Sox]

I disagree

KAT-Goober-Russ-AD is the Mt Rushmore or NTNBA slander.

 

[antidope]

sure but skills have a different values based on your size.

being able to do 5 dribbles and shoot a mid range jumpshot is a certain kind of skill.
being able to pivot, spin and seal off your defender for a clean hook shot is another kind of skill.


the latter is more valuable when you're tall.

At a very baseline level basketball is about being able to:

• Dribble the ball
• Shoot the ball
• Pass the ball

Guards do this better than bigs. Its just what the game is.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Jokic despite being a much worse 3 point shooters, seems significantly more skilled to me than KAT.

If KAT is one of the most offensively gifted bigs of all time, what is Jokic?

Jokic is so skilled, almost as if he is a 7 foot point guard

 

[Kierris]

Then mention him with his fellow greats, Tyrone Hill, Jamaal Magloire and Mo Williams

All 3 contributed to their teams in a major way and, at least, helped their teams get to the finals. Can't say the same for Mr. Offensively talented

 

[RustyShackleford]

The Lex Steele name drop reminded me that CES and AVN overlap this year.

Tons of tech professionals gonna be in town on the company dime, swiping their corporate cards on some nastiness.

HR professionals, corporate accountants, and credit card dispute agents better start locking in.

Winter is coming

 

[pmatic]

IP Check. Methodical Management

 

[Kierris]

KAT-Goober-Russ-AD is the Mt Rushmore or NTNBA slander.

Well like I said I probably just entered this thread at the wrong time because it was a Kat slurp fest when I rejoined the thread a few pages back.

 

[D StaXX]

Jokic, Embiid, AD are all light-years ahead of Kat but I never see NT bragging about how "offensively talented" those 3 are.

What?! Yeah this definitely Timid.
We need an IP check.

 

[B Sox]

Yes, most people actually focus on Jokic’s defensive prowess when he’s discussed in here

 

[Kierris]

I have literally posted myself several dozen times in the Jordan threads and the tattoo thread but yeah do an IP check mods and shut these.dudes.up, please.

 

[ballinsam23]

I dont think any big outside of Hakeem is as skilled as Jokic. Ever.

 

[Kierris]

Austin Rivers calls out Gobert and Cat





He's soft as baby sxxx but at least he can shoot 3s right NT?

 

[osh kosh bosh]

At a very baseline level basketball is about being able to:

• Dribble the ball
• Shoot the ball
• Pass the ball

Guards do this better than bigs. Its just what the game is.

Obviously.
but there are skills that have different values depending on your size.

So there are bigs that have more "gaurd skills" but lack "big man skills" that are more valuable when you are tall.

like its cool that Karl Towns can do some guard dribble moves,
but he would be a better player if he had more big man skills.

so are you really more offensively gifted if you lack the skills most valuable to your position?

 

[Mister Meaner]

I'd rather tank two years and come back in a couple of offseasons with a bunch of cap space than deal with Julius Randle's contract.

Let alone in the second one trading a pick and Jaden Hardy for the pleasure.

Tell that to Luka & the fanbase after reaching the WCF.

Cuban don’t care about contracts.

 

[Kierris]

Obviously.
but there are skills that have different values depending on your size.

So there are bigs that have more "gaurd skills" but lack "big man skills" that are more valuable when you are tall.

like its cool that Karl Towns can do some guard dribble moves,
but he would be a better player if he had more big man skills.

so are you really more offensively gifted if you lack the skills most valuable to your position?

Who needs to be able to post up when you can dribble and shoot 3s?

 

[Kierris]

Obv a Knicks fan made this but it works for all parties. Once they find out Kemba is unplayable they’re gonna have to add 2nd rounder to NY

s/knicks - Randle to Mavs, Assets to LA | Fanspo

Variation on post by NBAMockTrades. LA gets scoring/shooting on the wing. NY dumps contracts for a expiring Russ and a pick. Dallas gets alternative playmaker for Luka.

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Does LA still need a C? I know they need shooters and they get that there.

s/general - Mavs get some pieces around Luka | Fanspo

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Send Indy another couple 2nds or protected 1st from NY if that’s needed. Them getting Hardy is a nice come up.

Deadline can’t come soon enough.

Why would the Lakers do this trade?

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Jokic is so skilled, almost as if he is a 7 foot point guard

sure but that wouldn't matter if he wasn't incredible at the big man skill stuff.

that's what took him to the MVP level.

early in his career he wasn't as good posting up similar center sized guys.
once he was dominant post up player, he became MVP caliber.


so like its cute that Jokic can run a pick and roll,
but the big man stuff is more important ultimatley.

 

[amitt5504]

Doc going to nail shake to the bench when guys get back amitt5504 ?

Unfortunately

Tobias, Melton and Shake all ballin. The ball is moving around. When Jimbo and nem come back, they gonna be back off ball in which they can all do but the team is generally better when the ball is moving.