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The Official NBA Season Thread: NBA Cup Night
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yep, these guys are ona roll
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Trust me lol only people upset are Boston and Tatum fans. Did you watch the playoffs or the Olympics? Just enjoy your ring while you can buddy
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In general I’ve never seen this much hate for a team that has won a championship. It’s like people couldn’t even process that they were gonna win
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I didn't say Kidd and GP were average, I think they are good, but Nash is a game breaker. When Kidd was the primary offensive engine he basically never had a truly elite offense. most of the time they were below league average, often well below. Usually in the 20s.
This is over multiple franchises, multiple sets of teammates,
I think it's fair to say that despite Kidd's passing, his limitations as a shooter and scorer made so you probably weren't generating elite offense.
GP was better, drove more elite offenses. But again the scale of impact is just wildly different. GP had top 5 offenses, Nash had top 5 all time league history offenses.
We are talking about the greats off all time. Literally who cares about whatever they did as ring chasing old players.
I care about at their best who was better. Not who managed to hang on. And grab a ring at the end.
Also how far they led them in the playoffs is a much smaller sample and far more contextual, Kidd and GP plays in weak conferences at the time.
The fact that Kidd was able to get to the finals in some of the weakest eastern conferences in history means very little to me. And the west was weaker in GPd era.
Defense matters, but PG defense matters but so much. It's just fundamentally an offensive position.
Yah it's a PG tho, it's just not that hard to hide a PG.
Suns were league average defense despite playing Amar'e at Center. I just don't think there's much evidence that Nash was such a huge liability.
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We've never seen a team get as much hate as the 2024 Celtics?
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I did watch all of the above. Championship and gold medal. Tremendous achievements for that kid
and I don't think I get a ring. I'll check with Wyc on that though.
Buddy.
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We've never seen a team get as much hate as the 2024 Celtics?
2020 Lakers would like a word.
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Go read comments on social media I'm sure you'll stumble upon a few to a few thousand people irrationally hating and minimizing dubs. It's not a big secret.
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This has to be a joke post
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elpablo21
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This is the healthy thread you wanted
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Oh ok, so randoms on social media
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I don't even think the hardcore Celtics fans in here agree with this.
Any Kobe or LeBron team. I'll even throw in the Warriors with KD. This Celtics team ain't seen no real hate.
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Come on man.
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Rudy Gobert in a nutshell
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This is the healthy thread you wanted
I'm an agent of chaos.
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Mans started the fight moving like Pernell Whitaker, and ended it looking like Rolly Romero
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Jayson Tatum is the first player to lose aura post championship. Bro is a meme
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He need to drop his career high next time they play the warriors. Only way to redeem himself.
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