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it’s no coincidence wemby been coming over here the past 5 years to get skill development
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How many of those guys you just listed will ever make a 1st team all NBA or ever finish even top 3 in MVP voting though? Maybe 2 on that list max. Some of those guys are honestly supporting players. We will always have depth and talent, but the cream at the top is not us. None of those guys are Bron, Curry, or KD levelMitchell
Tatum
Ant
Ja
Zion
Brunson
Booker
Bam
Fox
Paolo
Jaylen
I’m sure I’m missing guys. We are doing just fine. We’re ina space now where the guys over 32 aren’t top dogs anymore
Speaking of Jalen, finally got around to watching this. Well done. But yall talk about Haliburton's code switching, - Jalen is up there too.
i think its the offensive system which is as kobe said accidental basketballBrunson is a coaches kid. SGA is canadian. Ant/Tatum/Brown and all the other american guys are great 1v1 players but they aren't offensive hubs like SGA, Luka, or Jokic. We need more focus on fundamentals and playmaking. When's the last time we have developed an elite big man out of the states? All of our best young players are guards
Who's the best American player 27 and under? Tatum? That's a terrible number 1 to have, but by default he is the face of American hoops going forward. Him, Ant, and Ja? I still believe in Zion personally. When healthy he's clearly the best American player. Only 23
Ant, Brunson, and Tatum will be first team all NBA. Like I said, we’re in a space where we don’t have a generational (Zion is but he has to be healthy. Ant is close) guy but we on spots like 4-50. AJ dybantsa is coming.How many of those guys you just listed will ever make a 1st team all NBA or ever finish even top 3 in MVP voting though? Maybe 2 on that list max. Some of those guys are honestly supporting players. We will always have depth and talent, but the cream at the top is not us. None of those guys are Bron, Curry, or KD level
AAU is not perfect but the euro development is so overrated.
The euro player in the NBA skills are more a result of selection effect
and soccer being more popular than basketball in many European countries.
He was also born in YaoundéWas gonna say Embiid but just realized he’s 30
Bro its crazy how you mentioned AJ too lol I had no idea you was going to bring him up. That kid is special special.Ant, Brunson, and Tatum will be first team all NBA. Like I said, we’re in a space where we don’t have a generational (Zion is but he has to be healthy. Ant is close) guy but we on spots like 4-50. AJ dybantsa is coming.
Was gonna say Embiid but just realized he’s 30
Why I find it crazy when folks make it seem like he's so far high and above his peers right nowI was going to like this, but Bron never had a huge gap. Kobe, KD, Steph were right on his bumper. Jokic timing right now, is really CRAZY tho. Stars aging out. New stars TOO young. Giannis & Luka are right there with him tho.
Let’s not get crazy. Giannis especially.
i don't think its fair to compare until wemby gets a few years to solidify his gameIs Jokic THAT much better than Wemby? Don’t think the gap is that big at all
And Knowing certain histories, we can't even trust that.
for every Wemby there's a Killian Hayes
I agree with you as far as timing. Thats why 3 years ago I really thought Giannis was going to take over. Jokic and Giannis being 29 puts them in a rare spot right now. They the only elite players in they primes. All the other cats are younger and the Kobe's/Lebrons/Stephs of the world. are out they primes right now. They have a great combo of youth and experience. And most important size.I was going to like this, but Bron never had a huge gap. Kobe, KD, Steph were right on his bumper. Jokic timing right now, is really CRAZY tho. Stars aging out. New stars TOO young. Giannis & Luka are right there with him tho.
Let’s not get crazy. Giannis especially.
did kobe lebron or jordan play other sports?It’s interesting to me that, while a lot of people paint the basketball development pipeline as being better in some countries they than the US, a lot of the great international players that have come along have credited some of their all-around skills to playing sports other than basketball when they were young.
Like Joker’s water polo history impacting his passing and guys who played soccer like Nash saying it helped with basketball footwork.
There’s a lot that goes into someone becoming a great NBA player and, IMO, the system they come up in is much less important than innate talent and work ethic.
Football and soccerdid kobe lebron or jordan play other sports?
I was going to like this, but Bron never had a huge gap. Kobe, KD, Steph were right on his bumper. Jokic timing right now, is really CRAZY tho. Stars aging out. New stars TOO young. Giannis & Luka are right there with him tho.
Let’s not get crazy. Giannis especially.